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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #30 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:41pm

Ummmm you're worried about asylum seekers who get isolated and checked medically while they're being processed, yet you make no mention of the millions of tourists and business visitors who come from all over the world - often direct from visiting several different countries over a short period of time - and who require no medical checks before they immediately get to mix in with the general population?

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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #31 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:00pm

Once again with the word wankery

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned smugglers.

No you just started a thread with country shopper in the title, gee how did smuggler come into it then?
Maybe the people who pay smugglers are regularly called "Country Shoppers" but yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned smugglers.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned Australia. Roll Eyes

No you just started a thread implying Country shoppers coming here might have Ebola?
You also posted this at 11.00am

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Just another reason to stop uninvited arrivals in OZ.

But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Australia.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned mutations

No but here you posted at 11.11am
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Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you.

But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Mutations.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Who said i was trying to start a panic?

It is the only logical conclusion, unless you want to go with blind hatred Undecided

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

You just make up all loads of crap

No I actually think in more than 1 dimension, which is why you play these stupid word games of, "no I never said the article said", & the one the other day when every word meant banned but you didn't read the word banned so there was no ban, when called upon to explain the meaning behind your posts.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

There are some serious diseases out there, and many that come to OZ via people smugglers come from countries that have these diseases....fact

NOPE CRAP see Lifes reply

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

A good reason IMO to ensure uninvited people paying people smugglers to bring them to OZ are stopped....my opinion

See Lifes reply

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Pretty smacking simple.

Yes you are

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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #32 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:11pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:00pm:

Once again with the word wankery

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned smugglers.

No you just started a thread with country shopper in the title, gee how did smuggler come into it then?
Maybe the people who pay smugglers are regularly called "Country Shoppers" but yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned smugglers.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned Australia. Roll Eyes

No you just started a thread implying Country shoppers coming here might have Ebola?
You also posted this at 11.00am

Quote:

Just another reason to stop uninvited arrivals in OZ.

But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Australia.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Never said the article mentioned mutations

No but here you posted at 11.11am
Quote:

Because viruses never mutate, they never change, they act the same way for ever and ever. Smacking obtuse, that's what i call you.

But yes you are correct you never mentioned the article mentioned Mutations.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Who said i was trying to start a panic?

It is the only logical conclusion, unless you want to go with blind hatred Undecided

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

You just make up all loads of crap

No I actually think in more than 1 dimension, which is why you play these stupid word games of, "no I never said the article said", & the one the other day when every word meant banned but you didn't read the word banned so there was no ban, when called upon to explain the meaning behind your posts.

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

There are some serious diseases out there, and many that come to OZ via people smugglers come from countries that have these diseases....fact

NOPE CRAP see Lifes reply

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

A good reason IMO to ensure uninvited people paying people smugglers to bring them to OZ are stopped....my opinion

See Lifes reply

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Pretty smacking simple.

Yes you are

All replies to you, making crap up!!

STOP THE DISEASES!!!

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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #33 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:15pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

Ummmm you're worried about asylum seekers who get isolated and checked medically while they're being processed, yet you make no mention of the millions of tourists and business visitors who come from all over the world - often direct from visiting several different countries over a short period of time - and who require no medical checks before they immediately get to mix in with the general population?

That's a good point.

Still IMO we should mitigate the risk from uninvited people that arrive via people smuggling operations.

Yet another good reason to stop the people smuggling trade.

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper? Reply #34 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:23pm The gender gap.... The Middle East and North Africa were the only regions not to improve in the past year.... Another good reason to stop boats.....and immigration, from these areas.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper? Reply #35 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:24pm FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:23pm: The gender gap.... The Middle East and North Africa were the only regions not to improve in the past year.... Another good reason to stop boats.....and immigration, from these areas. I think Western Sydney has gone to hell too.
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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #36 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:10pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:57am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey?

We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs.

This is hysterical nonsense. Planes are a far more efficient method of transporting diseases. This is a point that you refuse to address.

Start a thread, bloody hell!!

You still refuse to address the point that planes are the most effective way of transporting diseases and parasites around the globe.

You've got nothing.

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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #37 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:47pm

Bam wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:10pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:57am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

Who's to say they might not bring a vector on the journey?

We need to stop these people coming uninvited at all costs.

This is hysterical nonsense. Planes are a far more efficient method of transporting diseases. This is a point that you refuse to address.

Start a thread, bloody hell!!

You still refuse to address the point that planes are the most effective way of transporting diseases and parasites around the globe.

You've got nothing.

I addressed the point - not just to you.... Cry

That's a good point.

Still IMO we should mitigate the risk from uninvited people that arrive via people smuggling operations.

Yet another good reason to stop the people smuggling trade.

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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #38 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 4:48pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?

Virus in Guinea capital Conakry
not Ebola

24 March 2014 Last updated at 17:32

Conakry - Guinea announced on Monday that samples taken from three suspected cases of Ebola, which led to two deaths in the capital Conakry,
had tested negative
for the virus.

"The Pasteur Institute in Dakar worked urgently all last night on samples taken from suspected cases here in Conakry which were all negative
," said Sakoba Keita, the health ministry's chief disease prevention officer.

The Pasteur Institute was still working on identifying the virus behind the fever cases in the capital and would know more "in the coming hours".

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Fever-cases-reported-in-Guinea-not-Ebola-20140...

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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #39 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 4:58pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

... you're worried about asylum seekers who get isolated and checked medically while they're being processed, yet you make no mention of the millions of tourists and business visitors who come from all over the world ...

... who are
NOT
the subject of mandatory health checks

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper? Reply #40 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:08pm I went to a Liberal Party 200 Club dinner a while back and one of the medical people who has been out on the asylum detention centres said that they are rife with disease. That's the danger of accepting people from these kind of places. Disease is a massive problem. Yuck!
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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #41 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:23pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

I went to a Liberal Party 200 Club dinner a while back and one of the medical people who has been out on the asylum detention centres said that they are rife with disease.

That's the danger of accepting people from these kind of places. Disease is a massive problem.

Yuck!

They receive medication for their illnesses so not sure what the problem is. Has no one realised this, there is treatment for their most common ones (hepatitis B, TB, VD) and generally easily cured, full medical check ups are part of the induction process. Theres a lot of valid reasons why we should not be accepting these people into australia but the risk of disease carrying isnt one of them.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper? Reply #42 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 7:46pm Xenophobia run wild. I have no trouble holding people in a camp for a limited time for health checks.
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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #43 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:23pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

There are some serious diseases out there, and many that come to OZ via people smugglers come from countries that have these diseases....fact.

A good reason IMO to ensure uninvited people paying people smugglers to bring them to OZ are stopped....my opinion.

Pretty smacking simple. Wink

Your opinion is formed through a baseless fear. For your solution to protect Australia from the big E and other viruses to work, you'd need to stop all immigration and international tourism. Being "uninvited" has nothing to do with it.

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Re: A dose of Ebola with your country shopper?
Reply #44 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:59pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

Xenophobia run wild. I have no trouble holding people in a camp for a limited time for health checks.

Yes. It's something called "quarantine". It was originally a forty-day stay in detention to prevent the spread of diseases like the plague. Considering asylum seekers are usually held in detention longer than this, any transmissible diseases would likely be detected so they are already effectively in quarantine. I see no problem here.

It's not asylum seekers arriving by boat that bring diseases into the country. The most dangerous carriers of disease are people arriving by plane, flooding into the country without any health checks. No wonder we're getting measles outbreaks again.

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