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Reply #45 - Jun 24^th, 2014 at 3:47pm

|dev|null wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Participation?

Where's DL? I'm surprised he, as an ADFA veteran has not commented yet. Seems he is far more interested in attacking:

a) Muslims
b) Me
c) People who post at D&R.

Strange, here is someone who claims first hand experience of the culture and atmosphere of ADFA during the 1990s and he's silent on the topic. I wonder why?

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What is more than acceptable in civvie street, will never be accepted by the mainstream ADF.

The evidence appears to suggest the reverse. Violent, aggressive, rapists seem to have found a ready home in the defence forces.

What about the violent, aggressive, arab-muslim pack rapists to be found here in our own back yard?

That's okay as far as you're concerned because you have an ingrained hatred of Australians don't ya Cok Breath?

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Reply #46 - Jun 24^th, 2014 at 4:43pm

Taipan wrote on Jun 24^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

What about the violent, aggressive, arab-muslim pack rapists to be found here in our own back yard?

What of them? They've been rejected by wider society, you can evidence to the reverse?

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That's okay as far as you're concerned because you have an ingrained hatred of Australians don't ya Cok Breath?

Care to quote where I've expressed such a hatred or you just throwing as much mud as possible in the hope someone of it stick. I actually don't hate anybody. I pity the obviously stupid like you. Cheesy

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Reply #47 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:37am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 8:25pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Some individuals is not the ADF genius, keep trying. Grin

Well, generally I agree with you. The recent address by Lt. General Morrison to the UN Conference on Rape in War and the infamous YouTube address by Lt. Gen. David Morrison on "Unacceptable Behavior" shows that the attitude of the commanders has at least publicly changed. However, there is the problem of the organisation itself which seems to be rather lagging behind in it's disciplining of the perpetrators. General David Hurley's performance on the recent 4 Corners programme IMHO left something to be desired.

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Show me where the ADF, not just some individuals, but the ADF itself sanction this behaviour, if you can't then I suggest you try a less stupid approach.

Perhaps you'd care to show us the ADF's sanctions against the individuals who have committed these abuses and rapes? They appear to be somewhat absent from my radar.

The ADF is changing, as an organisation. It's attitude is undergoing a transformation. Unfortunately it would appear the attitudes of many in the ADF appear to be somewhat lagging behind the institutional change which is occurring. Either they will shape up or they will ship out, however the commitment to the change will only be perceivable by how fast the institutional response is and what it is to the allegations as they are revealed by these inquiries which are presently ongoing.

As the recent revelations about HMS Leeuwin have revealed, there has been a long ongoing rot in the ranks. Hopefully cleaning it out won't be as difficult as cleaning the Augean stables.

I will answer you question while ignoring HB stupid responce.

The ADF does not prosecute crime covered by civilian statutes only military crimes, so you will never see any information on this matter in the military courts. Anyone in the ADF committing this type of crime is dealt with by the police as a civilian crime.

If the police choose not to prosecute the crime, then it is not because the ADF 'told' them to 'leave it alone'. The police prosecute ADF members for all sorts of civilian infrctions. Maybe the right of justice applies to ADF memebers the same as anyone else. There are not separate statistice for individual careers as far as Im aware.

But as I have mention previously, the recruiting pool for the ADF is pretty polluted so, unfortunately this will be an ongoing problem while the average civilain male is such a scumbag POS rapist type, themselves.

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Reply #49 - Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:15am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:37am:

I will answer you question while ignoring HB stupid responce.

How is it stupid? Just because you disagree with it? Grin

You need to learn the difference between and & because.

It is not stupid because I disagree with it.

It is stupid and I disagree with it.

Everything you say and believe is based on ignorance and that is what makes you stupid, if you had any level of influence it would also make you dangerous. But because you are a nobody, you are just harmless and stupid, like most of your kind.

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Reply #50 - Jun 26^th, 2014 at 10:22am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 5:15am:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:37am:

I will answer you question while ignoring HB stupid responce.

How is it stupid? Just because you disagree with it? Grin

You need to learn the difference between and & because.

It is not stupid because I disagree with it.

It is stupid and I disagree with it.

Everything you say and believe is based on ignorance and that is what makes you stupid, if you had any level of influence it would also make you dangerous. But because you are a nobody, you are just harmless and stupid, like most of your kind.

And my "kind" are? Highly intelligent, questioning young men or something else? Lets not mince words, you're such a straight shooter normally. Why not tell a youth of today where he's going wrong from your perspective as a mature, experienced man like yourself? Lets see a bit of agism, please! We don't want you to disappoint your fans! Grin

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Reply #51 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 12:41am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 10:22am:

And my "kind" are? Highly intelligent, questioning young men or something else?

That's a high opinion of yourself. Tell me Hotbreath you had an iq test, what was the score you claimed again?

My memory is probably not as good as that of a highly intelligent young man but maybe you could remind me, it was certainly a score to be proud of.

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Reply #52 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 5:14am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 10:22am:

And my "kind" are? Highly intelligent, questioning young men or something else? Lets not mince words, you're such a straight shooter normally. Why not tell a youth of today where he's going wrong from your perspective as a mature, experienced man like yourself? Lets see a bit of agism, please! We don't want you to disappoint your fans! Grin

Didn't know or care that you were a 'youth of today'. but consider you nothing more than an ignorant petulant fool with little ability to comprehend beyond a headline.

Straight enough for you?

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Reply #53 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 11:10am

Datalife wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 12:41am:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 10:22am:

And my "kind" are? Highly intelligent, questioning young men or something else?

That's a high opinion of yourself. Tell me Hotbreath you had an iq test, what was the score you claimed again?

My memory is probably not as good as that of a highly intelligent young man but maybe you could remind me, it was certainly a score to be proud of.

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The thread isn't about me DL. Why must you always drag discussions down to the level of personal attacks? Grin

When are you going to discuss the issue?

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Reply #54 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 11:12am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 5:14am:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 26^th, 2014 at 10:22am:

And my "kind" are? Highly intelligent, questioning young men or something else? Lets not mince words, you're such a straight shooter normally. Why not tell a youth of today where he's going wrong from your perspective as a mature, experienced man like yourself? Lets see a bit of agism, please! We don't want you to disappoint your fans! Grin

Didn't know or care that you were a 'youth of today'. but consider you nothing more than an ignorant petulant fool with little ability to comprehend beyond a headline.

Are you suggesting that Rupert's media is lying? I am shocked! Shocked! Grin

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Straight enough for you?

Not really. It missed. Grin

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 44073	Re: Interesting, no comment on the ongoing ADF abuse Reply #55 - Aug 5^th, 2014 at 9:43pm Former commando and 'Jedi Council' member, Hastings Fredrickson, pleads guilty to sharing sex photos. Something wrong with men who think degrading women somehow makes them more manly.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Interesting, no comment on the ongoing ADF abuse Reply #56 - Aug 6^th, 2014 at 5:38pm Anything to suggest he did it to be "more manly"?
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