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Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud
May 17^th, 2014 at 11:13am

With the rejection of a paper that Quote:

May be harmful

to the pseudo climate science, it has revealed that there is no concern at all because models and reality should not be compared.

Therefore, we can go on reality and ignore the fairyland of climate models and even more so these days, the reality is, is that the raw data is being homogenised into a fraudulent cool the past and warm the present debacle.

There is no global warming. Thanks goes to the climate change community for clarifying it.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/warmi...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/15/newsbytes-climate-science-mccarthyism/

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/C933

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #1 - May 17^th, 2014 at 6:47pm Looks like these pseudo climate scientists are falling apart as they get exposed for the bullying, hiding real science. http://notrickszone.com/2014/05/16/leaked-memo-on-climatology-exposes-growing-wo...
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Reply #2 - May 17^th, 2014 at 7:46pm

Yep, world famous climate scientist Andrew Bolt reports...what precisely? Roll Eyes

If you actually read those reports you'll see that it was merely 5 scientists questioning the accuracy of the current models, NOT their conclusions. Bolt obviously didn't bother doing so.
Although the media likes to report speculation as fact all reasonable people know, as do the modellers themselves, that predictions are only likely projections, no more, and that fluctuations in any given data set can, indeed should, be expected. These do not invalidate the data nor the conclusions drawn.
Glaciers are a simple measure of the worlds climate due to their nature and composition, and there the facts are highly visible and irrefutable, even for a pseudo-genius like the Bolter! Roll Eyes

http://www.skepticalscience.com/himalayan-glaciers-growing.htm

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Reply #3 - May 17^th, 2014 at 9:01pm

From the referees report detailing part of the reason-

' the Otto et al forcing is deliberately "adjusted" to represent more closely recent observations, whereas AR5 has not put so much weight on these satellite observations, due to still persisting potential problems with this new technology'

http://ioppublishing.org/newsDetails/statement-from-iop-publishing-on-story-in-t...

So it's not the models that are wrong but the satellite data.

But apparently they are only potential problems, so we must assume they have no proof of such.

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hazy123 Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 404 Gender:	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #4 - May 18^th, 2014 at 9:19am B-b-b-ut I thought the 'science was settled'. You mean it is still a debate? Oh, fiddlesticks!
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21599 Gender:	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #5 - May 18^th, 2014 at 12:16pm And that of course is a contradiction of IPCC 2013 - where they used an "expert panel" for projections because the models were running too hot.
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austranger Gold Member Offline Opinionated Sod Posts: 1506 adelaide Gender:	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #6 - May 18^th, 2014 at 12:30pm hazy123 wrote on May 18^th, 2014 at 9:19am: B-b-b-ut I thought the 'science was settled'. You mean it is still a debate? Oh, fiddlesticks! The science is settled, it's only the fine details they're debating. Too many cooks in the kitchen, get it?
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Sparky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1338 Gender:	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #7 - May 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm oh,of course they're going to get false readings if they take them in a kitchen. duh
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austranger Gold Member Offline Opinionated Sod Posts: 1506 adelaide Gender:	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #8 - May 18^th, 2014 at 12:42pm Sparky wrote on May 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm: oh,of course they're going to get false readings if they take them in a kitchen. duh Groan!
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #9 - May 18^th, 2014 at 1:31pm jEVONS pARADOX GIVES DIMINISHING PRODUCTIVITY JUST ADD FOSSIL FOOLS
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #10 - May 18^th, 2014 at 6:54pm
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #11 - May 24^th, 2014 at 10:28am http://i.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/23/1400844133799/94d22e69-787e-4f04-9ee2-baf9c4212f35-1020x612.jpegwidth=620&height=-&quality=95
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Kytro Gold Member Offline Blasphemy: a victimless crime Posts: 3409 Adelaide Gender:	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #12 - May 25^th, 2014 at 12:03pm So because one paper gets rejected, suddenly there is a conspiracy and the rejected paper is really true? What you are suggesting is next to impossible (having that many scientists collude to hide the truth). Here is what the publisher had to say about it.
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Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud
Reply #13 - May 26^th, 2014 at 11:15am

Kytro wrote on May 25^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:

Here is what the publisher had to say about it.

You did read it - right?

' i.e. the Otto et al forcing is deliberately "adjusted" to represent more closely recent observations, whereas AR5 has not put so much weight on these satellite observations, due to still persisting potential problems with this new technology'

So the satellites are wrong and the models are right? If the data is different to the supposition the data is wrong- adjust as necessary.

So why did the IPCC need an 'expert panel' as opposed the the models?

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Pseudo climate science gatekeeping reveals fraud Reply #14 - May 26^th, 2014 at 11:55am Hottest May on record in Sydney, and what does our LNP leaders do... Halt all climate change research, and increase number of chaplins in schools. "Prayer" seems to be the only answer.
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