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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 30204 Gender:	Re: Abbott is a grub Reply #45 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm: Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!! Been waiting for someone to point that out!
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Reply #47 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 11:20pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

I would also like to point out the previous government cut funding to sport and left the decision of funding up to the ASC.....It is the ASC that decided disabled sports did not deserve this funding......Abbott has been criticised for his response that failed to address the issues raised in a letter from a constituent.....There are far more cuts to disability support than just sport that shows the most venerable are being ignored by both major parties whilst those whom are better are off are being thrown money to have children and maintain their lifestyle.....This sucks!!!

Angry

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Re: Abbott is a grub
Reply #48 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

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Reply #49 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

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Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax

This is a dishonest statement.

No Labor were not going to scrap the fixed carbon price - they were going to replace it with a CTS, they have offered to still support this change if the Libs are interested.

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Re: Abbott is a grub
Reply #50 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:14pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

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Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax

This is a dishonest statement.

No Labor were not going to scrap the fixed carbon price - they were going to replace it with a CTS, they have offered to still support this change if the Libs are interested.

Labour Carbon Tax ceased 1st July 2015.

LNP made a big song and dance in the hope of sneaking in their ETS! May have already done so!

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Re: Abbott is a grub
Reply #51 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:19pm

DaS Energy wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

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Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax

This is a dishonest statement.

No Labor were not going to scrap the fixed carbon price - they were going to replace it with a CTS, they have offered to still support this change if the Libs are interested.

Labour Carbon Tax ceased 1st July 2015.

LNP made a big song and dance in the hope of sneaking in their ETS! May have already done so!

you really are a clown. the carbon tax is already GONE and there is no ETS. Period.

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Re: Abbott is a grub
Reply #52 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

Quote:

Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax

This is a dishonest statement.

No Labor were not going to scrap the fixed carbon price - they were going to replace it with a CTS, they have offered to still support this change if the Libs are interested.

So there's no use calling me a liar then posting I'm right... it doesn't make sense. Cheesy

There is no use trying to be disingenuous by calling the carbon tax a carbon price when we all know what it is... a price by any other name just like an ETS.
They were going to scrap the TAX
Just ask KRuddy.
Let them submit a private members bill after it's scrapped no one is stopping them if they want an ETS.
But don't YOU LIE or PRETEND what they were doing is NOT exactly what I said it was. Roll Eyes

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Re: Abbott is a grub
Reply #53 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:54pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

let them lead? Grin

labor was going to scrap the carbon tax to be replaced with the ETS .. why do you fiddle with the facts? they at no stage said they would simply get rid of the carbon tax ...it was always to be rplaced with the ets ...

Besides, I didn't see you make those claims when Abbott did everything possible to hinder labor. Good to see you remain unbiased Mr Goose Cheesy

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Reply #54 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:54pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

Quote:

Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax

This is a dishonest statement.

No Labor were not going to scrap the fixed carbon price - they were going to replace it with a CTS, they have offered to still support this change if the Libs are interested.

So there's no use calling me a liar then posting I'm right... it doesn't make sense. Cheesy

There is no use trying to be disingenuous by calling the carbon tax a carbon price when we all know what it is... a price by any other name just like an ETS.
They were going to scrap the TAX
Just ask KRuddy.
Let them submit a private members bill after it's scrapped no one is stopping them if they want an ETS.
But don't YOU LIE or PRETEND what they were doing is NOT exactly what I said it was.

Someone else said it before you copied the remark and it is just not true. Labor had committed to a package and not to just remove the price on carbon - there was a second part to the arrangement, it was never a plan for one without the other. Labor never committed to support half of the package. Joe was dishonest to suggest the commitment was ever there.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Abbott is a grub Reply #55 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 7:00pm surely you're not suggesting Gredel Goose is a liar DNA? I won't hear such talk ... not Grendel ... he's unbiased you know!
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Re: Abbott is a grub
Reply #56 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 7:13pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

Quote:

Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax

This is a dishonest statement.

No Labor were not going to scrap the fixed carbon price - they were going to replace it with a CTS, they have offered to still support this change if the Libs are interested.

So there's no use calling me a liar then posting I'm right... it doesn't make sense. Cheesy

There is no use trying to be disingenuous by calling the carbon tax a carbon price when we all know what it is... a price by any other name just like an ETS.
They were going to scrap the TAX
Just ask KRuddy.
Let them submit a private members bill after it's scrapped no one is stopping them if they want an ETS.
But don't YOU LIE or PRETEND what they were doing is NOT exactly what I said it was. Roll Eyes

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re is no use trying to be disingenuous by calling the carbon tax a carbon price

The Liberals introduced a bill to remove the carbon price mechanism - they have not introduced legislation which has anything to do with carbon tax. I see no reason why I should not refer to the policy by using the actual real name of the policy.

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Reply #57 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 7:17pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

So there's no use calling me a liar then posting I'm right... it doesn't make sense. Cheesy

There is no use trying to be disingenuous by calling the carbon tax a carbon price when we all know what it is... a price by any other name just like an ETS.
They were going to scrap the TAX
Just ask KRuddy.
Let them submit a private members bill after it's scrapped no one is stopping them if they want an ETS.
But don't YOU LIE or PRETEND what they were doing is NOT exactly what I said it was.

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Let them submit a private members bill after it's scrapped no one is stopping them if they want an ETS

Why would they be so stupid? Support a change that they don't support and then put up legislation which could not get up.

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But don't YOU LIE or PRETEND what they were doing is NOT exactly what I said it was.

It was always very different from what Joe said and you keep repeating.

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Reply #58 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 7:52pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

Quote:

Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax

This is a dishonest statement.

No Labor were not going to scrap the fixed carbon price - they were going to replace it with a CTS, they have offered to still support this change if the Libs are interested.

So there's no use calling me a liar then posting I'm right... it doesn't make sense. Cheesy

There is no use trying to be disingenuous by calling the carbon tax a carbon price when we all know what it is... a price by any other name just like an ETS.
They were going to scrap the TAX
Just ask KRuddy.
Let them submit a private members bill after it's scrapped no one is stopping them if they want an ETS.
But don't YOU LIE or PRETEND what they were doing is NOT exactly what I said it was. Roll Eyes

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re is no use trying to be disingenuous by calling the carbon tax a carbon price

The Liberals introduced a bill to remove the carbon price mechanism - they have not introduced legislation which has anything to do with carbon tax. I see no reason why I should not refer to the policy by using the actual real name of the policy.

mainly because you just want to be a d1ck. even Gillard called it the carbon tax.

get over it. you lost.

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Re: Abbott is a grub
Reply #59 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:11pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:52pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Just so you know the funding was cut by the previous Government!!!

Angry

Been waiting for someone to point that out!

Abbotts been at the helm for 10 months now .... why is he PM if labor is still responsible for everything?

Perhaps YOU should ask the GALP why they won't let the elected government govern?
Labor was going to scrap the CO2 Tax, yet kept voting against it.... will the real Dr No please stand up. Cheesy

let them lead? Grin

labor was going to scrap the carbon tax to be replaced with the ETS .. why do you fiddle with the facts? they at no stage said they would simply get rid of the carbon tax ...it was always to be rplaced with the ets ...

Besides, I didn't see you make those claims when Abbott did everything possible to hinder labor. Good to see you remain unbiased Mr Goose Cheesy

Oh dear first one mron then the other.

Nothing I said was incorrect.
Create strawmen all you like ask questions about stuff I never said.
You may lie to yourself to satisfy your bias and denial, just don't expect everyone who reads your crap to believe you.
You have no credibility trollboy.
As for Abbott in opposition it is a lie a shameful slab or propaganda that he was Dr No etc. The vast majority of Labor Legislation was let through without amendment and with bipartisan support. 75% I believe Julia said at one stage.
YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY. Cheesy

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