well excuse me..

yank

There is no CO2 crises, all the average person has to do is go and have a look in to history.

If CO2 controlled temperature it would be evident in our history.

There have been times when CO2 has risen and temperature dropped, there have also been times when temperature has risen and CO2 dropped.

The scale that is ALWAYS show by the alarmists is around the 500,000 year time scale which makes it look as though temperature and CO2 correlate.

If you get a time scale of 10,000 years they don't come close.

If you get a time scale of millions of years they don't come close.

If you get todays CO2 emission levels and temperature they DONT correlate far from it.

That's why the alarmists have all these crazy theories that the ocean is sucking up all this extra heat that the extra CO2 is producing.

If the Earth was so finely tunned we would have perished eons ago.

They never tell people that we once had 20 times the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere that we have today and life thrived.

Today we have some of the lowest temperatures and lowest amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere, there have only been one or two instances in our history when we have had so low temperature and CO2.

So when you reach rock bottom there's only one way to go UP.......??????

I love the environment just as much as any greenie but don't p!ss down my back and tell me its raining.

This global warming religion is communism dressed up as environmentalism, the United Nations want to control the worlds energy resources and at the same time to redistribute wealth from the west to under developed nations.

So all you goody two shoes who want to save the environment and have been brained washed by the global warming religion wake up for goodness sake, it can be done without the United nations, the world bank, the IMF and who everelse has their dirty little fingers in the pie.

The reality is when temperature rises CO2 follows with a lag of about 800 years.

Al Gore got it the arse about he told us that CO2 rise and then temperature follows.

What do you honestly expect from a politician....!!!!!!!!

10,000 year time scale

500,000 year time scale (the scale the alarmist ALWAYS use)

millions of year time scale

TODAY

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Which mine or power station is government run....????

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Whys is history irrelevant?

It shows us that we once had about 20 times the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere that we have today, that's about 7000ppm compared to todays 400ppm and life thrived!!!!!

And guess what there was no runaway greenhouse effect, so if it didn't happen in the past why should it happen now!

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Climate change has been with us since the beginning and will not stop until the Earth ceases to exist as we know it, are you trying to make climate change stand still at some status quo??????

That my dear is impossible because we cannot control the weather!!!!!

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I told you climate change is climate change it cannot be changed.

What your trying to say is the infinitesimal amount of CO2 that humans produce will bring about our end.

Not climate change it has been here since day dot and will never stand still or go away.

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OOhhhh and who told you that we have entered the equation, maybe the IPCC who are owned by the United Nations who in turn are owned by the world bank...???

I guess who ever owns the world bank will control the rest of their subsidiaries, look it up.

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As far as I know the oligarchy want to reduce the population possibly down to about 500 million all over the world, the problem is they expect me and you to put our hands up and volunteer while they remain behind and enjoy their billions. 

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Who's the fwit...............................????????????


Here are your masters of the universe, when you support Anthropogenic Global Warming these are the PIGS you are supporting.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1382479215

And this is their holly bible..!!!!!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1401466108

The Godfather of the environmental movement Communism dressed up as environmentalism.....NO THANKS



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and NOW climate change may bring about our end. 

which was my point ..

I   ..   
I  ...I am brainwashed...????   

Like I said ... show me all the charts you like..your support for the global conspiracy theory you favour

all the evidence you have that says all is well... it's just another normal episode of climate as usual///    and next yr,, hey the next 50 yrs,,, will show us what fools we were to believe there is SOMETHING WRONG.!

Well sorry... I don't BUY into your fantasies .... 
YOU may believe what you like.. no skin of MY nose...

  you can show all the stats and charts  ... but that doesn't change what is happening across the globe ... 

... weather...  yep  weather ... which constitutes  the world climate.. is acting perversely...  according to LIVING RECORDED history... 

Not Geological timeframes here.. get that...!!  this is NOW.
you can shove graphs and charts on the page  ... BUT YOU CANNOT PROVE your position,, anymore than the oppo... CAN YOU..??

You just need to look at the world in reality today to see... what is happening.... 

deny it as short-term phenomena   .....  lets hear what you say in .. oh.. even  5 yrs...  will your mantra remain the same..?

Emma wrote on Jul 7^th, 2014 at 12:45am:

Emma wrote on Jul 7^th, 2014 at 1:52am:

...people see the problem: disinvestment is the key!

Once the stocks do the talking the problem is solved but the problem is environmental subsidies: the government intervenes and gives the polluters the upper hand by making polluting technologies cheaper than non polluting technologies.

That is government intervention into the free-market making it inefficient!!

It's all regulation of markets- the problems are well identified, yet the competing problems of a tax base are a necessary reality!

Year 11 economics tells us that the problems of government intervention in the market place are very difficult to extract oneself from as economies are built on incentive and once economies have been built around bad incentives the resultant economy is next to impossible to undo...

THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM: PEOPLE LIVE AND DIE BY THE ECONOMY THAT EXISTS NOW, SO CHANGING THAT MEANS PEOPLE WILL LOSE JOBS AND THAT CAN BE A SCARY THING AS NO ONE CAN PREDICT EXACTLY HOW MANY JOBS AND LIVELIHOODS THAT MEANS!!

Prevention is always better than the cure.. 

Emma wrote on Jul 7^th, 2014 at 2:37am:

Are you being more cryptic than me  or is it just me??