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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #15 - May 15^th, 2014 at 4:43pm

Aussie wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:40pm:

John Smith wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Aussie wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

I wonder if FD could make a specific point of stickying that somewhere so we can always be reminded of it.

Someone show me how to do the running banner signature that DRaH & W1 use.

In fact we all should apply it Wink

It's your quote Sir Smithy, you don't mind that I've adopted it for my signature do you? Wink

Can you squeeze the link in, to avoid future argument about authenticity?

and make it easy for them?

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #16 - May 15^th, 2014 at 4:54pm

Aussie wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:40pm:

John Smith wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Aussie wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

I wonder if FD could make a specific point of stickying that somewhere so we can always be reminded of it.

Someone show me how to do the running banner signature that DRaH & W1 use.

In fact we all should apply it Wink

It's your quote Sir Smithy, you don't mind that I've adopted it for my signature do you? Wink

Can you squeeze the link in, to avoid future argument about authenticity?

You can hear the words from Mr Abbotts own mouth at 1.12 on the video posted in my 2nd post

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39135 Gender:	Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises Reply #17 - May 15^th, 2014 at 5:18pm Yeah......I've bookmarked it now. It is repositoried. Hehehe.
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14243 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises Reply #18 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:07pm . i
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises Reply #19 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:14pm HE DID STOP THE BOATS.. what did KRUDD DO.. oh thats right he got us into DEBT... not forgetting giving us over 50.000 more welfare recipients.....plus asylum seeker detention centres we will be maintaining for the next 50 years.. thanks krudd.
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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #20 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:39pm

I think we desperately need to deal with the here and now... Alpha and Bravo Companies cannot hold and Charlie Company is being over-run!

There is no point in comparing the rate or value of lies and fibs (core and non-core) from both sides - what we are being handed now is more than just lies - it is a violent abrogation of what these people were elected to do based on what they said they'd do.

"Call it! Broken Arrow!"

(damn - I wish they hadn't used footage of A-6s there when these didn't come online until 1968.... A-1s, A-4s, F-4s, T-28Ds, F-105s, F-100s yeah , maybe even A-5s - but A-6s?) Oh and the final airstrike was actually B-52s leveling the place..... not a coupla choppers with guns.. and anyone remember the A Shau? Send in the troops and find the little devils THEN seal off with artillery and bomb 'em - who not seal off first and bomb - then send in the troops to count bodies?)...

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises Reply #21 - May 17^th, 2014 at 2:49pm Dsmithy70 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 3:29pm: WEAK! But thanks for posting today's party room deflection WEAK??? If that post wasn't on steroids it would fall down.....
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john_g Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1549 Gender:	Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises Reply #22 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:03pm Both sides lie, yet hypocritically blame the other for lying while making up excuses, or deflecting, from their own lies. It's like their supporters, as shown by many on this very forum - they don't care when their sides lie, but won't let go when the other side lies. No integrity on either side.
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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #23 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:13pm

bogarde73 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Well let's talk about core promises and non-core promises.
If your core promise is to restore budget stability, which most commentators agree is necessary, there are going to be promises in relation to specific budget sectors that will be difficult to sustain. Agreed?

All politicians make & break promises.
That is their field of operations, their battleground. Which broken promises cause most casualties doesn't matter as much as who wins the war.

I agree, that is pretty much where we are now!
AND, IT IS WRONG, DEAD WRONG!

The thing is, we have now arrived at a line in the sand, only to ind that it's "quick Sand", on the other side of the line.

We either pull back & start the WHOLE SYSTEM HEADING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION OR WE ALL SINK INTO THE ABYSS!

Perhaps, ALL POLITICIANS should borrow a thought from the Law, which says -
I WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!
And, put it into action?
Either that or we will have to take our own action, BY VOTING OUT EVERY INCUMBENT, UNTIL THE POLITICIANS FINALLY CHANGE COURSE???

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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #24 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:30pm

The problem with your argument Bogey is it fails to articulate what both leaders said they would not do before being elected.....Where as Rudd did not say he would not do what he ultimately did, Abbott has done what he expressly ruled out before he was elected.....Abbott also refused to accept Rudd's mandate to introduce an ETS and used the Senate to block his policy making any policy subject to Senate approval.....Now Abbott expects the Senate to roll over and pass all his measures regardless of the merits and core values of opposition parties.....Abbott and Hockey have also added over 60 billion to the budget since the election and are blaming Labor so they can introduce their austerity measures that would never pass muster unless they created this false budget emergency.....If is not what you promise to do that matters as all policies are subject to Senate approval it is what you promise not to do, which is why I suspect you did not use Julia Gillard's "No carbon tax" promise as an example....All spin and no substance Mr Boggy!!!

Roll Eyes

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-06/has-the-government-doubled-the-budget-defi...

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59886 Here Gender:	Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises Reply #25 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:46pm bogarde73 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 3:31pm: I believe in keeping it straight and simple. Tell me where I'm wrong. Only with the facts.
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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #26 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:47pm

bogarde73 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Did Rudd promise the electors he would:
- increase the public service by about 24000
- increase the number of govt agencies by the truckload
- overspend & waste on school halls
- endanger lives with insulation
- encourage 50000 boat people, drowning untold numbers

NO! Well he should have. Might have changed a few votes don't you think?

Did Abbott promise to rein in spending and return budget stability & debt level?

YES! And that's exactly what he's doing. What he said he would.
Not all of it is nice and some of it needs a review which it no doubt will get in the House of Review.

What a load of dishonest rubbish.

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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #27 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:49pm

perceptions_now wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

bogarde73 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Well let's talk about core promises and non-core promises.
If your core promise is to restore budget stability, which most commentators agree is necessary, there are going to be promises in relation to specific budget sectors that will be difficult to sustain. Agreed?

All politicians make & break promises.
That is their field of operations, their battleground. Which broken promises cause most casualties doesn't matter as much as who wins the war.

I agree, that is pretty much where we are now!
AND, IT IS WRONG, DEAD WRONG!

The thing is, we have now arrived at a line in the sand, only to ind that it's "quick Sand", on the other side of the line.

We either pull back & start the WHOLE SYSTEM HEADING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION OR WE ALL SINK INTO THE ABYSS!

Perhaps, ALL POLITICIANS should borrow a thought from the Law, which says -
I WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!
And, put it into action?
Either that or we will have to take our own action, BY VOTING OUT EVERY INCUMBENT, UNTIL THE POLITICIANS FINALLY CHANGE COURSE???

And writing in big bold letters
make what you say more factual and much more worth listening to

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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #28 - May 17^th, 2014 at 3:56pm

Cliff48 wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 3:49pm:

perceptions_now wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

bogarde73 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Well let's talk about core promises and non-core promises.
If your core promise is to restore budget stability, which most commentators agree is necessary, there are going to be promises in relation to specific budget sectors that will be difficult to sustain. Agreed?

All politicians make & break promises.
That is their field of operations, their battleground. Which broken promises cause most casualties doesn't matter as much as who wins the war.

I agree, that is pretty much where we are now!
AND, IT IS WRONG, DEAD WRONG!

The thing is, we have now arrived at a line in the sand, only to ind that it's "quick Sand", on the other side of the line.

We either pull back & start the WHOLE SYSTEM HEADING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION OR WE ALL SINK INTO THE ABYSS!

Perhaps, ALL POLITICIANS should borrow a thought from the Law, which says -
I WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!
And, put it into action?
Either that or we will have to take our own action, BY VOTING OUT EVERY INCUMBENT, UNTIL THE POLITICIANS FINALLY CHANGE COURSE???

And writing in big bold letters
make what you say more factual and much more worth listening to

Actually ---- yes

It needs to be exposed in big bold lettering

I was quick to criticise that poster for doing so, pre-election

I voted poorly at that election. I was wrong

just as I was wrong to criticise the poster with the unpronounceable ID for their massive font posts

Yes, Abbott needs to be exposed in big, bold lettering

And it should continue all the way through to the day he's kicked from office along with his scum party

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Re: Rudd v Abbott in broken promises
Reply #29 - May 17^th, 2014 at 4:01pm

PZ547 wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 3:56pm:

Cliff48 wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 3:49pm:

perceptions_now wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

bogarde73 wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 3:45pm:

Well let's talk about core promises and non-core promises.
If your core promise is to restore budget stability, which most commentators agree is necessary, there are going to be promises in relation to specific budget sectors that will be difficult to sustain. Agreed?

All politicians make & break promises.
That is their field of operations, their battleground. Which broken promises cause most casualties doesn't matter as much as who wins the war.

I agree, that is pretty much where we are now!
AND, IT IS WRONG, DEAD WRONG!

The thing is, we have now arrived at a line in the sand, only to ind that it's "quick Sand", on the other side of the line.

We either pull back & start the WHOLE SYSTEM HEADING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION OR WE ALL SINK INTO THE ABYSS!

Perhaps, ALL POLITICIANS should borrow a thought from the Law, which says -
I WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!
And, put it into action?
Either that or we will have to take our own action, BY VOTING OUT EVERY INCUMBENT, UNTIL THE POLITICIANS FINALLY CHANGE COURSE???

And writing in big bold letters
make what you say more factual and much more worth listening to

Actually ---- yes

It needs to be exposed in big bold lettering

I was quick to criticise that poster for doing so, pre-election

I voted poorly at that election. I was wrong

just as I was wrong to criticise the poster with the unpronounceable ID for their massive font posts

Yes, Abbott needs to be exposed in big, bold lettering

And it should continue all the way through to the day he's kicked from office along with his scum party

Please explain how big bold letters
will look any more knowledgeable than a small child yelling and stamping his feet.

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