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Reply #45 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:06am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:00am:

The Russians & Ukrainians drink vodka like water -

journalists have reported the smell of alcohol on the armed guards at road checkpoints.

They do Bobby, they're getting quite a reputation in Thailand, for all the wrong reasons, taking over certain areas, drunk and crazy. Russians scare me sometimes.

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Reply #46 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:21am

One day after the first Malaysian crash I was flying when we hit turbulence - people started screaming as if the plane were going to crash. I just laffed knowing a bit of rough wind can't bring a plane down ... on Saturday I was flying again and was expecting a repeat of the screaming but the passengers were surprisingly calm ...

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Reply #48 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:07am

Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow

The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

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“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.

“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.

“The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”

The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.

At the moment of the MH17 crash an American satellite was flying over the area of eastern Ukraine, according to Russia’s Defense Ministry. It urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it.

‘Ukrainian Buk missile system transported to militia-held area’
In addition, MH17 crashed within the operating zone of the Ukrainian army’s self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air ‘Buk’ missile systems, the Russian general said.

“We have space images of certain places where the Ukraine’s air defense was located in the southeast of the country,” Kartapolov noted.

The first three shots that were shown by the general are dated July 14. The images show Buk missile launch systems in about 8km northwest of the city of Lugansk – a TELAR and two TELs, according to the military official.
Another image shows a radar station near Donets.

More here:
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

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Reply #50 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:28am

AiA wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:24am:

Americans calling for Putin's head is proof the entire country has only short-term memory: they have all forgotten about the massacre of Iran Air Flight 655.

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In 1996 the USA and Iran reached an agreement in full and final settlement of all disputes,differences,claims,counterclaims relating to the incident at the International court of justice.

As part of the settlement the USA did not admit legal liability but agreed to pay US$61.8 million,amounting to $213,103.45 per passenger,in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Lets see how Putin handles this one.

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Reply #51 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 4:22pm

Pilots, Air Traffic Controllers and Military Sound Off On MH17

Published on Jul 21, 2014
http://www.infowars.com/claim-mh17-wa...

Amid the confusion surrounding the downing of Malaysia Airlines MH17 comes a claim from an Iranian defense expert that could explain why the airliner was targeted by pro-Russian separatists.

Many have questioned how operators inside the Buk missile TELAR (transporter erector launcher and radar) could have possibly mistaken MH17′s radar signal as anything other than a civilian plane, given the Boeing 777′s altitude and transponder type.

Thus the notion that the missile operators believed they were firing at a Ukrainian Air Force surveillance plane has been rubbished by commentators.

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Reply #53 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 5:58pm

PROOF! Fighter Jet Was Closing In On MH17 Before Crash, Satellite Images of BUKs!

http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

Published on Jul 21, 2014
http://www.undergroundworldnews.com
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

"[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane," he stated.

The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.

At the moment of the MH17 crash an American satellite was flying over the area of eastern Ukraine, according to Russia's Defense Ministry. It urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it.

http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-pl...

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Re: Malaysian Flight MH17 Down
Reply #54 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:42pm

Malaysian Airlines plane crash: Russian military unveil data on MH17 incident over Ukraine (FULL)

Published on Jul 21, 2014
The Russian Defense Ministry holds a press conference on the details of MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine. Defense Ministry reports that on the day of the catastrophe, a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the Boeing 777. Calling for Kiev to explain why the fighter jet was tracking the airplane.

Time stamps:

BUK M1 surface to air missiles: http://youtu.be/4bNPInuSqfs?t=2m38s

Ukrainian SU25 fighter near MH17: http://youtu.be/4bNPInuSqfs?t=11m17s

Video of air traffic over Donetsk: http://youtu.be/4bNPInuSqfs?t=15m9s

Experimental US satellite over Ukraine during time of MH17: http://youtu.be/4bNPInuSqfs?t=22m41s

Issue with 'smoking gun' video & car dealership address: http://youtu.be/4bNPInuSqfs?t=25m3s

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Reply #55 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:10am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:00am:

The Russians & Ukrainians drink vodka like water -

journalists have reported the smell of alcohol on the armed guards at road checkpoints.

Yet, alcohol is odourless Undecided

True, Greggery, but our dear brother known as the Light does not abuse his body with such substances.

He just reads like that.

And so it is.

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Reply #56 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:10am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:00am:

The Russians & Ukrainians drink vodka like water -

journalists have reported the smell of alcohol on the armed guards at road checkpoints.

Yet, alcohol is odourless Undecided

Pure alcohol may be, but are you saying that journalists, not in any special capacity but as normal people, cannot detect the telltale signs of the breakdown of alcohol on the breath of guards?

Do you have a point?

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Reply #57 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 6:15am

Whistleblower, former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry: Ukrainian Troops Shot Down MH17

http://www.stage2omega.com/whistleblower-ukrainian-troops-shot-down-mh17/

Whistleblower: Ukrainian Troops Shot Down MH17
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Published on Jul 21, 2014

Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17.

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Re: Malaysian Flight MH17 Down
Reply #58 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 6:36am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 8:00am:

The Russians & Ukrainians drink vodka like water -

journalists have reported the smell of alcohol on the armed guards at road checkpoints.

They do Bobby, they're getting quite a reputation in Thailand, for all the wrong reasons, taking over certain areas, drunk and crazy. Russians scare me sometimes.

They are drunken Yobbos.

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Reply #59 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 7:16am

Kind regards Master Light

more lies and facts

being exposed

We already know they lied about Vietnam, Yugoslavia, the first gulf war, Iraq, Libya and Syria, what's new?

The reality is that the US have littered the skies of this border region with satellites. Russia have released their evidence, but America hasn't. If they had the smoking bullet, they'd show it, for sure.

The answer to the ten questions asked by Russia...."this man is caught up in his own propaganda machine"

That's not the answers we want.

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