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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #120 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police. How do you know you are certain enough that you are right to hold others accountable, just your feelings on the matters?

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #121 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #122 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #123 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16923 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #124 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:35am What are "dangerous stereotypes"?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36054 Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #125 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:35am Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:35am: What are "dangerous stereotypes"? In what Grap wrote? Are you serious?
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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #126 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Don't start that. You were getting ahead of what you said. We were not discussing Grap, we were discussing PC. Grap was just the catalyst.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36054 Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #127 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.
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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #128 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:39am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Don't start that. You were getting ahead of what you said. We were not discussing Grap, we were discussing PC. Grap was just the catalyst.

No. You brought up PC. I have kept it to what i think is funny or not.

If you want my thoughts on PC and how i truly believe it be a Machiavellian scheme of the far right, start a thread on it.

This is all about Grap's post. His right (as you are advocating for) to post it versus my right to call him a racist for it and warning him that he my get himself into similar trouble should he voice similar sentiments again, wherever he does.

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #129 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

He was stereotyping with an abo accent, is that racist? Stereotypes exist for a reason. If he was being malicious, which I don't think he was, it would be a different story. You can call him racist to your hearts content but I don't think what he said was. There are others here that say shyte I would agree are racist.

My point is just because it may hurt someone's feelings doesn't mean you are responsible for their feelings.

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Reply #130 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:43am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

Buggered if i know why you're arguing that Grap has the right to be racist but i don't have the right to call him a racist.

He was stereotyping with an abo accent, is that racist? Stereotypes exist for a reason. If he was being malicious, which I don't think he was, it would be a different story. You can call him racist to your hearts content but I don't think what he said was. There are others here that say shyte I would agree are racist.

Well you and i are going to have to agree to disagree. I think it was profoundly racist and incredibly insulting.

Would he say that to an Aboriginal person? If he did, what do you think the response would be?

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #131 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:36am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:34am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:33am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:32am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:30am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

You misunderstand. It's about motivation.

Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing?

Why would you tell them?

It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.

You would have to give me examples, I don't find everything funny.

What right do others have to hold me or anyone else accountable for what we think?! As I said, thought police.

When how you think is made public and expresses extreme prejudice via perpetuating dangerous stereotypes?

Damn right you'll be held accountable for it.

You've now extended it to expression, not what one thinks as you previously said.

Keep up Setanta. We are discussing Grap's expression. It's the whole point. It didn't require definition.

Don't start that. You were getting ahead of what you said. We were not discussing Grap, we were discussing PC. Grap was just the catalyst.

No. You brought up PC. I have kept it to what i think is funny or not.

If you want my thoughts on PC and how i truly believe it be a Machiavellian scheme of the far right, start a thread on it.

This is all about Grap's post. His right (as you are advocating for) to post it versus my right to call him a racist for it and warning him that he my get himself into similar trouble should he voice similar sentiments again, wherever he does.

Wow.. so all 'rights' are purely dependent on the person wishing to make a statement....

Now that's a quantum leap in reality.....

I feel - ergo... it must be.... the absolutely false premise on which 'feminism' and all its fellow travelers in social destruction of OUR society ride....

Welcome to Realityworld.....

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36054 Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #132 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:47am And they don't like being referred to as "abos". For a number of very good reasons. Make of that what you will.
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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #133 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:48am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:46am: