wally1 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2014 at 6:32am:


Both the major parties are after the Muslim vote ~ not just Labour.

Prisons categorize prisoners. If you go to the Sex Offender wing, you'll find rapists. If you go to Maximum Security, you'll find violent offenders. If you go to Protection, you'll find snitches and child molesters.

Finding small target groups and highlighting them as a trend is so Islam board. It's what we do. 6% of underage defactos are Muslims - a "child marriage epidemic".

The terrorist unit of a British prison is 42% Muslim - "Britain's jails are becoming a hotbed of extremism".

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If you go to the terrorist wing, you'll find Muslims.

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I think you'll find that that particular issue carried on because Gandalf insisted that the factor of 3 over-representation is statistically insignificant. I suspect he even googled statistical regression and dropped a few words in an effort to pretend he knew what he was talking about. The evidence was introduced by Muslims, the misrepresentation of the evidence was introduced by Muslims, yet somehow it is some kind of sinister effort by non-Muslims.

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The concept of a jail as a criminal's university is widely known. I'm not sure why the same argument would not apply to Islamic extremism.

During the Gulf War I worked among the US forces in the deserts of Saudi Arabia under the auspices of the Religious Affairs Department of the Air Force. The US troops had typical misgivings about Islam. In the US they had been told not to go even within 10 feet of the Mosques. We took them inside the Mosques. They were impressed by the simplicity of the ambience of the Mosques interiors.

When they landed in Saudi Arabia, It appeared to them a strange place with women cloaked in black hijab. They had named it the UBO or Unidentified Black Objects. But the living experience in Saudi Arabia was an eye opener for the US troops. They saw openness and warm hospitality in tents of bedouins in the deserts who served them with fresh dates and milk. They had not seen this hospitality in Korea or Japan where they had camped for decades.

Later, I went back to the US and set up Islamic chapters in the US Defence Department. Other Islamic organisations in the US are also in touch with these troops. Nearly 3,000 US troops embraced Islam while staying in Saudi Arabia. Believe me, Saudi Arabia was the only place on the earth, where US forces did not leave war babies and where the liquor was rationed. In the tents, the troops openly discussed the Islamic tenets and practices. These Muslim troops are now the messengers of Islam in the US forces.

But then people have accused Saudi Arabia for having invited polytheists to fight against a Muslim neighbour.

I do not want to go into politics. Saudi Arabia has been able to make a big and positive Islamic impact on the West. The stay of US troops was utilised by Saudis to convey Islamic message. Political name-calling of Saudi Arabia could be easy. Iran makes a negative impact on the West. Saudi Arabia takes better care of its citizens, far in excess of what the Western nations do with their own countries. Two million US citizens live and sleep on the streets. None in Saudi Arabia.

You’re right. I do believe Islam and Islamic extremism spreads through jails. In Australia, even groups of Aboriginal prisoners are identifying with Islam, most likely through the influence of Spike Lee’s Malcolm X.

Like many things, there is good and bad, yin and yang. But it’s definitely worth keeping a very close eye on Islamacist groups in prisons, particularly in the UK, which seems to attract a much more extremist brand of Islam.

Nearly 3,000 US troops embraced Islam while staying in Saudi Arabia. Believe me, Saudi Arabia was the only place on the earth, where US forces did not leave war babies and where the liquor was rationed.

I blame Islam. Typical.