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The poor Ahmadi Muslims are persecuted again ...
Jul 28th, 2014 at 9:16pm
 
"A mob in Pakistan has torched an Ahmadi Muslim minority neighbourhood, killing a woman and her two granddaughters after a sect member was accused of a blasphemous posting on Facebook".

"A recent report from a US government advisory panel said Pakistan used blasphemy laws more than any other country in the world.

It listed 14 people on death row and 19 others serving life sentences for insulting Islam".


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Reply #1 - Jul 28th, 2014 at 10:48pm
 
So, Herbie if some Ahmadis were to arrive on our shores and claim Asylum, you'd support their applications?
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Reply #2 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 1:37am
 
Arriving with papers, or sneaking in by people smuggler express?
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Reply #3 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 10:04am
 
Indeed gizmo - we must ensure those people fleeing for their lives have their papers in order!
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Reply #4 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 10:32am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 10:04am:
Indeed gizmo - we must ensure those people fleeing for their lives have their papers in order!


Damn right!

We recently had a whole crowd of 'asylum-seekers' claiming to be Afghan Hazaras who turned out to be Pakistanis instead.

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Reply #5 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 8:38pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 1:37am:
Arriving with papers, or sneaking in by people smuggler express?


Is their mode of travel important?  Surely the fact they are asking for mercy should be sufficient?  I wonder if your attitude would be the same if they were Jews fleeing persecution?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 8:42pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 10:32am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 10:04am:
Indeed gizmo - we must ensure those people fleeing for their lives have their papers in order!


Damn right!

We recently had a whole crowd of 'asylum-seekers' claiming to be Afghan Hazaras who turned out to be Pakistanis instead.



Did we?  Any links to prove this?  How would you know?  IIRC No Asylum Seeker applications have been processed since August 2013, Herbie...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - Jul 30th, 2014 at 10:26am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 1:37am:
Arriving with papers, or sneaking in by people smuggler express?


How long have you suffered from Ochophobia?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - Jul 30th, 2014 at 11:50am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28th, 2014 at 10:48pm:
if some Ahmadis were to arrive on our shores and claim Asylum, you'd support their applications?


The ahamdis are happy with separation of mosque and state, the have dropped the obligation for jihad, for this they are persecuted by mainstream Islam.

The ahmadi cannot even call themselves muslims in Pakistan, Pakistan penal code 295C says they can be jailed for outraging the religious belief of a muslim.

Abdus Salam won the first nobel prize for a muslim in science,they have removed the word muslim from his grave because he was an ahmadi.

www.persecutionofahmadis.org

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:09pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 11:50am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28th, 2014 at 10:48pm:
if some Ahmadis were to arrive on our shores and claim Asylum, you'd support their applications?


The ahamdis are happy with separation of mosque and state, the have dropped the obligation for jihad, for this they are persecuted by mainstream Islam.

The ahmadi cannot even call themselves muslims in Pakistan, Pakistan penal code 295C says they can be jailed for outraging the religious belief of a muslim.

Abdus Salam won the first nobel prize for a muslim in science,they have removed the word muslim from his grave because he was an ahmadi.

www.persecutionofahmadis.org



Sounds rather similar to how Copernicus and Galilleo were treated by the Church...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 5:50pm
 
I love the way bootlicking apologists for muslims are forced to go back hundreds of years, in order to excuse and exonerate muslim atrocities today 2014.

Copernicus died in 1543, Galilleo died in 1642.

Grovel you spineless sycophants, prostate yourselves in abject submission before your islamic masters.
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Reply #11 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:12pm
 
moses wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 5:50pm:
I love the way bootlicking apologists for muslims are forced to go back hundreds of years, in order to excuse and exonerate muslim atrocities today 2014.


Excuse me?  Moses, perhaps you'd care to point to where I have "excused and exonerated" anything?

I merely made an observation.  If you believe that constitutes "apologism" for which "excused and exonerated", then I'm sorry if it alarmed you.  Are you really so unconfident about your own religion that a mere observation about it's treatment of great thinkers some 400+ years ago worries you?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:24pm
 
Brian just happens to bring up something completely unrelated every time people criticise Muslims. Anyone who notices this obviously has some kind of problem.
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Reply #13 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:24pm:
Brian just happens to bring up something completely unrelated every time people criticise Muslims. Anyone who notices this obviously has some kind of problem.


So, who wants to impose Political Correctness on us now, FD?   What happened to your belief in what is it, that Karnal calls it?  "Freeedom"?   Roll Eyes
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Who?
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