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Reply #45 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 3:21pm
 

A followup report ............. sure

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...............Labor went to the 2007 federal election promising to re-invigorate CDEP......... But having won office, the Rudd government simply continued the "reforms" started by Brough and Hockey.

By 2009, three decades after it began, the Minister for Indigenous Affairs, Jenny Macklin, announced CDEP would be abolished in "non-remote areas with established economies".

One of the ironies is that Labor won office in 2007 claiming, repeatedly, that the biggest problem with the Liberals' policies in Aboriginal affairs is they adopted a "one size fits all" approach. Macklin's CDEP policy is based on nothing more than lines on a map.

The small community of Mungindi, for example, is just 150 kilometres from Toomelah. It has kept its CDEP. But Toomelah falls within 30 kilometres of a major centre, Goondiwindi, where, says Macklin, there are "local job opportunities".

Had Macklin read Marcus Einfeld's Human Rights and Equal Opportunity report then they would have realised that it was sparked by a massive riot in Goondiwindi in 1986, led by more than 100 Toomelah residents protesting appalling levels of racial discrimination and notably, their inability to secure employment.

And had she bothered to ask Rene Adams about the work history of the region, she would have discovered that in the 20-year history of the program in Toomelah, no single CDEP participant had ever left the program after securing a job in Goondiwindi.

"Goondiwindi is a lot better than what it was, but it's still a racist town," Adams said.

Adams' view is backed by Elaine Edwards, deputy chair of the Toomelah-Boggabilla Local Aboriginal Land Council, who along with other senior elders, met with Tracker in Goondiwindi recently. They all agreed that racism means Aboriginal people still struggle to find employment in Goondiwindi.

Adams had previously tried warning the Minister personally. In 2009, prior to the abolition of CDEP, she phoned into a live interview Macklin was conducting on ABC Radio in Tamworth, ambushing her on the air.
She did it again in 2010 and 2011, and also wrote to the Department of Employment and Workplace relations on the likely impact on the community.

"We had to do reports for (the government). We predicted it would be bad, but we never predicted it would be this bad. It's five or six times worse than we thought," says Adams.

And she wasn't alone in warning Macklin of the impending disaster. Numerous submissions to a parliamentary inquiry into the legislation abolishing CDEP warned Macklin of the dangers of her policy, including a combined submission from Professor Jon Altman and Dr Kirrily Jordan from the Centre for Aboriginal Economic Policy Research (CAEPR).

"Rather than the stated aim of shifting CDEP participants into so-called 'real jobs', the likely result is shifting people out of active work through the CDEP scheme and onto long-term income support," they wrote. That is precisely what has occurred.

In late 2009, Jordan completed a second report, this time specifically into the CDEP operations in the APY Lands in South Australia. Unlike Toomelah, the APY Lands was not considered close enough to "real economies" to lose CDEP altogether, but it was slated for reform.

Jordan noted: "This preliminary analysis concludes that although some of the measures introduced in July 2009 have had positive impacts, the changes to the scheme itself are tending to undermine the productive capacity of CDEP and induce a return to 'sit down money'.

"This is ostensibly what the government seeks to curtail and indeed what the CDEP scheme itself was designed to minimise." ...............

..............Abolishing CDEP in regional communities around the nation might not have had any impact on the bottom line of Jenny Macklin's department, but the impact on the community of Toomelah was devastating.

"All the people who were on CDEP are basically unemployed now," says Rene Adams.

With the closure of CDEP, the community store, with its two dozen employees, was forced to close. That means a loaf of bread is a 14 kilometre drive away in Boggabilla.

"We lasted 26 weeks, but it finally collapsed," says Adams.

Under the Rudd government's schools stimulus package, around $600,000 was spent on building a new school canteen at Toomelah primary. It began to serve not only as a source of food for schoolchildren, but as the only "store" in the community.

Today, even the school canteen lies vacant, courtesy of repeated break-ins. There is, of course, no night patrol in Toomelah anymore either.
No-one is cleaning up the community anymore; the cemetery crew is gone, the civil services have ground to a halt. The street lights are blacked out, there's no-one to attend to local plumbing or basic repair and maintenance of community assets. .........

............Violence in the community has increased exponentially, so much so that more than 60 videos of fights between local residents have been posted on YouTube in the past year. A punch-up in the street has become the entertainment of choice for a community in serious decline.

"Mental health issues and suicides have increased......


https://newmatilda.com/2012/07/06/why-toomelah-collapsed

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Reply #46 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 3:43pm
 
The kids my school go to got a magnificent new library.

Everyone at the school is over the moon. 

The school had been left to rot under the Howard reign.

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Reply #47 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 3:47pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 3:43pm:
The kids my school go to got a magnificent new library.

Everyone at the school is over the moon. 

The school had been left to rot under the Howard reign.


And not before that eh...  being that schools are the subject of STATE funding.  That'd most likely make it a Labor government during the Howard years 
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and that the BER, the subject of this topic, was a federal policy...  Labor yet again   Cheesy Cheesy Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #48 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:16pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 2:35pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 1:58pm:
It happened mantra.

Click here.

There were rip offs, and the whingers use them to attack the successes of BER.


Thanks Aussie. The amount of bad publicity about the scheme obviously outweighed the good it did to so many schools.

I can't honestly say that I was impressed overall with this scheme, but I'm still less disgruntled with Labor's efforts than I am with the previous Coalition and their never-ending porkbarrelling to those who didn't need it, removing workers' rights and the brutality and extravagance of their illegal wars. We're going down the same path again, but there are signs that it's going to be worse.




You need a chill pill or professional help.  All you have show so far is your one eye for Labor.
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Reply #49 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 2:35pm:
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AT Toomelah, on the NSW-Queensland border, dogs and emus wander aimlessly along streets littered with broken glass in an indigenous community plagued by alcohol, violence and teenage pregnancies.
But while life at the former mission town has improved since former judge Marcus Einfeld visited in 1987 and wept at the appalling conditions, community leaders are bemoaning a lost opportunity to turn around the fortunes of Toomelah.

When The Weekend Australian visited the town yesterday, elders and community leaders were frustrated that federal funding, which could have been used to create job opportunities, was squandered on a school tuckshop under the government's Building the Education Revolution scheme.

The cubbyhouse-sized canteen, measuring 8m by 3m, was built at Toomelah Public School for $650,000, while a three-bedroom home in nearby Boggabilla, in northwest NSW, is listed for sale at a fraction of the price: $119,000.

The McGrady family's four-bedroom home in Toomelah, one of several built under the $240million Aboriginal Communities Development Program, came in at under $500,000 and includes a bathroom, laundry and balcony.

Aboriginal elder Reg Haines said although the ACDP was criticised for being a waste of funds, it did not compare with the BER.

"If that's called a rip-off, what do you call this?" he said.

"$650,000 is a lot of money, they could have fixed (the community hall) . . . or done something about jobs."

Over at the town store, Denis Dennison said the money should have been invested in sporting facilities to lure bored students away from drugs and alcohol, while resident Malcolm Peckham said a saltwater swimming pool was needed to improve children's health.

Toomelah Co-operative manager and spokesperson for the community's working party Rene Adams said: "We could have put that (BER) money in to raise the self-confidence and self-esteem and the community pride."


http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/05/22/1225869/880416-reg-haines.jpg

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Aboriginal elder Reg Haines in front of the Toomelah Public School's $650,000 canteen yesterday. Picture: Liam Kidston Source: The Australian


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/canteen-a-lost-chance-for-community/...


The BER was an epic exercise is monstrous waster.  Look at that photo of the canteen.  it would have cost $50K to build anywhere else but under the BER it was $650K.  Just another Rudd blunder.
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Reply #50 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:23pm
 
Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 2:35pm:
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AT Toomelah, on the NSW-Queensland border, dogs and emus wander aimlessly along streets littered with broken glass in an indigenous community plagued by alcohol, violence and teenage pregnancies.
But while life at the former mission town has improved since former judge Marcus Einfeld visited in 1987 and wept at the appalling conditions, community leaders are bemoaning a lost opportunity to turn around the fortunes of Toomelah.

When The Weekend Australian visited the town yesterday, elders and community leaders were frustrated that federal funding, which could have been used to create job opportunities, was squandered on a school tuckshop under the government's Building the Education Revolution scheme.

The cubbyhouse-sized canteen, measuring 8m by 3m, was built at Toomelah Public School for $650,000, while a three-bedroom home in nearby Boggabilla, in northwest NSW, is listed for sale at a fraction of the price: $119,000.

The McGrady family's four-bedroom home in Toomelah, one of several built under the $240million Aboriginal Communities Development Program, came in at under $500,000 and includes a bathroom, laundry and balcony.

Aboriginal elder Reg Haines said although the ACDP was criticised for being a waste of funds, it did not compare with the BER.

"If that's called a rip-off, what do you call this?" he said.

"$650,000 is a lot of money, they could have fixed (the community hall) . . . or done something about jobs."

Over at the town store, Denis Dennison said the money should have been invested in sporting facilities to lure bored students away from drugs and alcohol, while resident Malcolm Peckham said a saltwater swimming pool was needed to improve children's health.

Toomelah Co-operative manager and spokesperson for the community's working party Rene Adams said: "We could have put that (BER) money in to raise the self-confidence and self-esteem and the community pride."


http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/05/22/1225869/880416-reg-haines.jpg

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Aboriginal elder Reg Haines in front of the Toomelah Public School's $650,000 canteen yesterday. Picture: Liam Kidston Source: The Australian


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/canteen-a-lost-chance-for-community/...


The BER was an epic exercise is monstrous waster.  Look at that photo of the canteen.  it would have cost $50K to build anywhere else but under the BER it was $650K.  Just another Rudd blunder.



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Reply #51 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:53pm
 
Kat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:23pm:
Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 2:35pm:
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AT Toomelah, on the NSW-Queensland border, dogs and emus wander aimlessly along streets littered with broken glass in an indigenous community plagued by alcohol, violence and teenage pregnancies.
But while life at the former mission town has improved since former judge Marcus Einfeld visited in 1987 and wept at the appalling conditions, community leaders are bemoaning a lost opportunity to turn around the fortunes of Toomelah.

When The Weekend Australian visited the town yesterday, elders and community leaders were frustrated that federal funding, which could have been used to create job opportunities, was squandered on a school tuckshop under the government's Building the Education Revolution scheme.

The cubbyhouse-sized canteen, measuring 8m by 3m, was built at Toomelah Public School for $650,000, while a three-bedroom home in nearby Boggabilla, in northwest NSW, is listed for sale at a fraction of the price: $119,000.

The McGrady family's four-bedroom home in Toomelah, one of several built under the $240million Aboriginal Communities Development Program, came in at under $500,000 and includes a bathroom, laundry and balcony.

Aboriginal elder Reg Haines said although the ACDP was criticised for being a waste of funds, it did not compare with the BER.

"If that's called a rip-off, what do you call this?" he said.

"$650,000 is a lot of money, they could have fixed (the community hall) . . . or done something about jobs."

Over at the town store, Denis Dennison said the money should have been invested in sporting facilities to lure bored students away from drugs and alcohol, while resident Malcolm Peckham said a saltwater swimming pool was needed to improve children's health.

Toomelah Co-operative manager and spokesperson for the community's working party Rene Adams said: "We could have put that (BER) money in to raise the self-confidence and self-esteem and the community pride."


http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/05/22/1225869/880416-reg-haines.jpg

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Aboriginal elder Reg Haines in front of the Toomelah Public School's $650,000 canteen yesterday. Picture: Liam Kidston Source: The Australian


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/canteen-a-lost-chance-for-community/...


The BER was an epic exercise is monstrous waster.  Look at that photo of the canteen.  it would have cost $50K to build anywhere else but under the BER it was $650K.  Just another Rudd blunder.



You just LOVE being wrong, don't you?


I respect the problem that you appear to be driven by anger rather than anything else, but even a incompetent debater would at least try to mount a contrary argument instead of poking out his tongue and admitting he is clueless.

You cannot even criticise to facts of my post - not that you are likely to try.
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Reply #52 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:59pm
 
Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:16pm:
You need a chill pill or professional help.  All you have show so far is your one eye for Labor.



Where have I heard that before. The list of insults you're dishing out to half the members here is getting longer. Members who come here and make 80 posts a day burn out fast and don't stay around for long, but then you would know that.

I actually don't vote for Labor, but then you would know that too.
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Reply #53 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:03pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:16pm:
You need a chill pill or professional help.  All you have show so far is your one eye for Labor.



Where have I heard that before. The list of insults you're dishing out to half the members here is getting longer. Members who come here and make 80 posts a day burn out fast and don't stay around for long, but then you would know that.

I actually don't vote for Labor, but then you would know that too.


If you don't vote for Labor then you have certainly been quite the apologist for them.  So Greens? 
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Reply #54 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 5:16pm
 
Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 3:47pm:
Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 3:43pm:
The kids my school go to got a magnificent new library.

Everyone at the school is over the moon. 

The school had been left to rot under the Howard reign.


And not before that eh...  being that schools are the subject of STATE funding.  That'd most likely make it a Labor government during the Howard years 
Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
and that the BER, the subject of this topic, was a federal policy...  Labor yet again   Cheesy Cheesy Grin Cheesy Cheesy


Yeah, funny that, eh? Prior to Rudd becoming Australia's worst ever PM, schools rotted under the state government of the day. Post-Rudd it is suddenly Howard's fault! All the federal government does is provide money to the states - how they spend it is up to each state's education system. But hey, no leftard would ever let that simple fact get in the way of a good whinge, would they??? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #55 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:07pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:16pm:
You need a chill pill or professional help.  All you have show so far is your one eye for Labor.



Where have I heard that before. The list of insults you're dishing out to half the members here is getting longer. Members who come here and make 80 posts a day burn out fast and don't stay around for long, but then you would know that.

I actually don't vote for Labor, but then you would know that too.

Greens...  that's even worse...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #56 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 7:10am
 
Grendel wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:06am:
The Labor government renegged on their policy of 1 computer per pupil... 







Rudd promises a computer
on every school desk


November 14, 2007

Labor party leader Kevin Rudd has today promised a AU$1 billion fund to give every senior secondary school student in years 9 to 12
access to a computer
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http://www.zdnet.com/rudd-promises-a-computer-on-every-school-desk-1339283831/





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Reply #57 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 7:19am
 
Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:53pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:23pm:
Bread and Butter wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 2:35pm:
Quote:
AT Toomelah, on the NSW-Queensland border, dogs and emus wander aimlessly along streets littered with broken glass in an indigenous community plagued by alcohol, violence and teenage pregnancies.
But while life at the former mission town has improved since former judge Marcus Einfeld visited in 1987 and wept at the appalling conditions, community leaders are bemoaning a lost opportunity to turn around the fortunes of Toomelah.

When The Weekend Australian visited the town yesterday, elders and community leaders were frustrated that federal funding, which could have been used to create job opportunities, was squandered on a school tuckshop under the government's Building the Education Revolution scheme.

The cubbyhouse-sized canteen, measuring 8m by 3m, was built at Toomelah Public School for $650,000, while a three-bedroom home in nearby Boggabilla, in northwest NSW, is listed for sale at a fraction of the price: $119,000.

The McGrady family's four-bedroom home in Toomelah, one of several built under the $240million Aboriginal Communities Development Program, came in at under $500,000 and includes a bathroom, laundry and balcony.

Aboriginal elder Reg Haines said although the ACDP was criticised for being a waste of funds, it did not compare with the BER.

"If that's called a rip-off, what do you call this?" he said.

"$650,000 is a lot of money, they could have fixed (the community hall) . . . or done something about jobs."

Over at the town store, Denis Dennison said the money should have been invested in sporting facilities to lure bored students away from drugs and alcohol, while resident Malcolm Peckham said a saltwater swimming pool was needed to improve children's health.

Toomelah Co-operative manager and spokesperson for the community's working party Rene Adams said: "We could have put that (BER) money in to raise the self-confidence and self-esteem and the community pride."


http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/05/22/1225869/880416-reg-haines.jpg

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Aboriginal elder Reg Haines in front of the Toomelah Public School's $650,000 canteen yesterday. Picture: Liam Kidston Source: The Australian


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/canteen-a-lost-chance-for-community/...


The BER was an epic exercise is monstrous waster.  Look at that photo of the canteen.  it would have cost $50K to build anywhere else but under the BER it was $650K.  Just another Rudd blunder.



You just LOVE being wrong, don't you?


I respect the problem that you appear to be driven by anger rather than anything else, but even a incompetent debater would at least try to mount a contrary argument instead of poking out his tongue and admitting he is clueless.

You cannot even criticise to facts of my post - not that you are likely to try.



None to criticise, is why.

It's all anti-Labor, anti-progress partisan BS.

And there's no point arguing with a brick, which is about your level of intelligence.
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Reply #58 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 7:23am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 29th, 2011 at 2:32pm:
DESPITE successful campaigns against the Home insulation scheme - and the
Building Education Revolution
- BOTH were GREAT successes in REAL terms

Under the insulation scheme the country, for the FIRST time, saw the introduction of NATIONAL accreditation and safety standards enforced on installers( ... previously your GARDENER was "qualified" to do your installation)

In a year, the number of installations increased FOURTEEN fold
The number of related fires increased by slightly less than DOUBLE
This is a MASSIVE DECREASE in real terms


As for the deaths ?

One was from heat exhaustion
One was from using an ALREADY banned product
ALL have been found, by the courts, to be NEGLIGENCE and a lapse of "duty of care" on the part of the employer

( ... Would you call medical malpractice, by a Medicare bulk-billing surgeon, to be the fault of the Health Minister? )

The BER, in the official inquiry, was found to be a SUCCESS and "value for money" in over 98% of some 8000 projects
( ... the under 2% that WEREN'T, were the basis of The Australian's campaign)


The scheme is STILL "kicking goals" to this day




Trentham Primary School's new arts and music facilities

14 Dec, 2011



TRENTHAM District Primary School now has a space for art, music and performing arts thanks to a new building.

The building, funded by the federal government's Building Education Revolution program, was launched by the Federal Member for Ballarat, Catherine King, on December 6.

School principal Philip Parkinson said art, music and performing arts had been a key focus for the school over the past few years.

"Now we've got a space for that purpose and a designated space for performances," Mr Parkinson said.

"We use it for auditions and rehearsals and as an art room. It means we can run a lot of programs that we couldn't run before."

He said the funding had given the town a first-class educational building facility that would serve the school well into the foreseeable future.

Catherine King said the school had been a place of education for the youngsters of Trentham for more than 135 years.

It (building) will ensure this location continues as a place of education for many years to come," she said. This facility is also very much in keeping with activities within the community of Trentham.



http://www.hepburnadvocate.com.au/news/local/news/general/trentham-primary-schoo...










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Reply #59 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 9:55am
 
Labor and the BER, saved Australia from the Tsunami of economic turmoil that engulfed the rest of the world.

If Tone the loon had been in charge, we would have had none of that.
He probably would have reinstated million dollar handouts for millionaire super funds, as his stimulus program.

We are seeing right now, how great TONY is, as industries collapse and leave our shores, in a true display of NO CONFIDENCE, in our current government.
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