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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #15 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:50pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:03am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:00am:
[quote author=Deathridesahorse link=1394299265/0#0 date=1394299265]Sympathy should not be extended to climate change deniers in my opinion!

Voting for climate denial propaganda does not exactly make for a clever farmer!![/quote]


Any actual evidence that this is happening or are you just making sh1t up so you can heap sh1t on people in dire need?



The clear and unambiguous warming of the earth over recent decades is pretty obvious evidence isn't it?  And now QLD has it's largest drought declared area ever.  And it is not even El Nino yet.

If I was Tony, I would be pulling that DD trigger ASAP for a new election ASAP.  When El Nino hits us again, his climate change denier government is going to look even more silly then they currently do.



Is english not your first language; my comment has nothing at all to do with climate change, but drah's accusation, without evidence, that farmers are climate change deniwers and should be gine no sympather for the drought they are suffering.


And if you read his reply to me,he all but admitted he made up this vile accusation.



You accuse others of getting their rocks off by denigrating others whilst you are actively participating in THE WAR MACHINE and think no one but me notices the disconnect perhaps??  Grin

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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #16 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:58pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:50pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:03am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:00am:
[quote author=Deathridesahorse link=1394299265/0#0 date=1394299265]Sympathy should not be extended to climate change deniers in my opinion!

Voting for climate denial propaganda does not exactly make for a clever farmer!![/quote]


Any actual evidence that this is happening or are you just making sh1t up so you can heap sh1t on people in dire need?



The clear and unambiguous warming of the earth over recent decades is pretty obvious evidence isn't it?  And now QLD has it's largest drought declared area ever.  And it is not even El Nino yet.

If I was Tony, I would be pulling that DD trigger ASAP for a new election ASAP.  When El Nino hits us again, his climate change denier government is going to look even more silly then they currently do.



Is english not your first language; my comment has nothing at all to do with climate change, but drah's accusation, without evidence, that farmers are climate change deniwers and should be gine no sympather for the drought they are suffering.


And if you read his reply to me,he all but admitted he made up this vile accusation.



You accuse others of getting their rocks off by denigrating others whilst you are actively participating in THE WAR MACHINE and think no one but me notices the disconnect perhaps??  Grin




Which "THE WAR MACHINE" would this be, slightly insane person?


You are not above lying and denigrating others for your own amusment, so Im intrigued by this latest insane rant and slanderous accusation.



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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #17 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 5:08pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 3:33pm:
..and you know what they say about indicators!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Cheesy



Always use them when driving???
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #18 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 5:15pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 5:08pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 3:33pm:
..and you know what they say about indicators!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Cheesy



Always use them when driving???

Bingo, but how many is enough and are they bright enough AND DO THEY ADHERE TO A STANDARD??

YOU SEE BUDDY- TECHNOLOGY IS THE APPLICATION OF SCIENCE!!!

Didn't get up early enough today did ya mate  Grin
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #19 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 5:59pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 5:15pm:
AND DO THEY ADHERE TO A STANDARD??


And that is the operative question on CC/AGW as well. Wink
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #20 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:04pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 5:59pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 5:15pm:
AND DO THEY ADHERE TO A STANDARD??


And that is the operative question on CC/AGW as well. Wink

No shite sherlock.. it's called the uncertainty principle!
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #21 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:09pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
it's called the uncertainty principle!



The uncertainty of Scientific Principle
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #22 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:31pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:09pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
it's called the uncertainty principle!



The uncertainty of Scientific Principle

Lol, the fascists who vote liberal hate their kids and cry every night about why they had kids cos all they wanna do is hate but feel ashamed they are committing them to a nightmare!
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #23 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:22pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Perhaps it would be more instructive to read AR5.

The table SPM.2 to Summary for Policymakers has a footnote that says that the IPCC level of confidence in the models in the short term is less than 5%. Or to put it another way - their No Confidence level is more than 95%.


Does it?!?!  Where?

Here is the link to the Summary for Policymakers - tell us which page

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Glacial Ice mass overall is increased.

No.  It isn't.  Please don't tell lies.


What the IPCC AR5 says is:
The average rate of ice loss from glaciers around the world, excluding glaciers on the periphery of the ice sheets, was very likely 226 [91 to 361] Gt yr−1 over the period 1971 to 2009, and very likely 275 [140 to 410] Gt yr−1 over the period 1993 to 200910

the World Glacier Monitoring Service says:
The average mass balance of the glaciers with available long-term observation series around the world continues to be negative, with tentative figures indicating a further thickness reduction of 0.6 metres water equivalent (m w.e.) during the hydrological year 2012. The new data continues the global trend in strong ice loss over the past few decades and brings the cumulative average thickness loss of the reference glaciers since 1980 at 16 m w.e.

http://www.wgms.ch/mbb/sum12.html


Please apologise for lying to the forum.

lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Sea level rises.- Check the sea level rise for Kiribati at University of Colorado. (Kiribati is sinking apparently).

Yes - Kiribati would be sinking.  The islands of Kiribati are atolls.  They are sinking by definition.

If you really want a discussion on the islands of Kiribati - I would be happy to engage.  I lived there for many years and know them well.

lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Tell us what you see.

I see an ignorant fool telling lies.

And so does everybody else.

Why do you do it?
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #24 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:49pm
 
rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:22pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Perhaps it would be more instructive to read AR5.

The table SPM.2 to Summary for Policymakers has a footnote that says that the IPCC level of confidence in the models in the short term is less than 5%. Or to put it another way - their No Confidence level is more than 95%.


Does it?!?!  Where?

Here is the link to the Summary for Policymakers - tell us which page

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Glacial Ice mass overall is increased.

No.  It isn't.  Please don't tell lies.


What the IPCC AR5 says is:
The average rate of ice loss from glaciers around the world, excluding glaciers on the periphery of the ice sheets, was very likely 226 [91 to 361] Gt yr−1 over the period 1971 to 2009, and very likely 275 [140 to 410] Gt yr−1 over the period 1993 to 200910

the World Glacier Monitoring Service says:
The average mass balance of the glaciers with available long-term observation series around the world continues to be negative, with tentative figures indicating a further thickness reduction of 0.6 metres water equivalent (m w.e.) during the hydrological year 2012. The new data continues the global trend in strong ice loss over the past few decades and brings the cumulative average thickness loss of the reference glaciers since 1980 at 16 m w.e.

http://www.wgms.ch/mbb/sum12.html


Please apologise for lying to the forum.

lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Sea level rises.- Check the sea level rise for Kiribati at University of Colorado. (Kiribati is sinking apparently).

Yes - Kiribati would be sinking.  The islands of Kiribati are atolls.  They are sinking by definition.

If you really want a discussion on the islands of Kiribati - I would be happy to engage.  I lived there for many years and know them well.

lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Tell us what you see.

I see an ignorant fool telling lies.

And so does everybody else.

Why do you do it?

And IPCC AR5 footnote 16 states:


No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies.

Meaning "our failed models still tell us figures 2 times as large as what mother nature has provided. We like to think our models are more accurate in some way compared to what we feel is a failed empirical evidence that mother nature has put forth"

Some scientists are going with mother nature. empirical data.

IPCC and the loons, well they are going with models that couldn't find a root in a brothel.

Ice melts. Ice grows. CO2 does stuff all to contribute.
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #25 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:17pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:49pm:
rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:22pm:
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Perhaps it would be more instructive to read AR5.

The table SPM.2 to Summary for Policymakers has a footnote that says that the IPCC level of confidence in the models in the short term is less than 5%. Or to put it another way - their No Confidence level is more than 95%.


Does it?!?!  Where?

Here is the link to the Summary for Policymakers - tell us which page

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf
lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Glacial Ice mass overall is increased.

No.  It isn't.  Please don't tell lies.


What the IPCC AR5 says is:
The average rate of ice loss from glaciers around the world, excluding glaciers on the periphery of the ice sheets, was very likely 226 [91 to 361] Gt yr−1 over the period 1971 to 2009, and very likely 275 [140 to 410] Gt yr−1 over the period 1993 to 200910

the World Glacier Monitoring Service says:
The average mass balance of the glaciers with available long-term observation series around the world continues to be negative, with tentative figures indicating a further thickness reduction of 0.6 metres water equivalent (m w.e.) during the hydrological year 2012. The new data continues the global trend in strong ice loss over the past few decades and brings the cumulative average thickness loss of the reference glaciers since 1980 at 16 m w.e.

http://www.wgms.ch/mbb/sum12.html


Please apologise for lying to the forum.

lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Sea level rises.- Check the sea level rise for Kiribati at University of Colorado. (Kiribati is sinking apparently).

Yes - Kiribati would be sinking.  The islands of Kiribati are atolls.  They are sinking by definition.

If you really want a discussion on the islands of Kiribati - I would be happy to engage.  I lived there for many years and know them well.

lee wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:52am:
Tell us what you see.

I see an ignorant fool telling lies.

And so does everybody else.

Why do you do it?

And IPCC AR5 footnote 16 states:


No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies.

Meaning "our failed models still tell us figures 2 times as large as what mother nature has provided. We like to think our models are more accurate in some way compared to what we feel is a failed empirical evidence that mother nature has put forth"

Some scientists are going with mother nature. empirical data.

IPCC and the loons, well they are going with models that couldn't find a root in a brothel.

Ice melts. Ice grows. CO2 does stuff all to contribute.

fud !!
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #26 - Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:46pm
 
"Consider the auk
Becoming extinct because he forgot to fly and could only walk.
Consider man, who may well become extinct
because he forgot how to walk and learned to fly before he thinked."
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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #27 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:09am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:58pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:50pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:03am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:00am:
[quote author=Deathridesahorse link=1394299265/0#0 date=1394299265]Sympathy should not be extended to climate change deniers in my opinion!

Voting for climate denial propaganda does not exactly make for a clever farmer!![/quote]


Any actual evidence that this is happening or are you just making sh1t up so you can heap sh1t on people in dire need?



The clear and unambiguous warming of the earth over recent decades is pretty obvious evidence isn't it?  And now QLD has it's largest drought declared area ever.  And it is not even El Nino yet.

If I was Tony, I would be pulling that DD trigger ASAP for a new election ASAP.  When El Nino hits us again, his climate change denier government is going to look even more silly then they currently do.



Is english not your first language; my comment has nothing at all to do with climate change, but drah's accusation, without evidence, that farmers are climate change deniwers and should be gine no sympather for the drought they are suffering.


And if you read his reply to me,he all but admitted he made up this vile accusation.



You accuse others of getting their rocks off by denigrating others whilst you are actively participating in THE WAR MACHINE and think no one but me notices the disconnect perhaps??  Grin




Which "THE WAR MACHINE" would this be, slightly insane person?


You are not above lying and denigrating others for your own amusment, so Im intrigued by this latest insane rant and slanderous accusation.






So up to your usual standard, slander someone and then just run away like a coward. No wonder people treat you with such contempt.




You set set yourself low standards and continually fail to meet even those.



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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #28 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 5:46am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 4:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:04am:
`BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:17am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 6:11am:
Also its prolly like the last drought where it was drougting all the time - there were even puddles of drought in the roads and ppl said "heavy dew" (seriously!).....

SOB

"heavy dew" ?????????????????????????  Shocked Shocked


Yeah - theres not really a drought in south burnett area where they go on about it. In fact a farmer told me he coudlnt plant the brocolli because the ground was too wet.

SOB



So what you are saying is that farmers in the south burnett 'go on about' drought and complain the ground is too we for planting at the same time.

Are you sure you are not making this up so you can join in with drah and pay out on desperate farmers, to make yourself feel better by denigrating others.




No what i am saying is that the media is lying.

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Re: Queensland drought
Reply #29 - Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:05pm
 
rabbitoh08 wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:22pm:
Here is the link to the Summary for Policymakers - tell us which page

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf



Try the second bottom footnote on page 21.

'Calculated from projections as 5−95% model ranges. These ranges are then assessed to be
likely
ranges after accounting for additional uncertainties or different levels
of confidence in models. For projections of global mean surface temperature change in 2046−2065
confidence
is
medium
, because the relative importance of natural
internal variability, and uncertainty in non-greenhouse gas forcing and response, are larger than for 2081−2100. The
likely
ranges for 2046−2065 do not take into
account the possible influence of factors that lead to the assessed range for near-term (2016−2035) global mean surface temperature change that is lower than the
5−95% model range,
because the influence of these factors on longer term projections has not been quantified due to insufficient scientific understanding. {11.3)

Re Kiribati - the furore was about Climate Change/AGW was causing sea level rise- not about atolls sinking.

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