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Reply #60 - Aug 23rd, 2014 at 10:12pm
 
ah  Melbourne  .. I remember living there.. so sad for you.. but it does not equate.................. YOU SAY   Enjoy your rain, it's not unprecedented and not even unusual.
We had blue skies and a tad over 20 degrees in Melbourne today...must be some man made warming rates of change or some other laughable tosh .. 

CITY FOLK..!! Smiley Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes 

NO CLUE.
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Reply #61 - Sep 1st, 2014 at 9:36pm
 
Emma wrote on Aug 23rd, 2014 at 10:12pm:
ah  Melbourne  .. I remember living there.. so sad for you.. but it does not equate.................. YOU SAY   Enjoy your rain, it's not unprecedented and not even unusual.
We had blue skies and a tad over 20 degrees in Melbourne today...must be some man made warming rates of change or some other laughable tosh .. 

CITY FOLK..!! Smiley Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes 

NO CLUE.


LOL hell Emma, Don't you know AGW is REALLY....AL Gore said so, he wouldn't fib.
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Reply #62 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:05am
 
Emma wrote on Aug 23rd, 2014 at 9:25pm:
'cos  I have observed real change.. and only in this last 50 yrs,, has the RATE of CHANGE in the natural world... speeded up..to such a degree as to be  recognisable in realtime. !!



And yet it is not unprecedented. The rate of change is similar 1910-1940 as it is 1970-2000.
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Reply #63 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 10:54pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:05am:
Emma wrote on Aug 23rd, 2014 at 9:25pm:
'cos  I have observed real change.. and only in this last 50 yrs,, has the RATE of CHANGE in the natural world... speeded up..to such a degree as to be  recognisable in realtime. !!



And yet it is not unprecedented. The rate of change is similar 1910-1940 as it is 1970-2000.

lol why don't you just say it again and again and again and again until it becomes the truth...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #64 - Sep 3rd, 2014 at 11:08pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 10:54pm:
lee wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 11:05am:
Emma wrote on Aug 23rd, 2014 at 9:25pm:
'cos  I have observed real change.. and only in this last 50 yrs,, has the RATE of CHANGE in the natural world... speeded up..to such a degree as to be  recognisable in realtime. !!



And yet it is not unprecedented. The rate of change is similar 1910-1940 as it is 1970-2000.

lol why don't you just say it again and again and again and again until it becomes the truth...  Roll Eyes


Yeaarrse   say it often enough and the fools will believe it.
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Reply #65 - Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:49am
 
I don't know what we're arguing about. Climate change is always real. It was real 10,000 years ago and long before that.
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Reply #66 - Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:53am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:49am:
I don't know what we're arguing about. Climate change is always real. It was real 10,000 years ago and long before that.



I agree, but whether or not we're artifically inflating its effects.
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Reply #67 - Sep 4th, 2014 at 2:29pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:53am:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:49am:
I don't know what we're arguing about. Climate change is always real. It was real 10,000 years ago and long before that.



I agree, but whether or not we're artifically inflating its effects.


Ah, well that's where we get to a philosophical divide between those who rank the power of man above the power of the natural cycle and those who don't.
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Reply #68 - Sep 4th, 2014 at 5:33pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 3rd, 2014 at 10:54pm:
lol why don't you just say it again and again and again and again until it becomes the truth..



And yet slope on a graph is rate of change. So you do not even believe the graphs- including those from the IPCC? How bizarre.
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Reply #69 - Sep 4th, 2014 at 11:50pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 2:29pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:53am:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:49am:
I don't know what we're arguing about. Climate change is always real. It was real 10,000 years ago and long before that.



I agree, but whether or not we're artifically inflating its effects.


Ah, well that's where we get to a philosophical divide between those who rank the power of man above the power of the natural cycle and those who don't.



Perhaps you are right about a philosophical divide... but really that doesn't matter.. does it? ... in the scheme of things.

Because what happens ... happens,..   Roll Eyes  regardless of our  philosophical view.  We as individuals can have any opinion ... it has NO IMPACT  on the real world.
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Reply #70 - Sep 4th, 2014 at 11:52pm
 
and frankly.. I find anyone who says that we have no real impact  to be a fool.

And I'm sure that most of you deniers happily fly around the world,  spewing filth from those high flyers.. Who cares..??

NOT YOU.. obviously. Sad

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Reply #71 - Sep 5th, 2014 at 10:19am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 11:50pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 2:29pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:53am:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 10:49am:
I don't know what we're arguing about. Climate change is always real. It was real 10,000 years ago and long before that.



I agree, but whether or not we're artifically inflating its effects.


Ah, well that's where we get to a philosophical divide between those who rank the power of man above the power of the natural cycle and those who don't.



Perhaps you are right about a philosophical divide... but really that doesn't matter.. does it? ... in the scheme of things.

Because what happens ... happens,..   Roll Eyes  regardless of our  philosophical view.
  We as individuals can have any opinion ... it has NO IMPACT  on the real world.


But the philosophical divide is about what our response should be.
IF the current warming is man-made, then there may be something we could do to slow it, or stop it.

However, IF the current warming is natural, or mostly natural, then adapting to the change is the only option, and worrying about how to reverse it is a waste of time, money and effort.
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Reply #72 - Sep 5th, 2014 at 11:23am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 11:52pm:
And I'm sure that most of you deniers happily fly around the world,  spewing filth from those high flyers.. Who cares..??



Well I guess Al Gore in his private plane does; doesn't he?
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Reply #73 - Sep 5th, 2014 at 6:15pm
 
does he??
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Reply #74 - Sep 5th, 2014 at 8:45pm
 
The climate has always changed for millions of years. There is nothing wrong with it.
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