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Reply #30 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:28am

He cant milk the downing of this aircraft forever. The Coalition will get a boost for a week or two.

Have a bit of a scrap between the ADF and a bunch of Ivans that results in a few KIA on both sides and he might get a month to six weeks out of it.

He might get a sustained point or two if during the election campaign he trots out some MH17 crash images mixed in with a few pics of sweaty diggers in the Ukraine.

The voting public don't have great memories.

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #31 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:31am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:15am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:02am:

7% rise in liberal support.... while in Victoria it means a loss, in every other state and federally it means a win.

ROTFLMAO federally in EVERY poll Labor are flogging the coalition imagine trying to put a positive spin on a TPP of 44. Grin

watch the next one after the nations has had a couple weeks of watching a REAL leader in action. Vic libs got a 7% rise which is mammoth. if Abbott gets the same federally then he is in front by a comfortable margin.

Maybe he will call a DD then??

Oh I hope he does. you seem to ignore that the poll taken last week was taken over three days, two of which included the plane disaster, you're a liar, but we all knew that's already. Roll Eyes

the women basher will be this country's first one termer for seventy years and I cant wait to see you spin and whine when it happens. I'm interested you believe the polls all of a sudden though. Grin

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #32 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:53am

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:28am:

He cant milk the downing of this aircraft forever. The Coalition will get a boost for a week or two.

Have a bit of a scrap between the ADF and a bunch of Ivans that results in a few KIA on both sides and he might get a month to six weeks out of it.

He might get a sustained point or two if during the election campaign he trots out some MH17 crash images mixed in with a few pics of sweaty diggers in the Ukraine.

The voting public don't have great memories.

such poll boosts for situations like this are always temporary as it was for Bligh in the QLD floods. but what might be different here is that Abbott has been regarded by labor and greens and a few others as a diplomacy dud and an embarrassment on the international stage. There was no justification for it and his performance has been quite the opposite but the public image still remained. but in the MH17 issue, his superb international performance has been front and centre and unable to deny. Abbott will come out of this with a permanent boost to his reputation. His polls might rise by as much as 7% in the short term, but he is likely to keep 2-3% of that in the medium to long term.

Australia likes tough and gusty leadership and always has. This is what Abbott has shown and the image of him as being lightweight and temporary are now gone forever.

Only time will tell, but I believe Abbott will gain massively from this incident.

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #33 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:56am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:53am:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:28am:

He cant milk the downing of this aircraft forever. The Coalition will get a boost for a week or two.

Have a bit of a scrap between the ADF and a bunch of Ivans that results in a few KIA on both sides and he might get a month to six weeks out of it.

He might get a sustained point or two if during the election campaign he trots out some MH17 crash images mixed in with a few pics of sweaty diggers in the Ukraine.

The voting public don't have great memories.

such poll boosts for situations like this are always temporary as it was for Bligh in the QLD floods. but what might be different here is that Abbott has been regarded by labor and greens and a few others as a diplomacy dud and an embarrassment on the international stage. There was no justification for it and his performance has been quite the opposite but the public image still remained. but in the MH17 issue, his superb international performance has been front and centre and unable to deny. Abbott will come out of this with a permanent boost to his reputation. His polls might rise by as much as 7% in the short term, but he is likely to keep 2-3% of that in the medium to long term.

Australia likes tough and gusty leadership and always has. This is what Abbott has shown and the image of him as being lightweight and temporary are now gone forever.

Only time will tell, but I believe Abbott will gain massively from this incident.

Will somebody kindly explain to longliar belief and hope are not the same thing?

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #34 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:14am

skippy. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:56am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:53am:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:28am:

He cant milk the downing of this aircraft forever. The Coalition will get a boost for a week or two.

Have a bit of a scrap between the ADF and a bunch of Ivans that results in a few KIA on both sides and he might get a month to six weeks out of it.

He might get a sustained point or two if during the election campaign he trots out some MH17 crash images mixed in with a few pics of sweaty diggers in the Ukraine.

The voting public don't have great memories.

such poll boosts for situations like this are always temporary as it was for Bligh in the QLD floods. but what might be different here is that Abbott has been regarded by labor and greens and a few others as a diplomacy dud and an embarrassment on the international stage. There was no justification for it and his performance has been quite the opposite but the public image still remained. but in the MH17 issue, his superb international performance has been front and centre and unable to deny. Abbott will come out of this with a permanent boost to his reputation. His polls might rise by as much as 7% in the short term, but he is likely to keep 2-3% of that in the medium to long term.

Australia likes tough and gusty leadership and always has. This is what Abbott has shown and the image of him as being lightweight and temporary are now gone forever.

Only time will tell, but I believe Abbott will gain massively from this incident.

Will somebody kindly explain to longliar belief and hope are not the same thing?

Yep...when its all done and dusted and Abbott is still responsible for the 300 billion dollar hole in the budget and his toxic plans to beat up the sick, the poor and the old the masses can once again focus on his incompetence.
Unless Abbott plans on riding into power on the back of the death and misery of others he better come up with a plan B Grin

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria. Reply #35 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:20am Looking forward to election day in November. When the good people of Victoria, will boot the Napthine liberal government out.
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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #36 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:28am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:14am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:10am:

Bam wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

If Labor wins in Victoria, what difference does it make?

Labor won't sign contracts to bulldoze 150-year-old public parks to build $18,000,000,000 toll roads without a mandate or business case. Roll Eyes

would you like to show us the labor/green coalitions cost benefit analysis for the NBN? Roll Eyes

I thought the same thing. laborites demand CBAs for everything and when they want to spend $100B on a network they refuse to do one.

actually longie, that was the libs making the demands ... for the 6 yrs of labors govt. ... but suddenly they win govt and CBA's aren't so important anymore? get real ....

if you are going to lie, you should at least try not to look too stupid doing it

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria. Reply #37 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:29am Quote: Looking forward to election day in November. When the good people of Victoria, will boot the Napthine liberal government out. are they promising more dole for you then?
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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #38 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:32am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:14am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:56am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:53am:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:28am:

He cant milk the downing of this aircraft forever. The Coalition will get a boost for a week or two.

Have a bit of a scrap between the ADF and a bunch of Ivans that results in a few KIA on both sides and he might get a month to six weeks out of it.

He might get a sustained point or two if during the election campaign he trots out some MH17 crash images mixed in with a few pics of sweaty diggers in the Ukraine.

The voting public don't have great memories.

such poll boosts for situations like this are always temporary as it was for Bligh in the QLD floods. but what might be different here is that Abbott has been regarded by labor and greens and a few others as a diplomacy dud and an embarrassment on the international stage. There was no justification for it and his performance has been quite the opposite but the public image still remained. but in the MH17 issue, his superb international performance has been front and centre and unable to deny. Abbott will come out of this with a permanent boost to his reputation. His polls might rise by as much as 7% in the short term, but he is likely to keep 2-3% of that in the medium to long term.

Australia likes tough and gusty leadership and always has. This is what Abbott has shown and the image of him as being lightweight and temporary are now gone forever.

Only time will tell, but I believe Abbott will gain massively from this incident.

Will somebody kindly explain to longliar belief and hope are not the same thing?

Yep...when its all done and dusted and Abbott is still responsible for the 300 billion dollar hole in the budget and his toxic plans to beat up the sick, the poor and the old the masses can once again focus on his incompetence.
Unless Abbott plans on riding into power on the back of the death and misery of others he better come up with a plan B Grin

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #39 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:34am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:02am:

7% rise in liberal support.... while in Victoria it means a loss, in every other state and federally it means a win.

Even after it's been explained numerous times, you still do not get it.

You were conspicuously silent when Labor in Victoria jumped to a huge 59-41 lead on one poll. Then when the next poll had figures much like the previous few polls - around the 54-46 mark - you suddenly come out of the woodwork and make grandiose claims about a swing to the Liberals, and the Federal Liberals to boot?

You really need to take some remedial statistics.

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Reply #40 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:43am

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Looking forward to election day in November. When the good people of Victoria, will boot the Napthine liberal government out.

Yes, they have been rather a poor government.

How can a party that cannot even govern themselves be fit to govern the state? It was a compelling argument against Federal Labor at the 2013 election, and the same argument against the Victorian Coalition is equally compelling now.

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Reply #41 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:44am

Bam wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:34am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:02am:

7% rise in liberal support.... while in Victoria it means a loss, in every other state and federally it means a win.

Even after it's been explained numerous times, you still do not get it.

You were conspicuously silent when Labor in Victoria jumped to a huge 59-41 lead on one poll. Then when the next poll had figures much like the previous few polls - around the 54-46 mark - you suddenly come out of the woodwork and make grandiose claims about a swing to the Liberals, and the Federal Liberals to boot?

You really need to take some remedial statistics.

look dimwit. the libs just picked up a massive 7% rise in support. don't tell me it was anything the Vic Libs have done. so what was it then??? oh yeah.. MH17 and Tony Abbott...

get over it. I know as well as you do that such poll boosts are transitory and in VIC it will all go ina month or so. but federally, Abbott will retain some of this poll advantage because he has demonstrated without doubt his credentials as a strong leader.

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #42 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:46am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:44am:

Bam wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:34am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:02am:

7% rise in liberal support.... while in Victoria it means a loss, in every other state and federally it means a win.

Even after it's been explained numerous times, you still do not get it.

You were conspicuously silent when Labor in Victoria jumped to a huge 59-41 lead on one poll. Then when the next poll had figures much like the previous few polls - around the 54-46 mark - you suddenly come out of the woodwork and make grandiose claims about a swing to the Liberals, and the Federal Liberals to boot?

You really need to take some remedial statistics.

look dimwit. the libs just picked up a massive 7% rise in support. don't tell me it was anything the Vic Libs have done. so what was it then??? oh yeah.. MH17 and Tony Abbott...

get over it. I know as well as you do that such poll boosts are transitory and in VIC it will all go ina month or so. but federally, Abbott will retain some of this poll advantage because he has demonstrated without doubt his credentials as a strong leader.

he just gets funnier and funnier

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria. Reply #44 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 12:41pm the point, rogue-poll buzz, is that the liberal support rose dramatically without obvious reason. unless you consider the abbott factor.
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