Australian Politics Forum - Why the political left wont confront islam ?

Mattywisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1373 Gender:	Re: The Political left and Islam Reply #15 - May 16^th, 2014 at 8:49pm Well that is the case. The only problem is backing out sharia law before we all get strung up for not following a pedo.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 99539	Re: The Political left and Islam Reply #16 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:08pm I say we act quick and stop messing about. Let’s string them ALL up like the Christmas turkeys they are. Muslims, lefties, every last one. Unless you blokes are poofters or something?
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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: The Political left and Islam Reply #17 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:26pm stryder wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm: From what I observe and read is that leftists or lefties always seem to not want to criticize Islam to the same extent as they do Christianity and christians What a load of crap.
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Re: The Political left and Islam
Reply #18 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:42pm

Frances wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 11:26pm:

stryder wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

From what I observe and read is that leftists or lefties always seem to not want to criticize Islam to the same extent as they do Christianity and christians

What a load of crap.

Actually his post seemed pretty spot on to what actually happens.

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hazy123 Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 404 Gender:	Re: The Political left and Islam Reply #19 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:02am Isnt it funny how muslims get sniffy when people dont tiptoe around their medieval religion as the socialist criminals have been conditioned to do. At least its better than terrorism.
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Reply #20 - May 17^th, 2014 at 7:56am

Frances wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 11:26pm:

stryder wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

From what I observe and read is that leftists or lefties always seem to not want to criticize Islam to the same extent as they do Christianity and christians

What a load of crap.

For a small subset this is true. Brian Ross springs to mind. He would whine constantly about anti Muslim bigotry, then try to change every subject about Islam by blaming Christians for the inquisition.

Then there are a lot of people who reflexively associate any criticism of Islam with minority issues or racism. In this case it is more lack of familiarity with the issues. Our society is familiar with Christianity and it's issues. I think Karnal once tried to justify himself by saying he was familiar with Christianity but not Islam, therefor could not form an opinion.

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Re: The Political left and Islam
Reply #21 - May 17^th, 2014 at 9:56am

Frances wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 11:26pm:

stryder wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

From what I observe and read is that leftists or lefties always seem to not want to criticize Islam to the same extent as they do Christianity and christians

What a load of crap.

How so ??, there is enough evidence to suggest that it is sooo, i mean lefties have so much courage attacking a religion that doesnt fight back, but with Islam what a deafening silence except that american comedian bill maher the only leftie i know who sticks to principles that lefties very often fail to do

Bill maher attacks christianity alot, but a least he also attacks and gives Islam a good serve as well fearlessly, which why i respect him at of all the lefties at least he tries not to be contradictive and a hypocrite like the rest of you lefties are with islam

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Reply #22 - May 17^th, 2014 at 10:19am

True Colours wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 7:58pm:

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Oh if that is the case true colors that its wrong and not the pacifist way to confront Islam then explain to me the logic why lefties confront and bash christians and christianity anyway the way they do, not very pacifist at all isnt it true colours, this just exposed the lefts hypocrisy once again

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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: The Political left and Islam Reply #23 - May 17^th, 2014 at 10:28am Check out this, bill maher and richard dawkins two lefties themselves explaining why the left wont confront Islam.
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hazy123 Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 404 Gender:	Re: Why the political left wont confront islam ? Reply #24 - May 17^th, 2014 at 12:32pm Some of these lefties have deep seeded resentment of australians because they always got picked last for the football team and they don't understand why their political science degree hasn't made them attractive to the opposite sex.
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Reply #25 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:29pm

hazy123 wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

Stryder, ill tell you something about media services and governments in Australia. The real deceit is not their agenda. The real deceit is that they claim to be about democracy, freedom and Australian values while working to divide this country.

Thats why to even question multicuralism and the truth about islam makes you a racist.

No it doesn't.

I am no racist.

People who call me [and people like me] 'racist' - ARE THEMSELVES BIGOTS.

Bigots are people who want to have control over the [local] political agenda/discourse, exclusively.

They want to control all public debate

- to the extent that such people [the intellectual fascists] will denigrate others - whenever others verbalise [make known] an opinion [i.e. a political opinion] that does not align with their own opinion(s).

Bigots are bullies,

and they are people who - demonstrably - have no viable counter-argument(s) that they can present.

So because their counter-argument(s)/position is so, so weak, their only viable option is to seek to gag the views of those who present views which do not align with their own views.

Bigots are intellectual fascists,

who seek to crush the expression of any views which they do not agree with.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS SELF REGULATING

Open societies do not fear the opinions of fools.
....they rather, EXPOSE and laugh at folly!

In any free and open society, where debate is free and open, if a 'position' is absurd, if an 'argument' is absurd,
...then the debater is [often] condemned to all, WITH HIS OWN WORDS.

And that result [i.e. the exposure of folly] is THE VERY FUNCTION, of free and open debate.

Free and open debate is meant to be A CONTEST OF IDEAS!
....where every folly is revealed.

And open debate is healthy, to all general freedoms in a society.

Whereas, lies are easily concealed in closed societies,
....*because* these closed societies are places where lies, and falsehood,
....ARE NEVER EXPOSED TO SCRUTINY, OR SPOKEN TRUTH.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22450 A cat with a view	Re: The Political left and Islam Reply #26 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:35pm Karnal wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 11:08pm: I say we act quick and stop messing about. Let’s string them ALL up like the Christmas turkeys they are. Muslims, lefties, every last one. He's not joking - ASIO. Honest!
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22450 A cat with a view	Re: The Political left and Islam Reply #27 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:38pm Frances wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 11:26pm: stryder wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm: From what I observe and read is that leftists or lefties always seem to not want to criticize Islam to the same extent as they do Christianity and christians What a load of crap. Read it again, Frances.
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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Why the political left wont confront islam ? Reply #28 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:46pm
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Re: The Political left and Islam
Reply #29 - May 17^th, 2014 at 10:56pm

Yadda wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Frances wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 11:26pm:

stryder wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

From what I observe and read is that leftists or lefties always seem to not want to criticize Islam to the same extent as they do Christianity and christians

What a load of crap.

Read it again, Frances.

I did, and I still think it's crap.

stryder wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 10:19am:

lefties confront and bash christians and christianity

I'm afraid I can't see where members of the political left as a whole do this sort of thing. I would suggest that the few that do it (other than that vile thing, Bill Maher, who does it for money) do it from the standpoint of Atheism rather than as a result of their political views.

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