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Reply #105 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:31am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:08am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

Two things:-

1) It is difficult for the ordinary person to see the difference between the small percentage of MEasters who engage in 'cafe` gangster' style nonsense - pretending to be big time crime bosses - and the ordinary MEaster interested in a good life for self and family.

2) Having lived among these people, I can say that they are fairly evenly divided between 50% decent reasonable etc people, and about 50% dumb ones with an attitude of either outright aggression/abuse of others, or rather stupid arrogance coupled with equal stupidity.

For right or wrong I place the better style of MEaster as the Bedu or desert style, and the lesser style as being the 'town dwellers', which latter have had a lot of very poor influences, French, Turkish etc, and have lost their character in many cases (sort of your Fat Joe non-Bedu with a spice of violence, though he has some good Armenian blood which tempers it a little).

Yours sincerely,

Grappler of Arabia....

That is true. Many are good people like you say. Like you say grappler, geez there's an abundance of idiots. Arabic muslim culture treats the sons in families like kings and they've been brought up with the attitude that they can do what they want. They have a bad attitude to education and rules and end up unemployable. Being poor, having a bad attitude and stupid isn't a good mix.

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Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control
Reply #106 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:39am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:08am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

Two things:-

1) It is difficult for the ordinary person to see the difference between the small percentage of MEasters who engage in 'cafe` gangster' style nonsense - pretending to be big time crime bosses - and the ordinary MEaster interested in a good life for self and family.

2) Having lived among these people, I can say that they are fairly evenly divided between 50% decent reasonable etc people, and about 50% dumb ones with an attitude of either outright aggression/abuse of others, or rather stupid arrogance coupled with equal stupidity.

For right or wrong I place the better style of MEaster as the Bedu or desert style, and the lesser style as being the 'town dwellers', which latter have had a lot of very poor influences, French, Turkish etc, and have lost their character in many cases (sort of your Fat Joe non-Bedu with a spice of violence, though he has some good Armenian blood which tempers it a little).

Yours sincerely,

Grappler of Arabia....

Balanced and fair grappler as always. Not a case for Middle Eastern groups being responsible for over 50% on crime in Nsw as others would suggest.

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Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control
Reply #107 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:41am

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:39am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:08am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

Two things:-

1) It is difficult for the ordinary person to see the difference between the small percentage of MEasters who engage in 'cafe` gangster' style nonsense - pretending to be big time crime bosses - and the ordinary MEaster interested in a good life for self and family.

2) Having lived among these people, I can say that they are fairly evenly divided between 50% decent reasonable etc people, and about 50% dumb ones with an attitude of either outright aggression/abuse of others, or rather stupid arrogance coupled with equal stupidity.

For right or wrong I place the better style of MEaster as the Bedu or desert style, and the lesser style as being the 'town dwellers', which latter have had a lot of very poor influences, French, Turkish etc, and have lost their character in many cases (sort of your Fat Joe non-Bedu with a spice of violence, though he has some good Armenian blood which tempers it a little).

Yours sincerely,

Grappler of Arabia....

Balanced and fair grappler as always. Not a case for Middle Eastern groups being responsible for over 50% on crime in Nsw as others would suggest.

50% in Sydney. Can't you read. I believe it's more than that by the way.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88480 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control Reply #108 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:41am Perfectly true Sparky - only a minority and only a small percentage, though sometimes very media worthy.
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Sparky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1338 Gender:	Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control Reply #109 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:44am Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:41am: Perfectly true Sparky - only a minority and only a small percentage, though sometimes very media worthy. When people and property are being shot on a weekly basis it does make good news. No other ethnic groups are doing this.
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Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control
Reply #110 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:44am

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:26am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

You then get personal when I pointed out that Arabic Muslim Sydney suburbs are crime ridden slums where people other than Arabic Muslims don't want to live. It's not my fault. Lakemba is a crap hole. Check it out for yourself.

So you calling me a fruit and bleeding heart wasn't personal I let you do it twice before I responded in that manor I do believe what you we're trying to convey was contrived though, however I was still wrong to make a personal comment about your character and apologise unreservedly

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Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control
Reply #111 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:55am

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:44am:

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:26am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

You then get personal when I pointed out that Arabic Muslim Sydney suburbs are crime ridden slums where people other than Arabic Muslims don't want to live. It's not my fault. Lakemba is a crap hole. Check it out for yourself.

So you calling me a fruit and bleeding heart wasn't personal I let you do it twice before I responded in that manor I do believe what you we're trying to convey was contrived though, however I was still wrong to make a personal comment about your character and apologise unreservedly

No, you started it by calling me a loon , bringing up bigotry and calling my post a BS comment. Go back if you wish, it's all there. You get what you give. I should be allowed to question multiculturalism if I wish.

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Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control
Reply #112 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 12:47pm

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:55am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:44am:

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:26am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

You then get personal when I pointed out that Arabic Muslim Sydney suburbs are crime ridden slums where people other than Arabic Muslims don't want to live. It's not my fault. Lakemba is a crap hole. Check it out for yourself.

So you calling me a fruit and bleeding heart wasn't personal I let you do it twice before I responded in that manor I do believe what you we're trying to convey was contrived though, however I was still wrong to make a personal comment about your character and apologise unreservedly

No, you started it by calling me a loon , bringing up bigotry and calling my post a BS comment. Go back if you wish, it's all there. You get what you give. I should be allowed to question multiculturalism if I wish.

Dam straight you should allowed to question absolutely anything you want to question I'm totally agree with you on that one. Making false statements as the premiss for those questions though is what got my burr up. I did call you a loon because of those statements and I'm sorry I did, because the discussion descended into an exchange of personal insults, instead of a constructive one. All that as side if or comments are false what would you hope to achieve?

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Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control
Reply #113 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 1:08pm

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 12:47pm:

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:55am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:44am:

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:26am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

You then get personal when I pointed out that Arabic Muslim Sydney suburbs are crime ridden slums where people other than Arabic Muslims don't want to live. It's not my fault. Lakemba is a crap hole. Check it out for yourself.

So you calling me a fruit and bleeding heart wasn't personal I let you do it twice before I responded in that manor I do believe what you we're trying to convey was contrived though, however I was still wrong to make a personal comment about your character and apologise unreservedly

No, you started it by calling me a loon , bringing up bigotry and calling my post a BS comment. Go back if you wish, it's all there. You get what you give. I should be allowed to question multiculturalism if I wish.

Dam straight you should allowed to question absolutely anything you want to question I'm totally agree with you on that one. Making false statements as the premiss for those questions though is what got my burr up. I did call you a loon because of those statements and I'm sorry I did, because the discussion descended into an exchange of personal insults, instead of a constructive one. All that as side if or comments are false what would you hope to achieve?

I'm sorry too Rubin. I have nothing against good ME people. One part of me doesn't feel totally confidant about racially modifying our country. I believe it is dangerous. As a result I'm very critical of multiculturalism. But if a person functions and brings their family up to be peaceful functioning people then I don't care what race they are. I despise people who bring up problem people though.

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Re: When is enough, enough Street crime out of control
Reply #114 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 1:30pm

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 1:08pm:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 12:47pm:

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:55am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:44am:

Sparky wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:26am:

Rubin wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:28am:

Sparky you are just a insecure scared little bigot. What have I said that makes me a bleeding heart. You lied about the crime rates in relation to arabic people you lied about the property prices in lakemba. You will do anything to make crime about race because you are gutless and want the government to reinforce your bigoted point of view. They won't because what you are saying simply isn't true and if ya that fricken scared, take you $1000000 dollars and go live in Tasmania or in one of the numerous of towns and cities around Australia were the demographics are far less diverse. Gutless passive aggressive weedy middle class bigots sit on your asses expecting the government to run people out of town.

You then get personal when I pointed out that Arabic Muslim Sydney suburbs are crime ridden slums where people other than Arabic Muslims don't want to live. It's not my fault. Lakemba is a crap hole. Check it out for yourself.

So you calling me a fruit and bleeding heart wasn't personal I let you do it twice before I responded in that manor I do believe what you we're trying to convey was contrived though, however I was still wrong to make a personal comment about your character and apologise unreservedly

No, you started it by calling me a loon , bringing up bigotry and calling my post a BS comment. Go back if you wish, it's all there. You get what you give. I should be allowed to question multiculturalism if I wish.

Dam straight you should allowed to question absolutely anything you want to question I'm totally agree with you on that one. Making false statements as the premiss for those questions though is what got my burr up. I did call you a loon because of those statements and I'm sorry I did, because the discussion descended into an exchange of personal insults, instead of a constructive one. All that as side if or comments are false what would you hope to achieve?

I'm sorry too Rubin. I have nothing against good ME people. One part of me doesn't feel totally confidant about racially modifying our country. I believe it is dangerous. As a result I'm very critical of multiculturalism. But if a person functions and brings their family up to be peaceful functioning people then I don't care what race they are. I despise people who bring up problem people though.

You may be right there but I don't believe crime stats back your concerns up. Multiculturalism is a difficult beast with just as many cons as pros. I understand your concern on that front, there are many issues of concern and not just with ME people. But our crime rates are different story, multiculturalism as part to do with it but only minor in the overall issue of crime. I mean it's rife through most of the country even in areas with very little diversity.

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