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Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm

It's interesting, no comment on the ongoing ADF abuse scandal. Appears it's a subject too hard for some?

I believe Datalife was at ADFA during the 1990s when it was all coming out. Rape, intimidation, bastardisation and other goings on. Cadets suffering nervous breakdowns, being forced out, seeing their tormentors progress up the ranks without any consequences. All revealed in the recent 4 Corners program.

And yet not a peep here. Much more fun for the militarists to talk about how big a danger China is or whether the latest military toys are best or worse. All rotting from the inside though. Cheesy

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Reply #1 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 5:45am

Well here's my comment, find them, charge them, and send them back to civvie street from whence they came.

What is more than acceptable in civvie street, will never be accepted by the mainstream ADF.

Pity the ADF has such a violent sexual abusive pool of sub standard humans to choose from.

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/national/australias-sexual-assault-sha...

Well done Australia soemthing we excel at other than sport.

Hope you got what you wanted as far as participation in this discussion.

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Reply #2 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:37am

Participation?

Where's DL? I'm surprised he, as an ADFA veteran has not commented yet. Seems he is far more interested in attacking:

a) Muslims
b) Me
c) People who post at D&R.

Strange, here is someone who claims first hand experience of the culture and atmosphere of ADFA during the 1990s and he's silent on the topic. I wonder why?

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What is more than acceptable in civvie street, will never be accepted by the mainstream ADF.

The evidence appears to suggest the reverse. Violent, aggressive, rapists seem to have found a ready home in the defence forces.

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Reply #3 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:06pm

The report on HMAS LEEUWIN was released today. I was at Leeuwin in 1968, and I know from personal experience that this abuse occurred. Did it occur to the level some have stated? If it did, I didn't see it, but I did some some examples that I will never forget in my life

http://www.defenceabusetaskforce.gov.au/HMAS-Leeuwin/Pages/default.aspx

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Interesting, no comment on the ongoing ADF abuse Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:39pm ... wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:16pm: meh. Excusing this behaviour? Stop being an apologist!
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Interesting, no comment on the ongoing ADF abuse Reply #6 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 3:13pm Don't need to excuse or apologise anything - What happens in the ADF stays in the ADF. Nothing to do with you or I. Geez it'd be nice if front bottoms wouldn't pretend they care about the people involved so much as they care about throwing some poo on the ADF.
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Reply #7 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:05pm

|dev|null wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

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What is more than acceptable in civvie street, will never be accepted by the mainstream ADF.

The evidence appears to suggest the reverse. Violent, aggressive, rapists seem to have found a ready home in the defence forces.

So you don't want to discuss anything, you just want to throw sh1t?

Those lttle scumbags come from you wonderful civilians, and if you didn't bother reading my story, it, in a nutshell, does not paint s pretty picture of Australian civilians. You lot are some nasty little rapists and general filth, so I wouldn't throw too much sh1t if I were you.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143437 Gender:	Re: Interesting, no comment on the ongoing ADF abuse Reply #8 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:14pm \|dev\|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm: Rape, intimidation, bastardisation ... Just another Wednesday night in the ADF. No surprises.
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Reply #9 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Rape, intimidation, bastardisation ...

Just another Wednesday night in the ADF.

No surprises.

And how excactly would you know, since you never actually served a single minute in your life.

Or are you just flinging your own faeces like the rest of the chimps here?

Just remember all those little scumbags were all Auustralian civilians regiularly raping 1 in 6 Australian women, something you civvies should be very proud of, wouldn't you say?

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Reply #10 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:48am

... wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

Don't need to excuse or apologise anything - What happens in the ADF stays in the ADF. Nothing to do with you or I.

No, what happens in the ADF is of deep concern to the Australian community. The ADF is not separate from Australian society it is a part of Australian society and the relationship is a very deep one indeed. Not only are members of the ADF drawn from Australian society, Australian society has invested massive amounts of prestige, time and money in venerating the ADF. Our national prestige is deeply tied to the image of the Australian soldier/sailor/airman. Our national image is founded upon the ANZAC legend. The ADF is not separate from Australian society, it is deeply embedded in it. You simply cannot wash your hands of it.

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Geez it'd be nice if nice people wouldn't pretend they care about the people involved so much as they care about throwing some poo on the ADF.

Australian society expects the ADF to maintain the standards that civilians are set to obey plus be even better as upholders of the nation's prestige. The ADF appears, from the latest reports to have been running riot, abusing, raping, intimidating, destroying the young lives which were entrusted to it. Any organisation that eats its own, is doomed to failure. Shocked

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Reply #11 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:14pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Rape, intimidation, bastardisation ...

Just another Wednesday night in the ADF.

No surprises.

And how excactly would you know, since you never actually served a single minute in your life.

Or are you just flinging your own faeces like the rest of the chimps here?

Just remember all those little scumbags were all Auustralian civilians regiularly raping 1 in 6 Australian women, something you civvies should be very proud of, wouldn't you say?

The ADF chaps are regularly raping 1 in 2 men.

Nothing to be proud of there, old boy.

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Reply #12 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 10:56am

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

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What is more than acceptable in civvie street, will never be accepted by the mainstream ADF.

The evidence appears to suggest the reverse. Violent, aggressive, rapists seem to have found a ready home in the defence forces.

So you don't want to discuss anything, you just want to throw sh1t?

Simply because you don't like the statement does not mean the statement is not valid or part of "the discussion". If sh!t sticks, you have a problem. The outcome from the various inquiries is starting to come home to roost. You can't ignore those outcomes.

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Those lttle scumbags come from you wonderful civilians, and if you didn't bother reading my story, it, in a nutshell, does not paint s pretty picture of Australian civilians. You lot are some nasty little rapists and general filth, so I wouldn't throw too much sh1t if I were you.

Those scumbags were entrusted with the youths they were supposedly training to be defenders of the nation. They were representatives of the ADF. Their superiors either did nothing or actively conspired to cover up this criminal behaviour or at absolute worse were active participants. Now that the wider society is aware of this criminal behaviour it is demanding that something be done about it. Obviously, wider society does not tolerate such behaviour. Why did the ADF? Obviously it has lost sight of its responsibility to not only it's own personnel but wider society. Grin

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Reply #13 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:05am

LOL just noticed this thread. You bozos are desperate, Brainless mentions me by name and has shots at me on a forum he owns and I am not a member of.

His idiot identikit "brother" draws my attention to it over here by posting a link then follows it up by starting a thread over here where he mentions me twice by name taunting me to respond. Presumably my answers here will be reported or followed over there by Brainless who likes to pretend he ignores me.

Frigging hilarious.

If you want to generate a bit of debate over there in your cosy luvvie love in forum all you needed to do was ask me nicely to become a member.

But the answer will still be no, not keen on forums owned by censorious softcock dictators.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143437 Gender:	Re: Interesting, no comment on the ongoing ADF abuse Reply #14 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:18am Datalife wrote on Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:05am: But the answer will still be no, not keen on forums owned by censorious softcock dictators. Yes, I can see why that wouldn't be suited to your tastes. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
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