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Putin's master plan
Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:34pm

As a Russian nationalist out of the same mould maybe as Peter the Great, Putin has been quietly working away at his plan to re-establish a Russian empire or a Soviet Union to put his country back on the map again.

He has already enveloped several countries in a customs union, incl. Khazakstan & Tajikistan, even probably Georgia and now he will include parts of Ukraine. Other former soviet satellites who may not get EU membership in the foreseeable future will probably be gathered into the fold with the promise of energy security and trade possibilities.

His objective is to have a Eurasian Common Market under Russian influence, which will rival the power centres of the EU, China and the US. He already considers the EU as an empty power centre. He was overheard to refer to it as guinea pigs on a wheel because of their inability to reach an agreement.

At the same time he has succeeded in doing a "Snowden job" on the west. The seeds of distrust have been sown among leading western countries - the US, Britain, Germany - by the leaking of intelligence information. Russia's gain, the Us and Europe's loss.
It is not improbable that it may eventually be found that Snowden has been a KGB plant all along (or whatever it's called now). It may not be a coincidence that Snowden went first to Hong Kong and then on to Russia, where he gained "asylum".

Fun & games and it's not even cold yet.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #1 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:48pm Quote: As a Russian nationalist out of the same mould maybe as Peter the Great Naaa, try Stalin. Autocratic, ruled with an iron fist, oppressive and expansionary.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6418 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #2 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:57pm
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #3 - Mar 29^th, 2014 at 6:52am
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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #4 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 6:26am You used to be a lefty, Pansi. Why the change with the Putin support? As far as right wing conservatives go, Putin makes the likes of Abbott, GW Bush and Thatcher look like rank amateur wannabes. The guy's the current pinup boy for right wing conservative nationalists.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6418 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #5 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 9:39am Crimean public prosecutor a sex bomb.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #6 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:15am Putins master plan: 1. Gain power And that's it.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6418 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #7 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:30am ... wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:15am: Putins master plan: 1. Gain power and that's it. I guess Obama and west want justice. "All the time whores talk about chastity and West about justice"
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #8 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:32am athos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:30am: ... wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:15am: Putins master plan: 1. Gain power and that's it. I guess Obama and west want justice. That wouldn't be my guess, but you feel free to think what you like.
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Re: Putin's master plan
Reply #9 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:51am

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 6:26am:

You used to be a lefty, Pansi.

Why the change with the Putin support?

As far as right wing conservatives go, Putin makes the likes of Abbott, GW Bush and Thatcher look like rank amateur wannabes.

The guy's the current pinup boy for right wing conservative nationalists.

It's not as clear cut as lefty and righty, it's more about justice, I am on the side of anything or anyone that can put a halt to the USA/EU/NATO/IMF/UN oligarchy of corruption.

I know Putin is a right wing capitalist, so what? I don't have to live in Russia or even like Russia or Putin for that matter, doesn't mean I can't respect his power and ingenuity, and it doesn't stop me from taking Putin's side against the hypocrisy of the west. The New World Order must be stopped at any cost and people are starting to realise this now.

If Putin is the only man in the world that can stop America & Co, then I'm right behind him.

I remember when you denied there was a NWO, please tell me you've changed your opinion on that. Conspiracy facts ha! WMD yeah right!

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Reply #10 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 11:05am

As a matter of interest, Ukraine hasn't even been a country for that long.
For hundreds of years it was part of the Duchy of Lithuania, which included bits of Poland and other countries, It was in fact once the biggest country in Europe.
Nikita Kruschev, known best for table thumping, gave it a sort of seperate status in the 1950s.

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Reply #11 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 1:01pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 6:26am:

You used to be a lefty, Pansi.

Why the change with the Putin support?

As far as right wing conservatives go, Putin makes the likes of Abbott, GW Bush and Thatcher look like rank amateur wannabes.

The guy's the current pinup boy for right wing conservative nationalists.

It's not as clear cut as lefty and righty, it's more about justice, I am on the side of anything or anyone that can put a halt to the USA/EU/NATO/IMF/UN oligarchy of corruption.

I know Putin is a right wing capitalist, so what? I don't have to live in Russia or even like Russia or Putin for that matter, doesn't mean I can't respect his power and ingenuity, and it doesn't stop me from taking Putin's side against the hypocrisy of the west. The New World Order must be stopped at any cost and people are starting to realise this now.

If Putin is the only man in the world that can stop America & Co, then I'm right behind him.

I remember when you denied there was a NWO, please tell me you've changed your opinion on that. Conspiracy facts ha! WMD yeah right!

In terms of morality Putin is like naive nun in compassion with western oligarchs.

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Re: Putin's master plan
Reply #12 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 1:03pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

As a matter of interest, Ukraine hasn't even been a country for that long.
For hundreds of years it was part of the Duchy of Lithuania, which included bits of Poland and other countries, It was in fact once the biggest country in Europe.
Nikita Kruschev, known best for table thumping, gave it a sort of seperate status in the 1950s.

Ukraine as a country and a "nation" was artificially created to undermine majority of Russian population in Soviet Union.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #13 - Apr 1^st, 2014 at 8:41am Putin is a power hungry mad dictator. It is up to us in the free world to ensure we support Ukraine and not allow Russia to ignore the international community to just illegally invade and annex land they want!
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6418 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Putin's master plan Reply #14 - Apr 1^st, 2014 at 8:46am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 1^st, 2014 at 8:41am: Putin is a power hungry mad dictator. It is up to us in the free world to ensure we support Ukraine and not allow Russia to ignore the international community to just illegally invade and annex land they want! International community??? US, Britain and few puppets.
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