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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 110393 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Aussie sheik helps terror group Reply #15 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 5:16pm What should be done with traitors? Hang em and hang em high:
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Reply #16 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 5:20pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 3:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 3:37pm:

I wonder why they couldn't prosecute David Hicks

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If an Australian citizen enters a foreign country intending to engage in hostile activity on behalf of armed forces that are not part of the foreign government...

Even if it could be argued that the taliban were not a "foreign government", I don't think there is any evidence Hicks went in "intending to engage in hostile activity". He was studying if I recall, and was put on sentry duty. He certainly wouldn't have been expected to anticipate the US invasion.

Which is why the US eventually did a plea deal and released him - they didn’t have any evidence of whatever crime they were supposed to be convicting him with.

But there were Hicks’ letters to his parents. From what I remember, they made it quite clear he intended to be there to fight. I think he described weapons training.

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Re: Aussie sheik helps terror group
Reply #17 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 5:22pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 4:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 2:37pm:

The good Sheikh is not Henry Kissinger.

He has immersed himself with people who routinely shoot unarmed civilians and commit all sorts of other atrocities.

If he was truly concerned for the ummah, he would be of far more use in helping the woefully undermanned teams looking after the million+ refugees across all the borders of Syria. Or even helping his *OWN* community of unemployed, drug and crime-prone muslims in western Sydney.

If he wants to abandon his own communities' needs and fight in some foreign unrelated war, thats fine - thats his prerogative. I just hope he won't be allowed back to the country he abandoned, thats all.

Ditto.

We agree, gandalf.

You also agreed with an "explosion" of Muslim child marriages in NSW, Y. What criteria does it take to make you agree?

I do hope you’re not being a spineless apologist and agreeing with G just because he’s a Moslem.

If you do that, FD makes up posts about you.

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Re: Aussie sheik helps terror group
Reply #18 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 6:24pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 5:22pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 4:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 2:37pm:

The good Sheikh is not Henry Kissinger.

He has immersed himself with people who routinely shoot unarmed civilians and commit all sorts of other atrocities.

If he was truly concerned for the ummah, he would be of far more use in helping the woefully undermanned teams looking after the million+ refugees across all the borders of Syria. Or even helping his *OWN* community of unemployed, drug and crime-prone muslims in western Sydney.

If he wants to abandon his own communities' needs and fight in some foreign unrelated war, thats fine - thats his prerogative. I just hope he won't be allowed back to the country he abandoned, thats all.

Ditto.

We agree, gandalf.

You also agreed with an "explosion" of Muslim child marriages in NSW, Y. What criteria does it take to make you agree?

I do hope you’re not being a spineless apologist and agreeing with G just because he’s a Moslem.

If you do that, FD makes up posts about you.

Karnal,

You are sounding like Karnal, that delicate species of flower.

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Reply #20 - Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 8:49pm:

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Or even helping his *OWN* community of unemployed, drug and crime-prone muslims in western Sydney.

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I wonder why they couldn't prosecute David Hicks - this was the argument the Howard government used for keeping him in Guantanamo.

What makes you think they couldn't prosecute him?

Only Howard and Downer’s own statements.

I don’t remember Ruddock’s statements on this issue. G’s link shows the relevant legislation was amended in 2002.

No doubt a response to Hicks and Habib.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Aussie sheik helps terror group Reply #21 - Apr 4^th, 2014 at 8:24am freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2014 at 8:49pm: Quote: Or even helping his OWN community of unemployed, drug and crime-prone muslims in western Sydney. Evidence? For what?
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