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Re: Nation has a true leader in Abbott
Reply #45 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:54am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:48am:
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
But he is an international embarrassment , hundreds of internet videos are testament to that very fact. Anybody can spin a bit of pre-prepared rhetoric from a script whilst waving their hands around, you seem easily impressed, no wonder the three word slogans had you voting LNP September .


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They quote Tony verbatim, that's the embarrassing part.


No, embarrassing is Shorten being caught without a clue, or Albo ripping off Michael Douglas (very badly), or Rudd calling the Chinese "rat fvckers" or Gillard falling on her ample arse!


Ahh another deflector of the international embarrassment and intellectual nobody.
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Reply #46 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:00pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:48am:
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
But he is an international embarrassment , hundreds of internet videos are testament to that very fact. Anybody can spin a bit of pre-prepared rhetoric from a script whilst waving their hands around, you seem easily impressed, no wonder the three word slogans had you voting LNP September .


another child who thinks youtube is the repository of all wisdom and the source of all knowledge




They quote Tony verbatim, that's the embarrassing part.


No, embarrassing is Shorten being caught without a clue, or Albo ripping off Michael Douglas (very badly), or Rudd calling the Chinese "rat fvckers" or Gillard falling on her ample arse!



I liked John Howards bowling prowess the best, lines up for Yorker and ball goes about 6 inches from his feet , then rolls to a grinding halt about 3 ft from him. That my friend wins the comedic gold medal. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Nation has a true leader in Abbott
Reply #47 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:05pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:38am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 8:58am:
Even Plibersek has stated how impressed she is with Abbott and Bishops leadership and she was the #1 abbott mocker.  if you can get someone like her to applaud then you know you are doing well.

Australia finally has a strong leader with balls.  We haven't had one for 6 years under labor.

Pilbersek said she was impressed with their action in the UN.  Something you don't believe in.

And he has balls? What has he done that has balls? Please, I've asked you 3 times to explain.


get over it.  you have been caught out think Abbott would be a weak leader and international embarrassment.  he has turned out the complete opposite.  accept it and move on.  you can stil be free to disagree with his actions but to say he is weak and n embarrassment is stupid.

The chest beating was definitely embarrasing because it achieved absolutely zero.  UNless of course you can show us differently? No? Aw ;(


you think and write as an apologist or worse, a coward. do you ever stand up for anything or anyone?

an unarmed man stopped a tank going to Tianeman square.  When you can understand why he did that, you might understand why true leaders act the way they do.


So now Tony is like the unarmed man who stopped a tank going to Tianeman square? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
You are an idiot of the highest order.  Even in THAT example you completely show how Tony's actions did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  Unlike the unarmed man, who confronted his aggressors, the chest beating was done to Australian media without any threat. There was NO danger to him doing so, just political advantage.  There was no OUTCOME from it. 

Come on, keep going, this is fun as you're truly showing your nuttiness.


other than cowardice, you really don't seem to have a international posture.

if asked what Abbott should do you either say he should do nothing - which you would criticise or he should adopt a posture that will be utterly ineffective - which you would criticise. 

there is nothing he could possibly do that would make you happy. and because he knows there are cowards and clowns like you, he ignores your opinion and does what is RIGHT, something you will never understand.

even now you cannot differentiate between true leadership and leadership you agree with.
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Re: Nation has a true leader in Abbott
Reply #48 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:11pm
 
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:00pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:48am:
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
But he is an international embarrassment , hundreds of internet videos are testament to that very fact. Anybody can spin a bit of pre-prepared rhetoric from a script whilst waving their hands around, you seem easily impressed, no wonder the three word slogans had you voting LNP September .


another child who thinks youtube is the repository of all wisdom and the source of all knowledge




They quote Tony verbatim, that's the embarrassing part.


No, embarrassing is Shorten being caught without a clue, or Albo ripping off Michael Douglas (very badly), or Rudd calling the Chinese "rat fvckers" or Gillard falling on her ample arse!



I liked John Howards bowling prowess the best, lines up for Yorker and ball goes about 6 inches from his feet , then rolls to a grinding halt about 3 ft from him. That my friend wins the comedic gold medal. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


a man of 65 is not a good spin bowler and the point in regard to politics and leadership skill is....????

Keating probably never lowered himself to attend a cricket match nevermind  touch a cricket ball and yet do you deem him to not be a leader?
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Re: Nation has a true leader in Abbott
Reply #49 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:12pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:38am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 8:58am:
Even Plibersek has stated how impressed she is with Abbott and Bishops leadership and she was the #1 abbott mocker.  if you can get someone like her to applaud then you know you are doing well.

Australia finally has a strong leader with balls.  We haven't had one for 6 years under labor.

Pilbersek said she was impressed with their action in the UN.  Something you don't believe in.

And he has balls? What has he done that has balls? Please, I've asked you 3 times to explain.


get over it.  you have been caught out think Abbott would be a weak leader and international embarrassment.  he has turned out the complete opposite.  accept it and move on.  you can stil be free to disagree with his actions but to say he is weak and n embarrassment is stupid.

The chest beating was definitely embarrasing because it achieved absolutely zero.  UNless of course you can show us differently? No? Aw ;(


you think and write as an apologist or worse, a coward. do you ever stand up for anything or anyone?

an unarmed man stopped a tank going to Tianeman square.  When you can understand why he did that, you might understand why true leaders act the way they do.


So now Tony is like the unarmed man who stopped a tank going to Tianeman square? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
You are an idiot of the highest order.  Even in THAT example you completely show how Tony's actions did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  Unlike the unarmed man, who confronted his aggressors, the chest beating was done to Australian media without any threat. There was NO danger to him doing so, just political advantage.  There was no OUTCOME from it. 

Come on, keep going, this is fun as you're truly showing your nuttiness.


other than cowardice, you really don't seem to have a international posture.

if asked what Abbott should do you either say he should do nothing - which you would criticise or he should adopt a posture that will be utterly ineffective - which you would criticise. 

there is nothing he could possibly do that would make you happy. and because he knows there are cowards and clowns like you, he ignores your opinion and does what is RIGHT, something you will never understand.

even now you cannot differentiate between true leadership and leadership you agree with. 

actually idiot I have already stated that I thought Tony and Bishop's actions to the UN were great. THAT'S LEADERSHIP.  And I agreed with it.

But what YOU see as leadership, beating of the chest, OPERATION BRING THEM HOME slonganeering, that ISN'T leadership. That's designed for the dumb to go "Oh look how strong he is, how much balls he has."  Yet it doesn't eventuate in ANYTHING and has NO threatening outcome. So... How does it mean he has balls?

Do us all a favour and stop with the stupidity.
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Reply #50 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:13pm
 
What Tangent have you gone off on this time?
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Reply #51 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:16pm
 
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:13pm:
What Tangent have you gone off on this time Longweekend? I like your name Longweekend , bought to you courtesy of the unions, perhaps there is still hope for you.

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Reply #52 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:18pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:38am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 8:58am:
Even Plibersek has stated how impressed she is with Abbott and Bishops leadership and she was the #1 abbott mocker.  if you can get someone like her to applaud then you know you are doing well.

Australia finally has a strong leader with balls.  We haven't had one for 6 years under labor.

Pilbersek said she was impressed with their action in the UN.  Something you don't believe in.

And he has balls? What has he done that has balls? Please, I've asked you 3 times to explain.


get over it.  you have been caught out think Abbott would be a weak leader and international embarrassment.  he has turned out the complete opposite.  accept it and move on.  you can stil be free to disagree with his actions but to say he is weak and n embarrassment is stupid.

The chest beating was definitely embarrasing because it achieved absolutely zero.  UNless of course you can show us differently? No? Aw ;(


you think and write as an apologist or worse, a coward. do you ever stand up for anything or anyone?

an unarmed man stopped a tank going to Tianeman square.  When you can understand why he did that, you might understand why true leaders act the way they do.


So now Tony is like the unarmed man who stopped a tank going to Tianeman square? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
You are an idiot of the highest order.  Even in THAT example you completely show how Tony's actions did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  Unlike the unarmed man, who confronted his aggressors, the chest beating was done to Australian media without any threat. There was NO danger to him doing so, just political advantage.  There was no OUTCOME from it. 

Come on, keep going, this is fun as you're truly showing your nuttiness.


other than cowardice, you really don't seem to have a international posture.

if asked what Abbott should do you either say he should do nothing - which you would criticise or he should adopt a posture that will be utterly ineffective - which you would criticise. 

there is nothing he could possibly do that would make you happy. and because he knows there are cowards and clowns like you, he ignores your opinion and does what is RIGHT, something you will never understand.

even now you cannot differentiate between true leadership and leadership you agree with. 

actually idiot I have already stated that I thought Tony and Bishop's actions to the UN were great. THAT'S LEADERSHIP.  And I agreed with it.

But what YOU see as leadership, beating of the chest, OPERATION BRING THEM HOME slonganeering, that ISN'T leadership. That's designed for the dumb to go "Oh look how strong he is, how much balls he has."  Yet it doesn't eventuate in ANYTHING and has NO threatening outcome. So... How does it mean he has balls?

Do us all a favour and stop with the stupidity.


we have very different understanding of the word 'leadership'.  the UN resolution that you applaud has achieved absolutely nothing - as expected. While we still should have don't it, it was never going to achieve anything and nor did it.  the only things that have been successful are the ACTIONS such as sending military transport to get the bodies, sending troops and police to secure the site.  This why you liked Rudd.  Rudd would have done the UN thing and then thought his job was over after achieving absolutely nothing.  Abbott however, chose to do something concrete and substantial. I suspect Gillard might have been not all that different.

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Re: Nation has a true leader in Abbott
Reply #53 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:22pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:38am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 8:58am:
Even Plibersek has stated how impressed she is with Abbott and Bishops leadership and she was the #1 abbott mocker.  if you can get someone like her to applaud then you know you are doing well.

Australia finally has a strong leader with balls.  We haven't had one for 6 years under labor.

Pilbersek said she was impressed with their action in the UN.  Something you don't believe in.

And he has balls? What has he done that has balls? Please, I've asked you 3 times to explain.


get over it.  you have been caught out think Abbott would be a weak leader and international embarrassment.  he has turned out the complete opposite.  accept it and move on.  you can stil be free to disagree with his actions but to say he is weak and n embarrassment is stupid.

The chest beating was definitely embarrasing because it achieved absolutely zero.  UNless of course you can show us differently? No? Aw ;(


you think and write as an apologist or worse, a coward. do you ever stand up for anything or anyone?

an unarmed man stopped a tank going to Tianeman square.  When you can understand why he did that, you might understand why true leaders act the way they do.


So now Tony is like the unarmed man who stopped a tank going to Tianeman square? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
You are an idiot of the highest order.  Even in THAT example you completely show how Tony's actions did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  Unlike the unarmed man, who confronted his aggressors, the chest beating was done to Australian media without any threat. There was NO danger to him doing so, just political advantage.  There was no OUTCOME from it. 

Come on, keep going, this is fun as you're truly showing your nuttiness.


other than cowardice, you really don't seem to have a international posture.

if asked what Abbott should do you either say he should do nothing - which you would criticise or he should adopt a posture that will be utterly ineffective - which you would criticise. 

there is nothing he could possibly do that would make you happy. and because he knows there are cowards and clowns like you, he ignores your opinion and does what is RIGHT, something you will never understand.

even now you cannot differentiate between true leadership and leadership you agree with. 

actually idiot I have already stated that I thought Tony and Bishop's actions to the UN were great. THAT'S LEADERSHIP.  And I agreed with it.

But what YOU see as leadership, beating of the chest, OPERATION BRING THEM HOME slonganeering, that ISN'T leadership. That's designed for the dumb to go "Oh look how strong he is, how much balls he has."  Yet it doesn't eventuate in ANYTHING and has NO threatening outcome. So... How does it mean he has balls?

Do us all a favour and stop with the stupidity.


we have very different understanding of the word 'leadership'.  the UN resolution that you applaud has achieved absolutely nothing - as expected. While we still should have don't it, it was never going to achieve anything and nor did it.  the only things that have been successful are the ACTIONS such as sending military transport to get the bodies, sending troops and police to secure the site.  This why you liked Rudd.  Rudd would have done the UN thing and then thought his job was over after achieving absolutely nothing.  Abbott however, chose to do something concrete and substantial. I suspect Gillard might have been not all that different.



You do realise that ANY leader would send military transport to get the bodies, right? Who would you expect to get the bodies, Qantas? Fme.

And you do realise that the only reason any international security team is POSSIBLE is BECAUSE of the UN RESOLUTION which gives authority for such action to be taken.  It's a war zone, without authority NO security team would be possible, and if Tony decided to send our police into an unsafe zone WITHOUT some authority then rightfully we'd be calling for his blood.
And again, ANY leader in this account would participate with providing personnel for an INTERNATIONAL SECURITY TEAM.  That part is clear.

So again... how does he have balls? Oh yeh, he tried to call Putin and tell him off. Yeh?
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Re: Nation has a true leader in Abbott
Reply #54 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:25pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:38am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 8:58am:
Even Plibersek has stated how impressed she is with Abbott and Bishops leadership and she was the #1 abbott mocker.  if you can get someone like her to applaud then you know you are doing well.

Australia finally has a strong leader with balls.  We haven't had one for 6 years under labor.

Pilbersek said she was impressed with their action in the UN.  Something you don't believe in.

And he has balls? What has he done that has balls? Please, I've asked you 3 times to explain.


get over it.  you have been caught out think Abbott would be a weak leader and international embarrassment.  he has turned out the complete opposite.  accept it and move on.  you can stil be free to disagree with his actions but to say he is weak and n embarrassment is stupid.

The chest beating was definitely embarrasing because it achieved absolutely zero.  UNless of course you can show us differently? No? Aw ;(


you think and write as an apologist or worse, a coward. do you ever stand up for anything or anyone?

an unarmed man stopped a tank going to Tianeman square.  When you can understand why he did that, you might understand why true leaders act the way they do.


So now Tony is like the unarmed man who stopped a tank going to Tianeman square? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
You are an idiot of the highest order.  Even in THAT example you completely show how Tony's actions did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  Unlike the unarmed man, who confronted his aggressors, the chest beating was done to Australian media without any threat. There was NO danger to him doing so, just political advantage.  There was no OUTCOME from it. 

Come on, keep going, this is fun as you're truly showing your nuttiness.


other than cowardice, you really don't seem to have a international posture.

if asked what Abbott should do you either say he should do nothing - which you would criticise or he should adopt a posture that will be utterly ineffective - which you would criticise. 

there is nothing he could possibly do that would make you happy. and because he knows there are cowards and clowns like you, he ignores your opinion and does what is RIGHT, something you will never understand.

even now you cannot differentiate between true leadership and leadership you agree with. 

actually idiot I have already stated that I thought Tony and Bishop's actions to the UN were great. THAT'S LEADERSHIP.  And I agreed with it.

But what YOU see as leadership, beating of the chest, OPERATION BRING THEM HOME slonganeering, that ISN'T leadership. That's designed for the dumb to go "Oh look how strong he is, how much balls he has."  Yet it doesn't eventuate in ANYTHING and has NO threatening outcome. So... How does it mean he has balls?

Do us all a favour and stop with the stupidity.


we have very different understanding of the word 'leadership'.  the UN resolution that you applaud has achieved absolutely nothing - as expected. While we still should have don't it, it was never going to achieve anything and nor did it.  the only things that have been successful are the ACTIONS such as sending military transport to get the bodies, sending troops and police to secure the site.  This why you liked Rudd.  Rudd would have done the UN thing and then thought his job was over after achieving absolutely nothing.  Abbott however, chose to do something concrete and substantial. I suspect Gillard might have been not all that different.



You do realise that ANY leader would send military transport to get the bodies, right? Who would you expect to get the bodies, Qantas? Fme.

And you do realise that the only reason any international security team is POSSIBLE is BECAUSE of the UN RESOLUTION which gives authority for such action to be taken.  It's a war zone, without authority NO security team would be possible, and if Tony decided to send our police into an unsafe zone WITHOUT some authority then rightfully we'd be calling for his blood.
And again, ANY leader in this account would participate with providing personnel for an INTERNATIONAL SECURITY TEAM.  That part is clear.

So again... how does he have balls? Oh yeh, he tried to call Putin and tell him off. Yeh?


A) the UN resolution made no such action possible. it was little more than a call for an investigation
B) Australia is the only country sending an armed force to secure the site.  even the dutch (naturally) didn't do that
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Re: Nation has a true leader in Abbott
Reply #55 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:30pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:25pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:38am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 8:58am:
Even Plibersek has stated how impressed she is with Abbott and Bishops leadership and she was the #1 abbott mocker.  if you can get someone like her to applaud then you know you are doing well.

Australia finally has a strong leader with balls.  We haven't had one for 6 years under labor.

Pilbersek said she was impressed with their action in the UN.  Something you don't believe in.

And he has balls? What has he done that has balls? Please, I've asked you 3 times to explain.


get over it.  you have been caught out think Abbott would be a weak leader and international embarrassment.  he has turned out the complete opposite.  accept it and move on.  you can stil be free to disagree with his actions but to say he is weak and n embarrassment is stupid.

The chest beating was definitely embarrasing because it achieved absolutely zero.  UNless of course you can show us differently? No? Aw ;(


you think and write as an apologist or worse, a coward. do you ever stand up for anything or anyone?

an unarmed man stopped a tank going to Tianeman square.  When you can understand why he did that, you might understand why true leaders act the way they do.


So now Tony is like the unarmed man who stopped a tank going to Tianeman square? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
You are an idiot of the highest order.  Even in THAT example you completely show how Tony's actions did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  Unlike the unarmed man, who confronted his aggressors, the chest beating was done to Australian media without any threat. There was NO danger to him doing so, just political advantage.  There was no OUTCOME from it. 

Come on, keep going, this is fun as you're truly showing your nuttiness.


other than cowardice, you really don't seem to have a international posture.

if asked what Abbott should do you either say he should do nothing - which you would criticise or he should adopt a posture that will be utterly ineffective - which you would criticise. 

there is nothing he could possibly do that would make you happy. and because he knows there are cowards and clowns like you, he ignores your opinion and does what is RIGHT, something you will never understand.

even now you cannot differentiate between true leadership and leadership you agree with. 

actually idiot I have already stated that I thought Tony and Bishop's actions to the UN were great. THAT'S LEADERSHIP.  And I agreed with it.

But what YOU see as leadership, beating of the chest, OPERATION BRING THEM HOME slonganeering, that ISN'T leadership. That's designed for the dumb to go "Oh look how strong he is, how much balls he has."  Yet it doesn't eventuate in ANYTHING and has NO threatening outcome. So... How does it mean he has balls?

Do us all a favour and stop with the stupidity.


we have very different understanding of the word 'leadership'.  the UN resolution that you applaud has achieved absolutely nothing - as expected. While we still should have don't it, it was never going to achieve anything and nor did it.  the only things that have been successful are the ACTIONS such as sending military transport to get the bodies, sending troops and police to secure the site.  This why you liked Rudd.  Rudd would have done the UN thing and then thought his job was over after achieving absolutely nothing.  Abbott however, chose to do something concrete and substantial. I suspect Gillard might have been not all that different.



You do realise that ANY leader would send military transport to get the bodies, right? Who would you expect to get the bodies, Qantas? Fme.

And you do realise that the only reason any international security team is POSSIBLE is BECAUSE of the UN RESOLUTION which gives authority for such action to be taken.  It's a war zone, without authority NO security team would be possible, and if Tony decided to send our police into an unsafe zone WITHOUT some authority then rightfully we'd be calling for his blood.
And again, ANY leader in this account would participate with providing personnel for an INTERNATIONAL SECURITY TEAM.  That part is clear.

So again... how does he have balls? Oh yeh, he tried to call Putin and tell him off. Yeh?


A) the UN resolution made no such action possible. it was little more than a call for an investigation
B) Australia is the only country sending an armed force to secure the site.  even the dutch (naturally) didn't do that

except Tony himself said the UN resolution provides the authority needed. Fme, you're a dope.  How else do you think we can get police (AFP, not armed force) with guns into a war zone? Grin  Because Tony said so? Cheesy  Because he has balls, right?  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #56 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:40pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:30pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:25pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:12pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:50am:
[quote author=alevine link=1406280909/35#35 date=1406339174][quote author=longweekend58 link=1406280909/34#34 date=1406338687][quote author=alevine link=1406280909/33#33 date=1406338541][quote author=longweekend58 link=1406280909/28#28 date=1406329115]Even Plibersek has stated how impressed she is with Abbott and Bishops leadership and she was the #1 abbott mocker.  if you can get someone like her to applaud then you know you are doing well.

Australia finally has a strong leader with balls.  We haven't had one for 6 years under labor.

Pilbersek said she was impressed with their action in the UN.  Something you don't believe in.

And he has balls? What has he done that has balls? Please, I've asked you 3 times to explain.




other than cowardice, you really don't seem to have a international posture.

if asked what Abbott should do you either say he should do nothing - which you would criticise or he should adopt a posture that will be utterly ineffective - which you would criticise. 

there is nothing he could possibly do that would make you happy. and because he knows there are cowards and clowns like you, he ignores your opinion and does what is RIGHT, something you will never understand.

even now you cannot differentiate between true leadership and leadership you agree with. 

actually idiot I have already stated that I thought Tony and Bishop's actions to the UN were great. THAT'S LEADERSHIP.  And I agreed with it.

But what YOU see as leadership, beating of the chest, OPERATION BRING THEM HOME slonganeering, that ISN'T leadership. That's designed for the dumb to go "Oh look how strong he is, how much balls he has."  Yet it doesn't eventuate in ANYTHING and has NO threatening outcome. So... How does it mean he has balls?

Do us all a favour and stop with the stupidity.


we have very different understanding of the word 'leadership'.  the UN resolution that you applaud has achieved absolutely nothing - as expected. While we still should have don't it, it was never going to achieve anything and nor did it.  the only things that have been successful are the ACTIONS such as sending military transport to get the bodies, sending troops and police to secure the site.  This why you liked Rudd.  Rudd would have done the UN thing and then thought his job was over after achieving absolutely nothing.  Abbott however, chose to do something concrete and substantial. I suspect Gillard might have been not all that different.



You do realise that ANY leader would send military transport to get the bodies, right? Who would you expect to get the bodies, Qantas? Fme.

And you do realise that the only reason any international security team is POSSIBLE is BECAUSE of the UN RESOLUTION which gives authority for such action to be taken.  It's a war zone, without authority NO security team would be possible, and if Tony decided to send our police into an unsafe zone WITHOUT some authority then rightfully we'd be calling for his blood.
And again, ANY leader in this account would participate with providing personnel for an INTERNATIONAL SECURITY TEAM.  That part is clear.

So again... how does he have balls? Oh yeh, he tried to call Putin and tell him off. Yeh?


A) the UN resolution made no such action possible. it was little more than a call for an investigation
B) Australia is the only country sending an armed force to secure the site.  even the dutch (naturally) didn't do that

except Tony himself said the UN resolution provides the authority needed. Fme, you're a dope.  How else do you think we can get police (AFP, not armed force) with guns into a war zone? Grin  Because Tony said so? Cheesy  Because he has balls, right?  Cheesy Cheesy


the point is that you criticise everything he does no matter what, the singular exception being the UN resolution which is worthless.

do you actually have an apolitical opinion?  doesn't sound like it.  Ive been happy to concede that Gillard would have done a good job.
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Reply #57 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:45pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:40pm:
the point is that you criticise everything he does no matter what, the singular exception being the UN resolution which is worthless.

do you actually have an apolitical opinion?  doesn't sound like it.  Ive been happy to concede that Gillard would have done a good job.

I don't criticise everything he does no matter what.  I don't criticise the UN resolution (which ISN'T WORTHLESS you nong), I don't criticise that the use of the UN resolution is now resulting in an international security force.  I don't criticise getting forensic experts to start identifying the bodies.

But I do criticise the chest beating, the OPERATION BRING THEM HOME sloganeering and the constant attempts at sounding like he is in control of Putin, which we all know is utter bullcrap.  You take these non meaningful politicking actions as "he has balls."  But not really. No balls whatsoever on this account.   Unless of course you can explain how they mean he has balls, which you've failed to do now 4 times.

THe UN resolution? That he had balls. Well done to him.
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So long the LNP parade its glory in having a lying sleazy little pome runt, who so hero worships Maggie Thatcher he used Australian's money to further his worship at Cambridge University.

Then he brought her leadership in as bastion of the Australian way of life, which is now swooned over by LNP. 

Australia has no leader and the LNP are determined not to give us one.
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Reply #59 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:51pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:40pm:
the point is that you criticise everything he does no matter what, the singular exception being the UN resolution which is worthless.

do you actually have an apolitical opinion?  doesn't sound like it.  Ive been happy to concede that Gillard would have done a good job.

I don't criticise everything he does no matter what.  I don't criticise the UN resolution (which ISN'T WORTHLESS you nong), I don't criticise that the use of the UN resolution is now resulting in an international security force.  I don't criticise getting forensic experts to start identifying the bodies.

But I do criticise the chest beating, the OPERATION BRING THEM HOME sloganeering and the constant attempts at sounding like he is in control of Putin, which we all know is utter bullcrap.  You take these non meaningful politicking actions as "he has balls."  But not really. No balls whatsoever on this account.   Unless of course you can explain how they mean he has balls, which you've failed to do now 4 times.

THe UN resolution? That he had balls. Well done to him.


an 'international' security force comprise 300 Australian troops and a handful of UN inspectors.

what should he happening is Russian troops almost literally a days march away should have secured the site a week ago.
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