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Reply #15 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:21am

Datalife wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

LOL just noticed this thread. You bozos are desperate, Brainless mentions me by name and has shots at me on a forum he owns and I am not a member of.

His idiot identikit "brother" draws my attention to it over here by posting a link then follows it up by starting a thread over here where he mentions me twice by name taunting me to respond. Presumably my answers here will be reported or followed over there by Brainless who likes to pretend he ignores me.

Frigging hilarious.

If you want to generate a bit of debate over there in your cosy luvvie love in forum all you needed to do was ask me nicely to become a member.

But the answer will still be no, not keen on forums owned by censorious softcock dictators.

So, the Ritalin isn't working for you DL? Your ADD appears to be getting the better of you. Grin

You were, I understand it, at ADFA in the 1990s. What were you doing about the culture of abuse that flourished there?

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Reply #16 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:22am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:48am:

... wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

Don't need to excuse or apologise anything - What happens in the ADF stays in the ADF. Nothing to do with you or I.

No, what happens in the ADF is of deep concern to the Australian community. The ADF is not separate from Australian society it is a part of Australian society and the relationship is a very deep one indeed. Not only are members of the ADF drawn from Australian society, Australian society has invested massive amounts of prestige, time and money in venerating the ADF. Our national prestige is deeply tied to the image of the Australian soldier/sailor/airman. Our national image is founded upon the ANZAC legend. The ADF is not separate from Australian society, it is deeply embedded in it. You simply cannot wash your hands of it.

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Geez it'd be nice if nice people wouldn't pretend they care about the people involved so much as they care about throwing some poo on the ADF.

Australian society expects the ADF to maintain the standards that civilians are set to obey plus be even better as upholders of the nation's prestige. The ADF appears, from the latest reports to have been running riot, abusing, raping, intimidating, destroying the young lives which were entrusted to it. Any organisation that eats its own, is doomed to failure. Shocked

Not surw which community I belong to then, because I am not concerned, deeply or otherwise.

I strongly doubt you are either, but it does give you a nice opportunity to hop on the soapbox.

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Reply #17 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:30am

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Not surw which community I belong to then, because I am not concerned, deeply or otherwise.

Yet you're here, commenting.

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I strongly doubt you are either, but it does give you a nice opportunity to hop on the soapbox.

I am contributing my two cent's worth. As I said in the opening post, I find it remarkable that despite this being a huge scandal concerning defence there was no thread devoted to it. Perhaps it isn't sexy enough for the pundits who hide out in this forum? Grin

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Reply #18 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:31am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

... wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

Not surw which community I belong to then, because I am not concerned, deeply or otherwise.

Yet you're here, commenting.
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I strongly doubt you are either, but it does give you a nice opportunity to hop on the soapbox.

I am contributing my two cent's worth. As I said in the opening post, I find it remarkable that despite this being a huge scandal concerning defence there was no thread devoted to it. Perhaps it isn't sexy enough for the pundits who hide out in this forum? Grin

Indeed I am, just to let you know your concern trolling has been noted for what it is.

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Reply #19 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:35am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

So, the Ritalin isn't working for you DL? Your ADD appears to be getting the better of you. Grin

Not sure what you mean by this comment. It is you that has been hopping up and down and desperately waving to get my attention, two alone in this thread, plus this thread transported from another forum and posting links to that forum where I am being insulted without the ability to respond.

Desperate or stalking. Or both. Ladies choice. (Clue for you there but you won't get it, bit of an in thing).

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Reply #21 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:49am

|dev|null wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:39am:

Avoiding the question still DL?

So, what did you do at ADFA during your tenure there about the culture of abuse there?

Here's your chance to explain, to tell us of your first hand experience.

I'll pass thanks. Grin

Though it does remind me of something...despite claiming to have been there when I questioned him about features of the place and things that ordinarily anyone who had been there should have known he reverted to his turtle down a hole response. Bloke is as full of shite as you.

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Reply #22 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 12:01pm

Datalife wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:39am:

Avoiding the question still DL?

So, what did you do at ADFA during your tenure there about the culture of abuse there?

Here's your chance to explain, to tell us of your first hand experience.

I'll pass thanks. Grin

Explains a lot about what was going on then. Were you a contributor then?

For someone complaining about someone else keeping their head down, you seem to be adopting the exact same tactic... Grin

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Reply #23 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 12:56pm

|dev|null wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:56am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

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What is more than acceptable in civvie street, will never be accepted by the mainstream ADF.

The evidence appears to suggest the reverse. Violent, aggressive, rapists seem to have found a ready home in the defence forces.

So you don't want to discuss anything, you just want to throw sh1t?

Simply because you don't like the statement does not mean the statement is not valid or part of "the discussion". If sh!t sticks, you have a problem. The outcome from the various inquiries is starting to come home to roost. You can't ignore those outcomes.

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Those lttle scumbags come from you wonderful civilians, and if you didn't bother reading my story, it, in a nutshell, does not paint s pretty picture of Australian civilians. You lot are some nasty little rapists and general filth, so I wouldn't throw too much sh1t if I were you.

Those scumbags were entrusted with the youths they were supposedly training to be defenders of the nation. They were representatives of the ADF. Their superiors either did nothing or actively conspired to cover up this criminal behaviour or at absolute worse were active participants. Now that the wider society is aware of this criminal behaviour it is demanding that something be done about it. Obviously, wider society does not tolerate such behaviour. Why did the ADF? Obviously it has lost sight of its responsibility to not only it's own personnel but wider society. Grin

So no investigation into civilian males that love to rape 1 in 6 Australian women, so yuou can continue your delusions of moral superiority. Thae fact is the you civvies are much much worse than any ADF now or in the past.

Sadly the ADF still has to recruit from the filth that is the Australian civilian male.

Something to be very pound of hey HB, read the article before you post anymore horsesh1t and discuss what I have posted instead of just ignoring the evidence to suit your own ignorant bias.

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/national/australias-sexual-assault-sha...

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Reply #24 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Rape, intimidation, bastardisation ...

Just another Wednesday night in the ADF.

No surprises.

And how excactly would you know, since you never actually served a single minute in your life.

Or are you just flinging your own faeces like the rest of the chimps here?

Just remember all those little scumbags were all Auustralian civilians regiularly raping 1 in 6 Australian women, something you civvies should be very proud of, wouldn't you say?

The ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men.

Nothing to be proud of there, old boy.

You seems to demand a high level of factual evidence from others and base entire semantic arguments to prove some cretinous point of view; but you are pretty free and easy with the truth here.

I won't be holding my breath for a lying little turd like yourself to 'man up' with some evidence ya loser. Grin

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Reply #26 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:07pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Rape, intimidation, bastardisation ...

Just another Wednesday night in the ADF.

No surprises.

And how excactly would you know, since you never actually served a single minute in your life.

Or are you just flinging your own faeces like the rest of the chimps here?

Just remember all those little scumbags were all Auustralian civilians regiularly raping 1 in 6 Australian women, something you civvies should be very proud of, wouldn't you say?

The ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men.

Nothing to be proud of there, old boy.

You seems to demand a high level of factual evidence from others and base entire semantic arguments to prove some cretinous point of view; but you are pretty free and easy with the truth here.

I won't be holding my breath for a lying little turd like yourself to 'man up' with some evidence ya loser. Grin

Perhaps I've made a mistake. Sorry.

Maybe what I should have said was "the ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men, and the occasional woman".

Apology accepted?

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Reply #27 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:10pm

... wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:05pm:

1 in 6 eh? What a load of poo.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/publications/tandi2/tandi359-3.png

The victimisation rates from the CSS for sexual assault (all persons) in 2002 and 2005 were comparable, at 0.2 and 0.3 percent respectively. Rates for females remained steady between 1998 and 2002 at 0.4 percent.

It's a looooooooong way from 1 in 250 to 1 in 6.

This is from the article, and based on the fktards Ive met over the years I wouldn't be least bit surprised what the average civvie does for 'fun'

AUSTRALIAN women are being sexually assaulted at twice the rate of women worldwide.

Despite our greater gender equality, we rank third after the war-torn Congo and the southern African nations of Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe for rates of sexual assault against women.

One in six Australian women have been the victim of a sexual assault by a non-partner, compared to one in 14 women around the world, a new study shows.

Mind you the reporter might have the figures updated in the last 10 years or so.

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Reply #28 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Rape, intimidation, bastardisation ...

Just another Wednesday night in the ADF.

No surprises.

And how excactly would you know, since you never actually served a single minute in your life.

Or are you just flinging your own faeces like the rest of the chimps here?

Just remember all those little scumbags were all Auustralian civilians regiularly raping 1 in 6 Australian women, something you civvies should be very proud of, wouldn't you say?

The ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men.

Nothing to be proud of there, old boy.

You seems to demand a high level of factual evidence from others and base entire semantic arguments to prove some cretinous point of view; but you are pretty free and easy with the truth here.

I won't be holding my breath for a lying little turd like yourself to 'man up' with some evidence ya loser. Grin

Perhaps I've made a mistake. Sorry.

Maybe what I should have said was "the ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men, and the occasional woman".

Apology accepted?

So the semantic dkhead is going full retard striaght up, good one chimp.

Also reffering to someone as a lying little turd isn't an apology, ya loser Grin

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Reply #29 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Rape, intimidation, bastardisation ...

Just another Wednesday night in the ADF.

No surprises.

And how excactly would you know, since you never actually served a single minute in your life.

Or are you just flinging your own faeces like the rest of the chimps here?

Just remember all those little scumbags were all Auustralian civilians regiularly raping 1 in 6 Australian women, something you civvies should be very proud of, wouldn't you say?

The ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men.

Nothing to be proud of there, old boy.

You seems to demand a high level of factual evidence from others and base entire semantic arguments to prove some cretinous point of view; but you are pretty free and easy with the truth here.

I won't be holding my breath for a lying little turd like yourself to 'man up' with some evidence ya loser. Grin

Perhaps I've made a mistake. Sorry.

Maybe what I should have said was "the ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men, and the occasional woman".

Apology accepted?

In which case you would be misinformed, or delusional.

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