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Reply #15 - May 16^th, 2014 at 10:34am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 12:03am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

sectarian means nonreligious ?

no sprint - you are probably thinking of secular

I must confess gandalf, it is unusual to hear a moslem referring to Sunnis and Shiites as secular groups.

gandalf,

Would you like to revise your description of Sunnis and Shiites as NOT being 'religious' people/groups ?

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Bahrain was a sectarian protest - a long oppressed shiite majority rising up against the sunni monarchy. The royals were saved by Saudi tanks, and the shiite oppression continues to this day. The west was guilty only of being deafeningly silent over the Saudi and Bahraini atrocities, while screaming blue murder at the autocrats in Libya and Syria.

Ah!!!!! .....i see my error!!!

Sunnis and Shiites are moslem, after all!!! Tongue

So it is a 'sectarian' conflict.

Peace, bros!!!!!

The peace of ISLAM', that is!

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Reply #16 - May 16^th, 2014 at 10:49am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 4:53pm:

....Bahrain was a sectarian protest - a long oppressed shiite majority rising up against the sunni monarchy. The royals were saved by Saudi tanks, and the shiite oppression continues to this day. The west was guilty only of being deafeningly silent over the Saudi and Bahraini atrocities, while screaming blue murder at the autocrats in Libya and Syria.

An open, public conflict between of Sunni and Shiite people/groups ?

Conflict, between moslems ?

How can this be??????

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

Surely the infidels must be behind such conflicts [among moslem]!!!! ? Tongue

Yup!

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Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul
Reply #17 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:32am

Yadda wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 10:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 12:03am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

sectarian means nonreligious ?

no sprint - you are probably thinking of secular

I must confess gandalf, it is unusual to hear a moslem referring to Sunnis and Shiites as secular groups.

True, Y. G is quite different to all the other Muslims you speak to, no?

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22343 A cat with a view	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #18 - May 16^th, 2014 at 11:35am gandalf, is a different moslem? Not at all K. In what way ?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #19 - May 16^th, 2014 at 12:58pm shiites and sunnis are two different sects within the muslim population. I fail to see whats so difficult with this.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #20 - May 16^th, 2014 at 1:20pm Sunnis are the Muslim sect. Shites are the apostate sect. That's why they kill them.
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Reply #21 - May 16^th, 2014 at 1:31pm

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 1:20pm:

Sunnis are the Muslim sect.

Shites are the apostate sect. That's why they kill them.

Yup.

That is the view, from a Sunni perspective.

But if you ask a Shiite who the real moslems are, the Shiite will claim that he has that honour.

Isn't that right, gandalf!

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #22 - May 16^th, 2014 at 1:36pm True, but if you ask a Sunni, he will point out that the Shites (and only the shites) practice Taqiyya.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #23 - May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 1:20pm: Sunnis are the Muslim sect. Shites are the apostate sect. That's why they kill them. your words not mine.
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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #24 - May 16^th, 2014 at 3:59pm freediver Quote: Sunnis are the Muslim sect. Shites are the apostate sect. That's why they kill them. That's the accepted muslim way to get all the shite out of them.
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Reply #25 - May 16^th, 2014 at 4:10pm

It's all muslim against muslim ad infinitum and ad nauseam. All muslim countries suffer appalling human rights outrages, all suffer from endemic corruption the sanctity of life has little or no meaning to them. They then wish to pollute the rest of the planet with there obnoxious murderous belief system that is so sick it has polluted 1.5 billion people with it's disease. Our politicians should realise this before we suffer the same problems as Europe.

And this time it is ALL the followers of Islam's fault.

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In real life Gandalf is known as Mr 10%

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #26 - May 16^th, 2014 at 5:41pm polite_gandalf wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm: freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 1:20pm: Sunnis are the Muslim sect. Shites are the apostate sect. That's why they kill them. your words not mine. Actually it is from Abu.
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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #27 - May 16^th, 2014 at 7:53pm freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 5:41pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:47pm: freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 1:20pm: Sunnis are the Muslim sect. Shites are the apostate sect. That's why they kill them. your words not mine. Actually it is from Abu. You miss Abu don't you?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98921	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #28 - May 16^th, 2014 at 10:58pm FD will never get Abu back. Never. G can only hold a candle to the place in his heart FD still pines for Abu. Ah.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: The Arab spring was a Western plot, to emascul Reply #29 - May 17^th, 2014 at 8:00am I like to think that Abu is still with us. Either that, or in Syria.
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