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Reply #30 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:19pm
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:09pm:
ian wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:03pm:
i dont need money to be better than you Moldi.


Of course you don't ian, of course you don't.
You just come online and live your fantasy life.
You can be as rich as you want or pretend to be as nice as you want.
Hell you can even call others Moldi and feel good about yourself can't you.
You are just so trendy, young, hip and rich ian.
I bet you are really fit and tough as well.

It is clear you aren't rich at all.
Clearly your ego needs to write cheques your body can't cash on forums.
I fail to see why people need to fake it. There is nothing up
with not being rich.

hEY -->> hOLY WAR YEH: HAVE EIGHT KIDS AND WAGE HOLY WAR IN ANOTHER COUNTRY YEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #31 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:21pm
 
Mattywisk wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:16pm:
I doubt it he was probably on the money I'd say.

Hows the weight going matty? Still chowing down on the Maccas with a side of cookie dough?
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Reply #32 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:22pm
 
Mattywisk wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:16pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:16pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 29th, 2014 at 10:28pm:
Get a job mate.

Oh noes, mahdis evolution of hate directed to random people online has been stunted: let us all hope the energy you saved has gone into making better bombs!  Smiley

GO AUSSIE OI OI OI...!!


I thought your horse never did stunts.

matty is a bomb maker, lol  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh hey whateva  Embarrassed
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Reply #33 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:25pm
 
The Weight loss is going great Ian, I lost another two kilos this week and I am down to 75kg now.
Have you broken the 150kg mark yet  ? 

I know you were struggling coming down past the 162kg mark a little while ago.
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Reply #34 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 11:26pm
 
sure you did Grin
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Reply #35 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 7:35am
 
Wealth Inequality Doubled Over Last 10 Years, Study Finds


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June 25, 2014

An analysis by researchers at the University of Michigan shows a drastic increase in wealth inequality since 2003.

A new study finds wealth inequality among U.S. households has nearly doubled over the past decade.

The analysis, performed by researchers at the University of Michigan, shows households in the 95th percentile of net worth had 13 times the wealth of the median household in 2003. By 2013, this disparity had increased almost twofold, with the wealthiest 5% of Americans holding 24 times that of the median.

In dollars terms, the median wealth of a US household was $87,992 in 2003, and by 2013 had decreased 36% to $56,335. In contrast, the richest 10% actually saw their net worth increase from 2003 to 2013, with the highest gains going to the top 5%. The median wealth of the households in the top five percent grew over 12% during the same time period, from $1,192,639 to $1,364,834.

The study also shows similar wealth inequality growth between median and poor households. In 2013, the 50th percentile held 17.6 times the wealth of the least wealthy 25%—over twice the disparity found in 2003.

A principal reason for the rapid increase in wealth disparity over the last 10 years is the different ways various economic groups invest their money. According to the study’s lead author, Fabian T. Pfeffer, more than half of the median household’s wealth in 2007 was in home equity. By comparison, the median household in the richest 5th percentile held only 16% of their wealth in home equity, with the lion’s share being kept in real assets, including business assets (49%) and financial instruments like stocks and bonds (25%).

Pfeffer explains that because stocks have recovered more quickly than the real estate market—the S&P reached its pre-recession high in March of 2013, while home prices are still far from their 2006 peak—average households were hurt far more than richer Americans when the housing bubble popped. When home equity is excluded from household wealth, the impact of the housing crash on average Americans is especially clear. A median household’s total net worth declined by $42,000 between 2007 and 2013, but their wealth held in non-real estate assets declined by only $6,900. The Great Recession’s disproportionate impact on real estate allowed the richest households, who could afford to diversify their investments, to grow wealth even during a deflating housing market.

Another concern for middle class households is that many sold off investments during the recession in order meet expenses, and are now less able to enjoy the benefits of a recovering economy. “Part of the lack of recovery is that they [median American households] had to divest,” says Pfeffer. “The troubles will stay with them for the next couple of decades as they try to reclaim these assets.”

Will wealth inequality continue to increase at its current pace? Pfeffer believes it would take another deep recession for inequality to double again in the next 10 years, but says his research confirms what economists like best-selling author Thomas Piketty have been saying for years: that returns to capital have been increasing at a rapid pace over the last century, creating a persistently swelling gap between the wealth of the haves and the have-nots. “I don’t see many hopefully signs that we’re going to get back to where we were 10 years ago,” Pfeffer says.

Some have claimed inequality is less important as long as all Americans see wealth gains over time. The rich may get richer faster, but that might not matter if the poor and middle class are also seeing their wealth increase. Pfeffer disagrees. A rising tide may lift all boats, but the Michigan professor points out that wealth not only tends to determine political influence, but also that wealth inequality greatly affects the opportunities available to the children of the middle class, especially in terms of education. “The further families pull apart [in net worth], the more disparate the opportunities become for their offspring,” he says.
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Reply #36 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 8:56am
 
All generalizations are false.
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Reply #37 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 9:35am
 

A wealthy person does have an obvious advantage over a poor one.
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Reply #38 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:47am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 9:35am:
A wealthy person does have an obvious advantage over a poor one.


Maybe not an "obvious" advantage. But the Michigan professor Fabian T. Pfeffer rightly points out that wealth not only tends to determine political influence, but also that wealth inequality greatly affects the opportunities available to the children of the middle class, especially in terms of education.
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Reply #39 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:53am
 
vikaryan wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:47am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 9:35am:
A wealthy person does have an obvious advantage over a poor one.


[b]Maybe not an "obvious" advantage. But the Michigan professor Fabian T. Pfeffer rightly points out that wealth not only tends to determine political influence, but also that [highlight]wealth inequality greatly affects the opportunities available to the children of the middle class, especially in terms of education.


i find your posting quite meaningless and pointless.
Are you against wealth ?

Of course wealth is an advantage over poverty
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Reply #40 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:57am
 
The Inequality of it all

Posted by ajohnstone at 3:53 am

SOCIALISM OR YOUR MONEY BACK BLOGSPOT

The Boss Class excuse poor wage growth and high unemployment as part of the global competitive marketplace, saying that everyone needs to tighten their belts. But not everyone is struggling--in fact, the rich are better off than ever. They  control half of all the wealth, and the top 10%  control almost 9/10ths of it. Corporate profits are  at or near record highs, disproving the myth that the middle class must suffer due to competitive pressures. The Dow Jones index is threatening to burst past 17,000. Meanwhile, wages have stagnated since the Reagan era, even though  productivity continues to increase. Corporate executives, in other words, are forcing workers to toil longer, harder and smarter than ever, but all the proceeds are going into the hands of the very rich while the people actually creating the wealth are struggling harder than ever to get by. Some liberals desperately attempt to blame poor regulation and "crony capitalism." but it is the system.  Tax rates on the wealthiest Americans are at near record lows and asset values are up to record highs.

40% of the assets of the wealthy are sitting in deposits: the rich person's equivalent of a security blanket for the very people who need it least. 80 percent of the bank accounts in tax havens are not declared to tax authorities. The bulk of the private wealth held offshore evades taxes. $7.6 trillion is deposited  in these offshore accounts.
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Reply #41 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 11:00am
 

so, you agree, it is better to be wealthy than poor ?
ps, big caps, bolding and highlights does not prove your ideas.

A discussion with a person might validate your point.
Say what you mean, clearly.
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Reply #42 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 11:00am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:53am:
vikaryan wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 10:47am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 30th, 2014 at 9:35am:
A wealthy person does have an obvious advantage over a poor one.


[b]Maybe not an "obvious" advantage. But the Michigan professor Fabian T. Pfeffer rightly points out that wealth not only tends to determine political influence, but also that [highlight]wealth inequality greatly affects the opportunities available to the children of the middle class, especially in terms of education.


i find your posting quite meaningless and pointless.
Are you against wealth ?

Of course wealth is an advantage over poverty


Roll Eyes

Google "fiat money" and "inflation tax".


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Reply #43 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 11:11am
 
100-Year Flashback – Even The Father Of The Fed ‘Feared’ Fiat Money

Posted on June 28, 2014 by Fiat Planet - FatCow      

Paul Warburg – the oft-cited ‘father of the Federal Reserve’ – pushes back on those who see him as favoring the issue of ‘fiat money’… No one, he writes, “has given more time and energy to “the fight for sound money,” adding a warning that “all direct connection between the government and the banking business is undesirable.” We suspect Warburg would be turning in his grave at the oligarchy he unleashed…
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Reply #44 - Jun 30th, 2014 at 11:15am
 
Quote:
They call it poverty, the economists and the politicians. But it is not; it is violence… . There is no corresponding Forbes listing of the world’s poorest people, no algorithm to estimate the pace and ferocity of hunger and malnutrition, and if death by destitution were considered poverty’s end-of-the-road there would, of course, be no single annual world’s poorest – millions would share that doleful distinction. Thus for every Forbes billionaire with their glossy photographs and charitable foundations there is, at the other end of the spectrum a corresponding underworld, perhaps a fourth world, of millions of emaciated, shunted-aside people, most of them not yet kindergarten age. This – not the construction of a cushiony intermediate class plugged in to computers and cell phones, fashion, hybrid cars, and other delicacies of disposable income – is the achievement of the Age of Economic Imperialism. One writer said that you could gauge a democracy by the conditions in its prisons – so too can you gauge an economy by the nature of its extremes.

— John Gibler, Mexico Unconquered: Chronicles of Power & Revolt
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