lee wrote on May 28
th, 2014 at 7:34pm:
ah the satellite data.
But according to the reviewer on the recent Bengtsson paper -
'the Otto et al forcing is deliberately "adjusted" to represent more closely recent observations, whereas AR5 has not put so much weight on these satellite observations, due to still persisting potential problems with this new technology'
So can we rely on the satellite data?
How much is the naturally occurring CO2? How much effect does this have compared to human emissions?
Total CO2 must equal natural plus human caused. I haven't seen this question answered anywhere,
From the above paper-
'Thus we have empirical evidence that increased CO2 is causing an enhanced greenhouse effect.'
But that is not the argument. The argument is "How much"?
'Between 1850 and 2010, the climate system accumulated a total net forcing energy of 140 x 1022 J with a 5-95% uncertainty range of 95-197 x 1022 J, corresponding to an average net radiative forcing of roughly 0.54 (0.36-0.76)Wm-2."'
There's that 5-95% uncertainty range again.
As for the satellite issues, there are some known problems with some aspects of the data they collect, which keep needing adjustment. They are however not the only measurements taken.
For a bit more insight take a
lookIn terms of Co2 emissions:
Quote:
Manmade CO2 emissions are much smaller than natural emissions. Consumption of vegetation by animals & microbes accounts for about 220 gigatonnes of CO2 per year. Respiration by vegetation emits around 220 gigatonnes. The ocean releases about 332 gigatonnes. In contrast, when you combine the effect of fossil fuel burning and changes in land use, human CO2 emissions are only around 29 gigatonnes per year. However, natural CO2 emissions (from the ocean and vegetation) are balanced by natural absorptions (again by the ocean and vegetation). Land plants absorb about 450 gigatonnes of CO2 per year and the ocean absorbs about 338 gigatonnes. This keeps atmospheric CO2 levels in rough balance. Human CO2 emissions upsets the natural balance.
About 40% of human CO2 emissions are being absorbed, mostly by vegetation and the oceans. The rest remains in the atmosphere. As a consequence, atmospheric CO2 is at its highest level in 15 to 20 million years (Tripati 2009). A natural change of 100ppm normally takes 5,000 to 20.000 years. The recent increase of 100ppm has taken just 120 years.
Additional confirmation that rising CO2 levels are due to human activity comes from examining the ratio of carbon isotopes (eg ? carbon atoms with differing numbers of neutrons) found in the atmosphere. Carbon 12 has 6 neutrons, carbon 13 has 7 neutrons. Plants have a lower C13/C12 ratio than in the atmosphere. If rising atmospheric CO2 comes from fossil fuels, the C13/C12 should be falling. Indeed this is what is occurring (Ghosh 2003). The C13/C12 ratio correlates with the trend in global emissions.
You do realise that they are still 95% certain that current warming is caused by humans. It's a range of certainty for specific scenarios, the 5% is for extreme situations with higher or lower warming.