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Reply #195 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:33pm

G'Day ..

did Hokey Hockey lie..??

Yes... absolutely lied his big tush off... and continues to do so. As do his fellow BS artists. How so..??

Well...... He convinced you all to vote him in... !! Tongue

Gullible or what..?

when Australia was a showcase for ..'favourable economic stats.. compared to.. well name any other Country? that did better ..GFC etc.. can you name one better..???

but.. sheesh .. you believe/ed that we are in dire eco straits.. so you vote in THIS MOB ..??

Fheads is all I can say Tongue

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Re: Pensioners To Consider Protest Rally
Reply #197 - Jun 19^th, 2014 at 11:39pm

I don't think Hockey has one real idea what he is talking about in any way - if it were not for his feather-bedded life to date, he'd be driving a cab or similar...

He is also so dumb that he still goes to these smoke-filled closed shop meetings of the converted faithful and utters the most inane things that are highly offensive to 80% of the Australian people. Like Labor, he is locked in his strident student days and has yet to connect with the real world where such stupid comments as 'we're a country of leaners' or 'we're part of Asia' or whatever are highly offensive to those of us who built this safe haven for his like.

Living proof that brains are no requirement for politics and that the only thing that counts is the certainty of one's own superiority.

Good God - what have you elected to prey upon us this time, people of Australia?

I voted for NONE of these clowns nor will I next time.

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Re: Pensioners To Consider Protest Rally
Reply #199 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 12:25am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:15am:

[quote author=Tony link=1401874568/179#179 date=1403046517]Uni students are also marching. . .

Not the Asian engineering students I bet, they'll be in the library studying.

uni students marching in solidarity with pensioners is akin to the jews marching in solidarity with the Nazis.

cant the uni students see that the pensioners got free uni, free health, cheap housing and now want to lean on the younger generation and use their "grey power" to make sure every time their has to be budget sacrifice , its the younger generation who feel the pain.
The selfish old pensioner is the natural enemy of the uni student.

Any uni student who joins a pensioner rally is a full blown half-wit

Why can't we support both?

Think carefully.
What are the pensioners rallying about.
they want their pensions indexed at a higher rate,
they want exemption from any co payment, they want their discounts on power, water and rego to continue.

No...WRONG they don't want their pensions indexed at a higher rate.... LIAR

They want to keep the current assessment regime...

Abbott et al,, want to move to a LOWER incremental factor THAN ALREADY EXISTS.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

Sounds a tad unfair to me. why..??

sOMETHING TO REMEMBER HERE.....
for you and your ilk....

STUDENTS have their lives ahead of them......
PENSIONERS have paid their dues, are too old to be EMPLOYED... , and should not be so disrespected by the likes of you.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Pensioners To Consider Protest Rally Reply #200 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 1:35am Further more.... the predicament facing students is being made much more difficult by this government... don't say it .. don't dare try to blame pensioners, for what this government is doing to students. Listened to Pyne lately...???
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Re: Pensioners To Consider Protest Rally
Reply #201 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 7:16am

Emma wrote on Jun 20^th, 2014 at 12:25am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:15am:

[quote author=Tony link=1401874568/179#179 date=1403046517]Uni students are also marching. . .

Not the Asian engineering students I bet, they'll be in the library studying.

uni students marching in solidarity with pensioners is akin to the jews marching in solidarity with the Nazis.

cant the uni students see that the pensioners got free uni, free health, cheap housing and now want to lean on the younger generation and use their "grey power" to make sure every time their has to be budget sacrifice , its the younger generation who feel the pain.
The selfish old pensioner is the natural enemy of the uni student.

Any uni student who joins a pensioner rally is a full blown half-wit

Why can't we support both?

Think carefully.
What are the pensioners rallying about.
they want their pensions indexed at a higher rate,
they want exemption from any co payment, they want their discounts on power, water and rego to continue.

No...WRONG they don't want their pensions indexed at a higher rate.... LIAR

They want to keep the current assessment regime...

Abbott et al,, want to move to a LOWER incremental factor THAN ALREADY EXISTS.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

Sounds a tad unfair to me. why..??

sOMETHING TO REMEMBER HERE.....
for you and your ilk....

STUDENTS have their lives ahead of them......
PENSIONERS have paid their dues, are too old to be EMPLOYED... , and should not be so disrespected by the likes of you.

Yes dear they do want to keep the current arrangement which sees pensions indexed at a HIGHER rate then CPI.

now as for this fallacious argument that pensioners have paid their dues Cheesy

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The taxes paid by pensioners throughout their working lives were used to pay for services given to them during their working lives.
So when we see a deficit of 350 billion, it becomes obvious that not only have they not paid their dues but they are in arrears.

now the next generation get to see
12 % of their salary denied to them as it is put into untouchable super
pay for the pensioners who enjoy tax breaks on the family home and cheap discounted services
pay HECS that the boomers never did.
pay for more expensive fuel because the boomers used most of it
pay off the arrears the pensioners accumulated

and when they retire they will be on their own with their own super and they get to work 5 years longer then the boomers did.

So much for leaving things better for the next generation.

What they have done is be self indulgent leaners and now want an over burdened, stressed out, younger generation to tackle
High energy prices
Record housing debt
Record long commutes to work
HECS accumulating interest
Retiring at 70

I think we can see why uni students should really be turning the megaphones onto the pensioners standing next to them and giving them a big earful

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Re: Pensioners To Consider Protest Rally
Reply #202 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 8:01am

Emma wrote on Jun 20^th, 2014 at 12:25am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:15am:

[quote author=Tony link=1401874568/179#179 date=1403046517]Uni students are also marching. . .

Not the Asian engineering students I bet, they'll be in the library studying.

uni students marching in solidarity with pensioners is akin to the jews marching in solidarity with the Nazis.

cant the uni students see that the pensioners got free uni, free health, cheap housing and now want to lean on the younger generation and use their "grey power" to make sure every time their has to be budget sacrifice , its the younger generation who feel the pain.
The selfish old pensioner is the natural enemy of the uni student.

Any uni student who joins a pensioner rally is a full blown half-wit

Why can't we support both?

Think carefully.
What are the pensioners rallying about.
they want their pensions indexed at a higher rate,
they want exemption from any co payment, they want their discounts on power, water and rego to continue.

No...WRONG they don't want their pensions indexed at a higher rate.... LIAR

They want to keep the current assessment regime...

Abbott et al,, want to move to a LOWER incremental factor THAN ALREADY EXISTS.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

Sounds a tad unfair to me. why..??

sOMETHING TO REMEMBER HERE.....
for you and your ilk....

STUDENTS have their lives ahead of them......
PENSIONERS have paid their dues, are too old to be EMPLOYED... , and should not be so disrespected by the likes of you.

This midden of a government wants to index pensions to the CPI the same as Howard did to N0-Start.

We NEED to go the other way, and change the N0-Start indexation to the higher rate of the pension.

It's a no-brainer, but the ones with no brains oppose it.

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Re: Pensioners To Consider Protest Rally
Reply #203 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 8:06am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 20^th, 2014 at 7:16am:

Emma wrote on Jun 20^th, 2014 at 12:25am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:39am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 10:15am:

[quote author=Tony link=1401874568/179#179 date=1403046517]Uni students are also marching. . .

Not the Asian engineering students I bet, they'll be in the library studying.

uni students marching in solidarity with pensioners is akin to the jews marching in solidarity with the Nazis.

cant the uni students see that the pensioners got free uni, free health, cheap housing and now want to lean on the younger generation and use their "grey power" to make sure every time their has to be budget sacrifice , its the younger generation who feel the pain.
The selfish old pensioner is the natural enemy of the uni student.

Any uni student who joins a pensioner rally is a full blown half-wit

Why can't we support both?

Think carefully.
What are the pensioners rallying about.
they want their pensions indexed at a higher rate,
they want exemption from any co payment, they want their discounts on power, water and rego to continue.

No...WRONG they don't want their pensions indexed at a higher rate.... LIAR

They want to keep the current assessment regime...

Abbott et al,, want to move to a LOWER incremental factor THAN ALREADY EXISTS.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

Sounds a tad unfair to me. why..??

sOMETHING TO REMEMBER HERE.....
for you and your ilk....

STUDENTS have their lives ahead of them......
PENSIONERS have paid their dues, are too old to be EMPLOYED... , and should not be so disrespected by the likes of you.

Yes dear they do want to keep the current arrangement which sees pensions indexed at a HIGHER rate then CPI.

now as for this fallacious argument that pensioners have paid their dues Cheesy

.
The taxes paid by pensioners throughout their working lives were used to pay for services given to them during their working lives.
So when we see a deficit of 350 billion, it becomes obvious that not only have they not paid their dues but they are in arrears.

now the next generation get to see
12 % of their salary denied to them as it is put into untouchable super
pay for the pensioners who enjoy tax breaks on the family home and cheap discounted services
pay HECS that the boomers never did.
pay for more expensive fuel because the boomers used most of it
pay off the arrears the pensioners accumulated

and when they retire they will be on their own with their own super and they get to work 5 years longer then the boomers did.

So much for leaving things better for the next generation.

What they have done is be self indulgent leaners and now want an over burdened, stressed out, younger generation to tackle
High energy prices
Record housing debt
Record long commutes to work
HECS accumulating interest
Retiring at 70

I think we can see why uni students should really be turning the megaphones onto the pensioners standing next to them and giving them a big earful

Utterly and totally untrue.

You may like to believe they haven't.

But you'd be wrong.

As you almost always are, when this subject comes up for discussion.

I suppose you also think the dole isn't a right????

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Reply #204 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am

Well , no, its not a right.
in Germany, you are expected to be supported by relatives if you fall on hard times. Same as china.

Note these 2 countries are doing very well.

I'm fascinated by this argument that pensioners have, in some way, paid tax which is now in some big account , waiting to be paid back to them.
SOB and I had this argument and he was adamant the feds had a big account full of the tax you paid throughout your working life, out of which they paid you your pension.
He must know something I don't, maybe he shared this information with you, emma and pansi.
Do tell

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Reply #205 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 6:14pm

are you an idiot..??

The only thing you say worth responding to is your opinion about the pensioners owing the Country... totally skewed thinking... IMO.

and ... YES ... of course.... there are FUND(s) reserved for paying many benefits to the older non-working citizens are you that ignorant..??

You seem to believe that all income to the federal govt ends up in one big slushy bowl,, just mixing around, waiting to be siphoned off for one thing or the other. Grin

WRONG...

think about it...

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Reply #206 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 6:15pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

Well , no, its not a right.
in Germany, you are expected to be supported by relatives if you fall on hard times. Same as china.

Note these 2 countries are doing very well.

I'm fascinated by this argument that pensioners have, in some way, paid tax which is now in some big account , waiting to be paid back to them.
SOB and I had this argument and he was adamant the feds had a big account full of the tax you paid throughout your working life, out of which they paid you your pension.
He must know something I don't, maybe he shared this information with you, emma and pansi.
Do tell

Well yes, I'm afraid it IS.

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Reply #207 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 8:09pm

I like that you repeat this ..... it reflects the true Oz spirit... and pretty well puts paid to these defenders of ... rape the poor.... Sad

Such a sad thing that our youth are so poorly educated that they do NOT UNDERSTAND the significance of such as quoted, and can only think of the economic GAIN..( which, just quietly, is a bag of horse pucky)
... not the SOCIAL LOSS..!!!

No .. I doubt these bombastic fools could talk to you about OUR HISTORY as a nation.. when we became one.. and why?

Could they explain the importance of Barcaldine, shearers, the Tree of Knowledge.. ??

I doubt it very much.

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Reply #208 - Jun 20^th, 2014 at 10:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 20^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

Well , no, its not a right.
in Germany, you are expected to be supported by relatives if you fall on hard times. Same as china.

Note these 2 countries are doing very well.

I'm fascinated by this argument that pensioners have, in some way, paid tax which is now in some big account , waiting to be paid back to them.
SOB and I had this argument and he was adamant the feds had a big account full of the tax you paid throughout your working life, out of which they paid you your pension.
He must know something I don't, maybe he shared this information with you, emma and pansi.
Do tell

How would you go about enforcing that?

Only in the last generation or two have Australians stopped the barbaric practice of throwing their kids out on the street with nothing and telling them to go and make their way in this lucky country.

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