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rabbitoh08 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1528 Gender:	Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles Reply #45 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:27pm lee wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:23pm: rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:19pm: ARe there any other alternatives? According to Trenberth and others - El Ninos. El Ninos are causing global warming on a multi-decadal scale? Really? Don't make things up
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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #46 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:30pm

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:26pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 3:44pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

Well PZ, before the Greens would even look at campaigning against chemtrails, someone would have to prove that such a thing really exists. Which has not (and cannot) happen.

CHEMTRAILZ OHMAGERD!!! CHEMTRAiLZ

The left proving they are complete nut jobs, one idiot conspiracy theory at a time Cheesy

You fellow travellers must be very proud to have you n their side, I bet. Wink

I think you'll find old PZ whatever is a fully fledged right wing nut-job.

One of yours I'm afraid.

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles Reply #47 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:31pm Could a mod move the off-topic Chemtrail stuff to another thread, like the Epic ChemFAILS one in General. I think it's distracting from the topic Thanks
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IQSRLOW Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1618	Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles Reply #48 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:32pm Not from what he has been writing. It's typical left wing moonbattery. It could have been written by the top echelons of the a greens it is so leftwing.
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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #49 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:32pm

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:30pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:26pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 3:44pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

Well PZ, before the Greens would even look at campaigning against chemtrails, someone would have to prove that such a thing really exists. Which has not (and cannot) happen.

CHEMTRAILZ OHMAGERD!!! CHEMTRAiLZ

The left proving they are complete nut jobs, one idiot conspiracy theory at a time Cheesy

You fellow travellers must be very proud to have you n their side, I bet. Wink

I think you'll find old PZ whatever is a fully fledged right wing nut-job.

One of yours I'm afraid.

Leave out the 'right wing' bit and you'd be about accurate.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #50 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:34pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:31pm:

Could a mod move the off-topic Chemtrail stuff to another thread, like the Epic ChemFAILS one in General.

I think it's distracting from the topic

Thanks

Are you sure? They both are the product of wild imaginations and unproven. Seems they have a bit in common.

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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #51 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:48pm

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:30pm:

IQSRLOW wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:26pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 3:44pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

Well PZ, before the Greens would even look at campaigning against chemtrails, someone would have to prove that such a thing really exists. Which has not (and cannot) happen.

CHEMTRAILZ OHMAGERD!!! CHEMTRAiLZ

The left proving they are complete nut jobs, one idiot conspiracy theory at a time Cheesy

You fellow travellers must be very proud to have you n their side, I bet. Wink

I think you'll find old PZ whatever is a fully fledged right wing nut-job.

One of yours I'm afraid.

That'll explain why he hates Abbott and the Government then eh... Cheesy

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21678 Gender:	Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles Reply #52 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:51pm rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:27pm: Don't make things up Just one paper- there are others- http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/MET/Faculty/bwang/bw/paper/wang36.pdf
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IQSRLOW Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1618	Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles Reply #53 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:56pm lee wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:51pm: rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:27pm: Don't make things up Just one paper- there are others- http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/MET/Faculty/bwang/bw/paper/wang36.pdf Shhhh, don't bring facts into this. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be too much to bear.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles Reply #54 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 6:02pm Heard the other day that the May hottest temp crap was just that. Apparently it was just a Sydney thing. Happy for anyone to find up to date data which BOM is reluctant to put forward.
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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #55 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 6:08pm

____ wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 10:00am:

Australia's past two years the hottest on record, Climate Council says

Australia has experienced its hottest two-year period ever recorded as the country feels the impact of climate change, a report released today finds.

Get out from under your bed Green and stop bed wetting.
And stop blaming Abbott for the weather before he was even elected.
You know Labor's and the Greens carbon tax which has been around for some years now will change the weather and save the planet.
So stop panicking.
I'm feeling cooler just thinking about it. Grin

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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #56 - Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 6:16pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 6:08pm:

____ wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 10:00am:

Australia's past two years the hottest on record, Climate Council says

Australia has experienced its hottest two-year period ever recorded as the country feels the impact of climate change, a report released today finds.

Get out from under your bed Green and stop bed wetting.
And stop blaming Abbott for the weather before he was even elected.
You know Labor's and the Greens carbon tax which has been around for some years now will change the weather and save the planet.
So stop panicking.
I'm feeling cooler just thinking about it. Grin

Climate ... you understand the concept and the difference with weather?

i.e a climate of scientific denial verses a weather of scientific denial.

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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #58 - Jun 3^rd, 2014 at 10:09am

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 4:58pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 4:04pm:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 12:47pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 12:33pm:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 12:27pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 11:17am:

____ wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 10:00am:

Looks like the next election will be over AGW !

Is there going to be a "world" election?

LOL

Great rains along the entire MDB catchment over the weekend. From Far Nth NSW to the Vic ALPs.

Awesome hey?

And interesting to see the SOI moving higher into positive, don't ya reckon?!!

On which planet is "the SOI moving higher into positive"? Not this one:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soi.gif
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soi2.shtml

The tropical Pacific Ocean continues a general trend toward El Niño, with just over half of the climate models surveyed by the Bureau suggesting El Niño thresholds will be exceeded by August. An El Niño ALERT remains in place, indicating at least a 70% chance of an El Niño developing in 2014.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/

Elders is more up to date, it is half way through 2014 you know... Shocked

Anyway, the SOI is in positive and that's a good thing. Been in + territory for the last 6 readings. The last 2 reading higher than the 3rd last.

Let's hope it stays there. Cool

I gave you the BOM data to May 2014. It is exactly the same data you will get from Elders.

SOI is essentially neutral at the moment - varying between slightly positive and slightly negative.

However, as quoted for you earlier, The tropical Pacific Ocean continues a general trend toward El Niño, with just over half of the climate models surveyed by the Bureau suggesting El Niño thresholds will be exceeded by August

El Nino is coming. Probably sooner than later.

OK you must be looking at the weekly stats.

I was looking at the monthly average – and the last 6 are all positive.

Looking at the weekly results, my comment...

“And interesting to see the SOI moving higher into positive, don't ya reckon” is even more correct, moving from

–12

to almost

+10

.

So I’ll try and stay positive, you can pray for the worst and make crap up….. Sad

The latest update from 20 May says:

Tropical Pacific Ocean edges further toward El Niño

The tropical Pacific Ocean continues a general trend toward El Niño, with just over half of the climate models surveyed by the Bureau suggesting El Niño thresholds will be exceeded by August.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/

Not sure how you can read into that:
“And interesting to see the SOI moving higher into positive, don't ya reckon”

Blaa blaa blaa

-12

to

+10

- are you that dumb?

Huh

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Re: Climate Heat Record While Abbott Fiddles
Reply #59 - Jun 4^th, 2014 at 12:00am

lee wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:51pm:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Don't make things up

Just one paper- there are others-

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/MET/Faculty/bwang/bw/paper/wang36.pdf

Yes - that is a paper about interdecadal changes in El Nino.

Where does it say that El Nino is responsible for the observerved global warming of recent decades.
And how?

Can you explain?

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