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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #15 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:07pm

Bam wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 8:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:21pm:

That is a very substantial and unexpected poll shift which aligns to expectations of Libs improving due to the MH17 incident.

The next federal opinion polls may show the same kind of movement and given Abbott back the lead.

It will be interesting to see how obstructionist labor and PUP will be when a DD is back on the agenda because Abbott would clearly win!

Your understanding of opinion polls is zero. Your post confirms it. You seem to inhabit a world where the margin of error does not exist.

The "substantial" poll shift was coming off a high base because the last poll was somewhat skewed towards Labor. In a poll climate where the typical Victorian poll is 54-46, the 59-41 result of the previous Nielsen poll is clearly an outlier. Comparisons with outliers are largely meaningless.

Also, as a further demonstration of your total lack of ability to grasp the facts, you're making up rubbish about this poll being able to be extrapolated to Federal voting intention for the country as a whole. Really? The sample size for the rest of the country in this poll is zero and the poll respondents were NOT asked questions on Federal voting intention, therefore your extrapolation is of absolutely no value.

It doesn't change the fact that Andrews is a little union labor liar and will not service the interest of Vic .

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Reply #17 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:16pm

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 8:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:21pm:

That is a very substantial and unexpected poll shift which aligns to expectations of Libs improving due to the MH17 incident.

The next federal opinion polls may show the same kind of movement and given Abbott back the lead.

It will be interesting to see how obstructionist labor and PUP will be when a DD is back on the agenda because Abbott would clearly win!

Your understanding of opinion polls is zero. Your post confirms it. You seem to inhabit a world where the margin of error does not exist.

The "substantial" poll shift was coming off a high base because the last poll was somewhat skewed towards Labor. In a poll climate where the typical Victorian poll is 54-46, the 59-41 result of the previous Nielsen poll is clearly an outlier. Comparisons with outliers are largely meaningless.

Also, as a further demonstration of your total lack of ability to grasp the facts, you're making up rubbish about this poll being able to be extrapolated to Federal voting intention for the country as a whole. Really? The sample size for the rest of the country in this poll is zero and the poll respondents were NOT asked questions on Federal voting intention, therefore your extrapolation is of absolutely no value.

It doesn't change the fact that Andrews is a little union labor liar and will not service the interest of Vic .

He will do a much better job than the Liberal party clowns who are currently in government. They can't even govern themselves. How can they be fit to govern a state?

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #18 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:21pm

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

Dennis is doing a fine job in Victoria of fixing a labor mess.

NO Labor mess. Labor was in office from 1999 to 2010. Budget deficits - zero. Labor delivered Budget surpluses in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 - eleven years in government, eleven surpluses. Baillieu/Napthine brought down deficits in 2011, 2012 and 2013. The only mess that Denis (if you're going to praise him, at least know enough about Victorian politics to spell his name right) is cleaning up is his own party's mismanagement.

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #19 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:33pm

Bam wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

Dennis is doing a fine job in Victoria of fixing a labor mess.

NO Labor mess. Labor was in office from 1999 to 2010. Budget deficits - zero. Labor delivered Budget surpluses in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 - eleven years in government, eleven surpluses. Baillieu/Napthine brought down deficits in 2011, 2012 and 2013. The only mess that Denis (if you're going to praise him, at least know enough about Victorian politics to spell his name right) is cleaning up is his own party's mismanagement.

Lol you must be on the payroll.

What about the deal plant?

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #20 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:54pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

If Labor wins in Victoria, what difference does it make?
It's traditionally a Labor-voting state...

Accept that Victoria has a Coalition Government presently, and many in the past including the Kennett and Bolte Governments.

If anything, the electorate has become more conservative with the rise of fundamentalist fanatical anti-abortion evangelical mega-churches establishing themselves in the southeast of the capital. Geoff Shaw, a prime example, was even elected MP in Frankston - a traditional working-class Labor stronghold.

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #21 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 10:21pm

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

If Labor wins in Victoria, what difference does it make?
It's traditionally a Labor-voting state...

Accept that Victoria has a Coalition Government presently, and many in the past including the Kennett and Bolte Governments.

If anything, the electorate has become more conservative with the rise of fundamentalist fanatical anti-abortion evangelical mega-churches establishing themselves in the southeast of the capital. Geoff Shaw, a prime example, was even elected MP in Frankston - a traditional working-class Labor stronghold.

With the loss of manufacturing comes the loss of labor.
They should of look after it and there members.

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Reply #22 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 11:24pm

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 10:21pm:

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

If Labor wins in Victoria, what difference does it make?
It's traditionally a Labor-voting state...

Accept that Victoria has a Coalition Government presently, and many in the past including the Kennett and Bolte Governments.

If anything, the electorate has become more conservative with the rise of fundamentalist fanatical anti-abortion evangelical mega-churches establishing themselves in the southeast of the capital. Geoff Shaw, a prime example, was even elected MP in Frankston - a traditional working-class Labor stronghold.

With the loss of manufacturing comes the loss of labor.
They should of look after it and there members.

so thats why the libs are determined to destroy manufacturing in Australia !

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #23 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 11:33pm

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:33pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

Dennis is doing a fine job in Victoria of fixing a labor mess.

NO Labor mess. Labor was in office from 1999 to 2010. Budget deficits - zero. Labor delivered Budget surpluses in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 - eleven years in government, eleven surpluses. Baillieu/Napthine brought down deficits in 2011, 2012 and 2013. The only mess that Denis (if you're going to praise him, at least know enough about Victorian politics to spell his name right) is cleaning up is his own party's mismanagement.

Lol you must be on the payroll.

Speak for yourself, Liberal party apparatchik. You're the one parroting Liberal party propaganda.

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What about the deal plant?

Is that what Liberal party MPs smoke behind the parliament building on Spring St?

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Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria.
Reply #24 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 11:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 10:21pm:

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

If Labor wins in Victoria, what difference does it make?
It's traditionally a Labor-voting state...

Accept that Victoria has a Coalition Government presently, and many in the past including the Kennett and Bolte Governments.

If anything, the electorate has become more conservative with the rise of fundamentalist fanatical anti-abortion evangelical mega-churches establishing themselves in the southeast of the capital. Geoff Shaw, a prime example, was even elected MP in Frankston - a traditional working-class Labor stronghold.

Manufacturing has declined faster under labor than anyone.

Fact.

With the loss of manufacturing comes the loss of labor.
They should of look after it and there members.

so thats why the libs are determined to destroy manufacturing in Australia !

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Reply #26 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:10am

Bam wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

If Labor wins in Victoria, what difference does it make?

Labor won't sign contracts to bulldoze 150-year-old public parks to build $18,000,000,000 toll roads without a mandate or business case. Roll Eyes

would you like to show us the labor/green coalitions cost benefit analysis for the NBN? Roll Eyes

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Big poll slump for Labor in Victoria. Reply #27 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:12am longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:02am: 7% rise in liberal support.... while in Victoria it means a loss, in every other state and federally it means a win. ROTFLMAO federally in EVERY poll Labor are flogging the coalition imagine trying to put a positive spin on a TPP of 44.
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Reply #28 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:14am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:10am:

Bam wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

If Labor wins in Victoria, what difference does it make?

Labor won't sign contracts to bulldoze 150-year-old public parks to build $18,000,000,000 toll roads without a mandate or business case. Roll Eyes

would you like to show us the labor/green coalitions cost benefit analysis for the NBN? Roll Eyes

I thought the same thing. laborites demand CBAs for everything and when they want to spend $100B on a network they refuse to do one.

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Reply #29 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:15am

skippy. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:12am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:02am:

7% rise in liberal support.... while in Victoria it means a loss, in every other state and federally it means a win.

ROTFLMAO federally in EVERY poll Labor are flogging the coalition imagine trying to put a positive spin on a TPP of 44. Grin

watch the next one after the nations has had a couple weeks of watching a REAL leader in action. Vic libs got a 7% rise which is mammoth. if Abbott gets the same federally then he is in front by a comfortable margin.

Maybe he will call a DD then??

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