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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #105 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

It's easy Mothra, PC is the new game in town, if you're not into it, you're on the out. It's now all about feelings. Grap, you are not one of the popular kids anymore and we know being popular is the most important thing for our self esteem.

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

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Reply #106 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

It's easy Mothra, PC is the new game in town, if you're not into it, you're on the out. It's now all about feelings. Grap, you are not one of the popular kids anymore and we know being popular is the most important thing for our self esteem.

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #107 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:47am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

It's easy Mothra, PC is the new game in town, if you're not into it, you're on the out. It's now all about feelings. Grap, you are not one of the popular kids anymore and we know being popular is the most important thing for our self esteem.

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

The species hasn't evolved at all, it been browbeaten and henpecked. PC has no sense of humour as all humour may hurt someones feelings.

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #108 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:49am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

It's easy Mothra, PC is the new game in town, if you're not into it, you're on the out. It's now all about feelings. Grap, you are not one of the popular kids anymore and we know being popular is the most important thing for our self esteem.

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

The species hasn't evolved at all, it been browbeaten and henpecked. PC has no sense of humour as all humour may hurt someones feelings.

You think racism is funny? Just because racism isn't funny, doesn't mean that what is considered PC is without any humour at all.

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Re: Neanderthal DNA
Reply #109 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:52am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:49am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:47am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:45am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:39am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:36am:

It's easy Mothra, PC is the new game in town, if you're not into it, you're on the out. It's now all about feelings. Grap, you are not one of the popular kids anymore and we know being popular is the most important thing for our self esteem.

Casual racism hasn't been de rigueur for decades now. It's just not the done thing.

Isn't that what I just said? Oh, how dare you Grap!

Yes, indeed. The species has evolved. And for excellent reason. It must be difficult being an anachronism ... and not only when you're called on it.

The species hasn't evolved at all, it been browbeaten and henpecked. PC has no sense of humour as all humour may hurt someones feelings.

You think racism is funny? Just because racism isn't funny, doesn't mean that what is considered PC is without any humour at all.

Are you OK with these?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/szm4h/australian_englishman_and_irishman...
or these?
https://www.writerscentre.com.au/blog/33-best-irish-jokes/

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #110 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am And society has evolved ... tremendously. Ideas about not offending people and listening to them when they say representation in certain ways is offensive are not new. They just caught on after being hard-fought for. People tended to agree with it .. and it is the shape society takes now. Evolution, innit.
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Reply #111 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

And society has evolved ... tremendously. Ideas about not offending people and listening to them when they say representation in certain ways is offensive are not new. They just caught on after being hard-fought for. People tended to agree with it .. and it is the shape society takes now.

Evolution, innit.

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

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Reply #112 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

And society has evolved ... tremendously. Ideas about not offending people and listening to them when they say representation in certain ways is offensive are not new. They just caught on after being hard-fought for. People tended to agree with it .. and it is the shape society takes now.

Evolution, innit.

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

To a point. You need to ask what the motivation of the humour is. Is it to denigrate, belittle and misrepresent an already vulnerable group of people?

Is it to diminish hatred, prejudice , abuse and/or ignorance?

If so, i think you need to ask yourself why you think it's funny.

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Reply #113 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:10am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

And society has evolved ... tremendously. Ideas about not offending people and listening to them when they say representation in certain ways is offensive are not new. They just caught on after being hard-fought for. People tended to agree with it .. and it is the shape society takes now.

Evolution, innit.

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

To a point. You need to ask what the motivation of the humour is. Is it to denigrate, belittle and misrepresent an already vulnerable group of people?

Is it to diminish hatred, prejudice , abuse and/or ignorance?

If so, i think you need to ask yourself why you think it's funny.

So, about those Irish jokes etc, what is your view?
The motivation of humour is to laugh. Remember Steady Eddy? Is it OK for non seriously autistic people to tell his jokes? Why not? If only he can tell them, is it OK for non-autistic people to laugh or should he only tell his jokes to other autistic people?

Over emphasis on peoples feelings to suppress others thoughts and expression is just wank. Control your own damned feelings and stop being a sook. The world doesn't owe your feelings anything.

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Reply #114 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:17am

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

And society has evolved ... tremendously. Ideas about not offending people and listening to them when they say representation in certain ways is offensive are not new. They just caught on after being hard-fought for. People tended to agree with it .. and it is the shape society takes now.

Evolution, innit.

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

To a point. You need to ask what the motivation of the humour is. Is it to denigrate, belittle and misrepresent an already vulnerable group of people?

Is it to diminish hatred, prejudice , abuse and/or ignorance?

If so, i think you need to ask yourself why you think it's funny.

So, about those Irish jokes etc, what is your view?
The motivation of humour is to laugh. Remember Steady Eddy? Is it OK for non seriously autistic people to tell his jokes? Why not? If only he can tell them, is it OK for non-autistic people to laugh or should he only tell his jokes to other autistic people?

Over emphasis on peoples feelings to suppress others thoughts and expression is just wank. Control your own damned feelings and stop being a sook. The world doesn't owe your feelings anything.

Did you not understand my joke about motivation?

Not all jokes about races are malignantly racist.

I don't find any humour in representing any group of people by their worst case scenarios and belittling the whole for it. Especially not when such significant power imbalances exist.

And Steady Eddie isn't autistic. He has cerebral palsy. No, it is not cool for fully-abled people to make fun of people with cerebral palsy. Their motivation is too open to suspicion.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #115 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:20am And who said anything about over-emphasis? Isn't the right not to be horribly insulted and denigrated for something you have no control over pretty close to the surface of things to consider before opening your damn mouth?
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Reply #116 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:24am

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:17am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:55am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 1:53am:

And society has evolved ... tremendously. Ideas about not offending people and listening to them when they say representation in certain ways is offensive are not new. They just caught on after being hard-fought for. People tended to agree with it .. and it is the shape society takes now.

Evolution, innit.

Offence is something you can take or leave. People take offence because they choose to in almost all cases. Those that take offence on behalf of others are something else.

To a point. You need to ask what the motivation of the humour is. Is it to denigrate, belittle and misrepresent an already vulnerable group of people?

Is it to diminish hatred, prejudice , abuse and/or ignorance?

If so, i think you need to ask yourself why you think it's funny.

So, about those Irish jokes etc, what is your view?
The motivation of humour is to laugh. Remember Steady Eddy? Is it OK for non seriously autistic people to tell his jokes? Why not? If only he can tell them, is it OK for non-autistic people to laugh or should he only tell his jokes to other autistic people?

Over emphasis on peoples feelings to suppress others thoughts and expression is just wank. Control your own damned feelings and stop being a sook. The world doesn't owe your feelings anything.

Did you not understand my joke about motivation?

Not all jokes about races are malignantly racist.

I don't find any humour in representing any group of people by their worst case scenarios and belittling the whole for it. Especially not when such significant power imbalances exist.

And Steady Eddie isn't autistic. He has cerebral palsy. No, it is not cool for fully-abled people to make fun of people with cerebral palsy. Their motivation is too open to suspicion.

Where was you joke? I must have missed it.

Is it OK for Eddy to tell jokes to non CP people and for them to laugh? Is it OK for black people to tell black jokes and white people laugh? Is it OK for women to tell sexist jokes about women and men to laugh?

This is why I seriously dislike PC, it's thought police. You must think only what we tell you to think or you are a bad person. If it's not OK for Grap to make fun of whatever it must be just as wrong to make fun of him. If you want to see evidence of this sort of PC, read Greg.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87675 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #117 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:25am mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:20am: And who said anything about over-emphasis? Isn't the right not to be horribly insulted and denigrated for something you have no control over pretty close to the surface of things to consider before opening your damn mouth? Leave that bottle alone, gal.... ain' gon' do you no good...
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Neanderthal DNA Reply #118 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:27am You misunderstand. It's about motivation. Why would you find jokes that perpetuate dangerous stereotypes amusing? Why would you tell them? It's not about controlling how you think ... it's about being held accountable for how you think.
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Reply #119 - Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:28am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:25am:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

And who said anything about over-emphasis? Isn't the right not to be horribly insulted and denigrated for something you have no control over pretty close to the surface of things to consider before opening your damn mouth?

Leave that bottle alone, gal.... ain' gon' do you no good...

Haven't touched a drop.

Can you argue with what i said? Or are you just in it to insult me?

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