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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #15 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:26pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:01pm:

now we wait for the cowardly lefties to criticise this as well.

I notice you've begun questioning people's ........what courage?

Courage is required to voice a differing opinion to the majority, not blindly follow & clap along.

And as has been pointed out to you in numerous other threads it's about your hypocrisy, now you want to quote Clinton, last week you would have poured scorn on the man because he womanises.

Last week the UN was.... well its been covered & yes you still say its a waste in a roundabout way but gone is the inflection, the contempt, now its just a shrug of the shoulders.

And frankly until this tradgedy you were MIA, I appriecate business ebbs & flows but not a post for months(the bad/hard months) yet now your here.

Some might say "Fairweather" Wink

with a post count higher than anyone else on here I think 'fairweather' is a rather ludicrous assessment. taking time off from here and concentrating on business would make a lot of sense, wouldn't you think?

inflection? contempt? nothing has changed one iota about my opinion of the UN. Do I really need to reiterate every time what a worthless, pointless waste of time money and effort the UN is?? The Australian resolution at the UNSC was as worthless and pointless as every other one it has ever made.

having a different opinion isn't the definition of courage. 'Light' has a different opinion on virtually every topic and he is merely insane. You can share the majority opinion and be courageous while being a small minority and a fool. or vice verse.

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up. It is when you stand up to be counted for those lying in bits in a field on the other side of the world, their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so. That is true cowardice and we have seen that in spades here over the past few days.

so I expect you to become a vicious critique of the US, France, Britain and Israel. Otherwise you're a man with no courage.

I will take notice of your words when you demonstrate you are a man of principle and courage and post likewise on here. You could start by defending our people, our country and eliminate politics from things like this. Until then I will not be lectured to by the likes of you.

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #16 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:01pm:

now we wait for the cowardly lefties to criticise this as well.

I notice you've begun questioning people's ........what courage?

Courage is required to voice a differing opinion to the majority, not blindly follow & clap along.

And as has been pointed out to you in numerous other threads it's about your hypocrisy, now you want to quote Clinton, last week you would have poured scorn on the man because he womanises.

Last week the UN was.... well its been covered & yes you still say its a waste in a roundabout way but gone is the inflection, the contempt, now its just a shrug of the shoulders.

And frankly until this tradgedy you were MIA, I appriecate business ebbs & flows but not a post for months(the bad/hard months) yet now your here.

Some might say "Fairweather" Wink

with a post count higher than anyone else on here I think 'fairweather' is a rather ludicrous assessment. taking time off from here and concentrating on business would make a lot of sense, wouldn't you think?

inflection? contempt? nothing has changed one iota about my opinion of the UN. Do I really need to reiterate every time what a worthless, pointless waste of time money and effort the UN is?? The Australian resolution at the UNSC was as worthless and pointless as every other one it has ever made.

having a different opinion isn't the definition of courage. 'Light' has a different opinion on virtually every topic and he is merely insane. You can share the majority opinion and be courageous while being a small minority and a fool. or vice verse.

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up. It is when you stand up to be counted for those lying in bits in a field on the other side of the world, their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so. That is true cowardice and we have seen that in spades here over the past few days.

so I expect you to become a vicious critique of the US, France, Britain and Israel. Otherwise you're a man with no courage.

I will take notice of your words when you demonstrate you are a man of principle and courage and post likewise on here. You could start by defending our people, our country and eliminate politics from things like this. Until then I will not be lectured to by the likes of you.

I'm not the one bringing politics into it, I'm simply commenting on the politics that has been brought into it by Tony.

You of course wouldn't have known me during the Bali Bombings, but when there was no politics in play by Howard during the initial stages of that tragedy I was in full support of his actions.

Just like I was in full support of BOTH Campbell Newman and Bligh during the floods.

But Tony... well, "OPERATION BRING THEM HOME" speaks for itself.

And I don't mean to lecture you, other than to tell you that you are defying your own definition of courage.

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #17 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so

So I'll expect to see post condemning Morrison for his imprisonment of Iraq's & Afghan peoples.

USA for arming numerous rebels throughout the world.

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #18 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:32pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so

So I'll expect to see post condemning Morrison for his imprisonment of Iraq's & Afghan peoples.

USA for arming numerous rebels throughout the world.

Please don't lecture longie Wink

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #19 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:32pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so

So I'll expect to see post condemning Morrison for his imprisonment of Iraq's & Afghan peoples.

USA for arming numerous rebels throughout the world.

I will start when I read you condemning Russia...

well that ended quickly, didn't uit???

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #20 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so

So I'll expect to see post condemning Morrison for his imprisonment of Iraq's & Afghan peoples.

USA for arming numerous rebels throughout the world.

I will start when I read you condemning Russia...

well that ended quickly, didn't uit???

Did Russia shoot then plane down??

Or do I condemn then for supplying?

OK sure I condemn Russia for supplying armaments to rebel armies.

Your turn

Lets start with the USA

Iran's shar
Pinochet in South America
Taliban & then Northern Alliance in Afghanistan
And thats just off the top of my head.

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King FriYAY II Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2109	Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop Reply #21 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:40pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:28pm: I'm not the one bringing politics into it, I'm simply commenting on the politics that has been brought into it by Tony. LOL, which is just based on your opinion... Now that's enough, a bex and off to bed missy!!!
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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #22 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:43pm

King FriYAY II wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:28pm:

I'm not the one bringing politics into it, I'm simply commenting on the politics that has been brought into it by Tony.

LOL, which is just based on your opinion... Roll Eyes

Now that's enough, a bex and off to bed missy!!!

I raise you one with OPERATION BRING THEM HOME.

Now, stop trolling and offer something of substance.

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #23 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:44pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so

So I'll expect to see post condemning Morrison for his imprisonment of Iraq's & Afghan peoples.

USA for arming numerous rebels throughout the world.

I will start when I read you condemning Russia...

well that ended quickly, didn't uit???

Did Russia shoot then plane down??

Or do I condemn then for supplying?

OK sure I condemn Russia for supplying armaments to rebel armies.

Your turn

Lets start with the USA

Iran's shar
Pinochet in South America
Taliban & then Northern Alliance in Afghanistan
And thats just off the top of my head.

I'd prefer if longie can start with Morriscum.

I also condemn Russia supplying weapons, like I condemn any country supplying weapons to ANY rebel group, longie. Go!

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #24 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:47pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:43pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:28pm:

I'm not the one bringing politics into it, I'm simply commenting on the politics that has been brought into it by Tony.

LOL, which is just based on your opinion... Roll Eyes

Now that's enough, a bex and off to bed missy!!!

I raise you one with OPERATION BRING THEM HOME.

Now, stop trolling and offer something of substance.

I couldn't give a bugger what he named it.

I don't care what Bill said.

Cool

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #25 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:48pm

King FriYAY II wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:47pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:43pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:40pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:28pm:

I'm not the one bringing politics into it, I'm simply commenting on the politics that has been brought into it by Tony.

LOL, which is just based on your opinion... Roll Eyes

Now that's enough, a bex and off to bed missy!!!

I raise you one with OPERATION BRING THEM HOME.

Now, stop trolling and offer something of substance.

I couldn't give a bugger what he named it.

I don't care what Bill said.

Cool

I do like your life, friYAY. You don't seem to care about anything. Must be quite peaceful.

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #26 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:53pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so

So I'll expect to see post condemning Morrison for his imprisonment of Iraq's & Afghan peoples.

USA for arming numerous rebels throughout the world.

I will start when I read you condemning Russia...

well that ended quickly, didn't uit???

Did Russia shoot then plane down??

Or do I condemn then for supplying?

OK sure I condemn Russia for supplying armaments to rebel armies.

Your turn

Lets start with the USA

Iran's shar
Pinochet in South America
Taliban & then Northern Alliance in Afghanistan
And thats just off the top of my head.

it has taken nearly a week to get you to offer a piddly antiseptic comment about this incident. do you want a medal? When you want a serious debate then start by being a serious person and making a serious statement.

So I like the USAs actiona overseas at times? No.

happy now?

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #27 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 5:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Courage is when you stand up for your beliefs and for those who cannot stand up.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:19pm:

their lives destroyed by a country that invades another and arms idiots with missiles. Courage is when you step out of your comfort zone to defend the rights of those unable to defend themselves. it is not courage to criticise those that defend those that cannot do so

So I'll expect to see post condemning Morrison for his imprisonment of Iraq's & Afghan peoples.

USA for arming numerous rebels throughout the world.

I will start when I read you condemning Russia...

well that ended quickly, didn't uit???

Did Russia shoot then plane down??

Or do I condemn then for supplying?

OK sure I condemn Russia for supplying armaments to rebel armies.

Your turn

Lets start with the USA

Iran's shar
Pinochet in South America
Taliban & then Northern Alliance in Afghanistan
And thats just off the top of my head.

it has taken nearly a week to get you to offer a piddly antiseptic comment about this incident. do you want a medal? When you want a serious debate then start by being a serious person and making a serious statement.

So I like the USAs actiona overseas at times? No.

happy now?

so much for that courage.

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Re: Clinton praises Julie Bishop
Reply #28 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 5:07pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:53pm:

it has taken nearly a week to get you to offer a piddly antiseptic comment about this incident. do you want a medal? When you want a serious debate then start by being a serious person and making a serious statement.

No I want nothing.

And what's there to debate, I think Tony is farming for domestic political purposes & you don't.

You're not changing your mind no matter how the argument is broken down for you & mines a personal opinion of events.

Let me refer you to my VERY 1st post on this subject

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On a personal note this collective grief & hand wringing is puke worthy, the way its being reported & sensationalised is pathetic

I don't know anyone personally so my care factor is the same as when I hear of a road death.

I'm saddened for the family, happy they are anonymous to me & move on with life.

The Media & sadly IMO our PM are worse than ambulances chasing lawyers, Tony for relief in the polls(which would have come anyway) & as USUAL the media for sensationalizing to gain further advertising $$$.

I'm sorry you feel deeply upset & will be mortified if someone close to you was on that plane, but seeing as you haven't divulged that I'm assuming you're caught up in the moment for your own reasons.

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Reply #29 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 5:15pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 5:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 4:53pm:

it has taken nearly a week to get you to offer a piddly antiseptic comment about this incident. do you want a medal? When you want a serious debate then start by being a serious person and making a serious statement.

No I want nothing.

And what's there to debate, I think Tony is farming for domestic political purposes & you don't.

You're not changing your mind no matter how the argument is broken down for you & mines a personal opinion of events.

Let me refer you to my VERY 1st post on this subject

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On a personal note this collective grief & hand wringing is puke worthy, the way its being reported & sensationalised is pathetic

I don't know anyone personally so my care factor is the same as when I hear of a road death.

I'm saddened for the family, happy they are anonymous to me & move on with life.

The Media & sadly IMO our PM are worse than ambulances chasing lawyers, Tony for relief in the polls(which would have come anyway) & as USUAL the media for sensationalizing to gain further advertising $$$.

I'm sorry you feel deeply upset & will be mortified if someone close to you was on that plane, but seeing as you haven't divulged that I'm assuming you're caught up in the moment for your own reasons.

I want to hear you defend the highlighted statement and explain what Abbott has done that any leader worthy of the title would have done.

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