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Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back.
Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 11:55am

Thats what they want.

Many lefties here are still committed to believing in an exceptional welfare system for the world to follow, that we can allow our welfare system to grow and meet the insatiable demands of australians who feel entitled through some level of poverty based victimhood that they are entitled to free money courtesy of the taxpayers.

But the lefties are also calling for an extension of that level of compassion and generosity of australians to allow unlimited numbers of country shoppers to come to australia even by leaky unsafe boats, and they know and believe that they will get everything that the people smugglers falsely advertise that australia will give them with one of the most generous welfare systems to extends its arms to take care of them all.

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Re: Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back.
Reply #1 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 11:58am

And for those who think shorten and labor look somewhat good or tolerable, think about what happened to this issue for the last six years and look where it took labor and the greens in the last election.

Who remembers the anger that there was so many country shoppers that they had to be housed in 4-5 STAR MOTELS.

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Kytro Gold Member Offline Blasphemy: a victimless crime Posts: 3409 Adelaide Gender:	Re: Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back. Reply #2 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:14pm Welfare is mostly assistance to the aged and families with children. It is only small proportion that are unemployed, for example, and of those a minority are long term.
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Reply #3 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:21pm

Kytro wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Welfare is mostly assistance to the aged and families with children. It is only small proportion that are unemployed, for example, and of those a minority are long term.

And referring to those to ONLY IN australia, those families and children, the unemployable, those who are genuinely sick or too physically handicapped to work, but we are now adding people from overseas who can come here by boat and automatically jump on the governments payroll.

Why it would attract only more of these people and the government has to find the money to look after these extra people and non australians who i believe shouldnt be here.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back. Reply #4 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:28pm Personally I prefer Abbotts model where hard working Aussies are forced to work until they drop dead of old age while pollies can retire early on half a million dollars a year with a lifetime of free air travel for them and their families
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Reply #5 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:30pm

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Personally I prefer Abbotts model where hard working Aussies are forced to work until they drop dead of old age while pollies can retire early on half a million dollars a year with a lifetime of free air travel for them and their families Grin

I think you have posted that half baked piece of crap in the wrong thread, Cheesy

Cmon adelcrow, you want hotel australia, back, dont you ?

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Reply #6 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:32pm

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 11:55am:

Thats what they want.

Many lefties here are still committed to believing in an exceptional welfare system for the world to follow, that we can allow our welfare system to grow and meet the insatiable demands of australians who feel entitled through some level of poverty based victimhood that they are entitled to free money courtesy of the taxpayers.

But the lefties are also calling for an extension of that level of compassion and generosity of australians to allow unlimited numbers of country shoppers to come to australia even by leaky unsafe boats, and they know and believe that they will get everything that the people smugglers falsely advertise that australia will give them with one of the most generous welfare systems to extends its arms to take care of them all.

I believe in entitlement.

If you have paid heavy taxes all your life so that other people can
live the easy life on a pension then
why shouldn't you be entitled to the same luxury?

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Re: Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back.
Reply #7 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:32pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 11:55am:

Thats what they want.

Many lefties here are still committed to believing in an exceptional welfare system for the world to follow, that we can allow our welfare system to grow and meet the insatiable demands of australians who feel entitled through some level of poverty based victimhood that they are entitled to free money courtesy of the taxpayers.

But the lefties are also calling for an extension of that level of compassion and generosity of australians to allow unlimited numbers of country shoppers to come to australia even by leaky unsafe boats, and they know and believe that they will get everything that the people smugglers falsely advertise that australia will give them with one of the most generous welfare systems to extends its arms to take care of them all.

I believe in entitlement.

If you have paid heavy taxes all your life so that other people can
live the easy life on a pension then
why shouldn't you be entitled to the same luxury?

I have no problem with that, and thats i why i have no problems with the old age seniors pension for those people, I believe you will find no arguments from me on that. However it does not mean that many people who are still young and NOT SENIOR AGED who can still move arms or legs and still have a brain to think, choose laziness over a working life is not there with me and the promise of being looked after on the governments payroll with that going on is a serious one to still keep talking about.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back. Reply #8 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:42pm When I can use the charity bike rides, running and swimming events that myself and hundreds of thousands of other Australians partake in as an excuse to claim tens of thousands of dollars back from hardworking taxpayers then I will know that all Australians are truly equal
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Reply #9 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:43pm

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:32pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 11:55am:

Thats what they want.

Many lefties here are still committed to believing in an exceptional welfare system for the world to follow, that we can allow our welfare system to grow and meet the insatiable demands of australians who feel entitled through some level of poverty based victimhood that they are entitled to free money courtesy of the taxpayers.

But the lefties are also calling for an extension of that level of compassion and generosity of australians to allow unlimited numbers of country shoppers to come to australia even by leaky unsafe boats, and they know and believe that they will get everything that the people smugglers falsely advertise that australia will give them with one of the most generous welfare systems to extends its arms to take care of them all.

I believe in entitlement.

If you have paid heavy taxes all your life so that other people can
live the easy life on a pension then
why shouldn't you be entitled to the same luxury?

I have no problem with that, and thats i why i have no problems with the old age seniors pension for those people, I believe you will find no arguments from me on that. However it does not mean that many people who are still yound and NOT SENIOR AGED who can move arms or legs and still have a brain to think, choose laziness over a working life is not there and the promise of being looked after on the governments payroll is a serious one to keep talking about.

OK then,
what if someone has paid heavy taxes all their working life &
then get retrenched - but refused any dole money?

This happens every day through means testing.
Centerlink has 1001 excuse not to pay people a cent.

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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back. Reply #10 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:47pm This is about the country shoppers essentially, its amazing how we are asked to except these boat people on top of all other people who shouldnt be here, and the political left wants to fight for there so call right to get on the governments payroll.
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Reply #11 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:43pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:32pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 11:55am:

Thats what they want.

Many lefties here are still committed to believing in an exceptional welfare system for the world to follow, that we can allow our welfare system to grow and meet the insatiable demands of australians who feel entitled through some level of poverty based victimhood that they are entitled to free money courtesy of the taxpayers.

But the lefties are also calling for an extension of that level of compassion and generosity of australians to allow unlimited numbers of country shoppers to come to australia even by leaky unsafe boats, and they know and believe that they will get everything that the people smugglers falsely advertise that australia will give them with one of the most generous welfare systems to extends its arms to take care of them all.

I believe in entitlement.

If you have paid heavy taxes all your life so that other people can
live the easy life on a pension then
why shouldn't you be entitled to the same luxury?

I have no problem with that, and thats i why i have no problems with the old age seniors pension for those people, I believe you will find no arguments from me on that. However it does not mean that many people who are still yound and NOT SENIOR AGED who can move arms or legs and still have a brain to think, choose laziness over a working life is not there and the promise of being looked after on the governments payroll is a serious one to keep talking about.

OK then,
what if someone has paid heavy taxes all their working life &
then get retrenched - but refused any dole money?

This happens every day through means testing.
Centerlink has 1001 excuse not to pay people a cent.

Well of course its going to be means tested if your retrenched, you seem to have left out REDUNDANCY PAYOUTS, ??

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Re: Political left wants HOTEL AUSTRALIA back.
Reply #12 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:52pm

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:47pm:

This is about the country shoppers essentially, its amazing how we are asked to except these boat people on top of all other people who shouldnt be here, and the political left wants to fight for there so call right to get on the governments payroll.

I agree..we need to stay the way we are....An aging population with fewer young people around to pay taxes and contribute to fixing a crumbing infrastructure.
Who needs young hardworking migrants entering the country?..Keep em all out and lets be a country of old farts Grin

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Reply #13 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:56pm

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:52pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:47pm:

This is about the country shoppers essentially, its amazing how we are asked to except these boat people on top of all other people who shouldnt be here, and the political left wants to fight for there so call right to get on the governments payroll.

I agree..we need to stay the way we are....An aging population with fewer young people around to pay taxes and contribute to fixing a crumbing infrastructure.
Who needs young hardworking migrants entering the country?..Keep em all out and lets be a country of old farts Grin

So I guess in your mind we should have any borders whats so ever, lets just let anybody in, no matter the reason or what it costs the taxpayers, just let them in.

If you want we let them in, why dont you let them stay at your place or any other refugee advocates residence, SHOW US BY EXAMPLE, how does that sound ???

Who cares who they are, just do it because i see it makes you feel good, hey adel, Cheesy

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Reply #14 - Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 1:03pm

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:56pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:52pm:

stryder wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2014 at 12:47pm:

This is about the country shoppers essentially, its amazing how we are asked to except these boat people on top of all other people who shouldnt be here, and the political left wants to fight for there so call right to get on the governments payroll.

I agree..we need to stay the way we are....An aging population with fewer young people around to pay taxes and contribute to fixing a crumbing infrastructure.
Who needs young hardworking migrants entering the country?..Keep em all out and lets be a country of old farts Grin

So I guess in your mind we should have any borders whats so ever, lets just let anybody in, no matter the reason or what it costs the taxpayers, just let them in.

If you want we let them in, but they can stay at your place or any other refugee advocates, how does that sound ???

Who cares who they are, just do it because i see it makes you feel good, hey adel, Cheesy

Why attack me?..Im agreeing that we should leave Australia to rot with an aging population and an ever decreasing tax base.
We dont need to revitalise this country by welcoming young hardworking enthusiastic migrants who can bring new ideas and boost our economy.
We are all going to be working until we drop dead of old age anyway so we dont need these trouble making migrants around Cheesy

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