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The Australian auto industry's green afterlife?
Feb 14th, 2014 at 10:12am
 
Can an Australian Tesla emerge from wreckage of car industry?

By Giles Parkinson on 13 February 2014

A year or two before its demise, Holden was offered the opportunity to throw in a small amount of money to try and help the development of an electric Commodore. The sum requested was minor, but refused.

In retrospect, the request was possibly a little like suggesting Kodak should go digital, or a coal-fired generator go green. Incumbents find it difficult to look beyond their own business model and the quarterly report to shareholders.  And then they fall flat on their face.

The question about an EV manufacturing industry in Australia is an interesting one. There will be huge debate about whether an Australian EV maker could compete on the international market, in the same way that the local subsidiaries of Holden, Ford and Toyota struggled.

But there is one key element that may be overlooked – over and above the obvious technical talent and infrastructure that Australia deploys in its car manufacturing sector. And that is latent demand, and the potential support of the huge electricity utility industry, who could throw their considerable weight behind EV deployment to address their own weaknesses in their business model.

As RenewEconomy noted last year, the utilities industry has been looking for some time to EVs, and its infrastructure of storage and charging stations, as an antidote to declining demand and the threat of the death spiral. It’s about the only way they can see themselves being able to buy into the new distributed energy model.

It is remarkable to see how vocal those interests have become. The major utilities are now actively pushing EV adoption in their submissions to the Energy White Paper and other reviews. Could their involvement lead to the development of a “clean car” industry in Australia. There is an awful lot at stake, and an awful lot of reasons why it could.

The Australian Electric Vehicle Association says the departure of Mitsubishi, Holden, Ford and Toyota  - owing to their “uncompetitive business models”, presents Australia with a unique chance to foster its own auto-manufacturing capacity.

“Whether it is foreign investment from a large automaker or a locally conceived EV, Australia is well placed to design, build and market EVs to the world,” it says in its submission to the energy white paper.  “The AEVA strongly supports any effort to redirect funds away from petrol-burning carmakers, and towards producers of plug-in hybrids and pure EVs here in Australia.”

It notes that the exits of the big carmakers mean Australia will have three production lines available, excellent auto design skills (Australia is one of the few in the world to be able to design and build a motor vehicle from concept to delivery, and expertise gained in the construction of the hybrid Camry. The success of Tesla showed how EVs could appeal to the market.

It also notes that the high penetration of domestic solar in Australia is a natural fit to charge EVs at home, and 140,000 households who cashed in on the NSW solar bonus scheme will be looking for something to do with their excess capacity when those tariffs finish at the end of 2016.

Such ideas are likely to gain support from the utilities industry – retailers, generators, and network operators, to address the significant over-capitalisation of the network, and to arrest declining demand that are affecting other areas.

Origin Energy, for instance,  is promoting the deployment of electric vehicles as one area of abatement that should be encouraged through the Direct Action process. “When bundled with a renewable energy product such as GreenPower, EVs can provide a zero emissions solution,” it writes in its submission to the Senate inquiry on Direct Action.

“They also provide other benefits, such as by shifting demand to off-peak times, thereby reducing costs on the electricity network.”

This theme has been taken up by AGL Energy, which says in its submission to the energy white paper that EVs could reduce the Australian economy’s reliance on imported liquid fuels by substituting domestically-generated electricity.

“This represents a significant opportunity to improve Australia’s structural trade position and energy security,” it says. Further, EVs have zero tailpipe emissions, and therefore do not contribute to air pollution or ‘‘smog.’’ Over time, high EV uptake could significantly improve air quality in urban areas.

AGL Energy argues that charging EVs, even in Australia’s current fossil-fuel dominated generation mix, would produce around 18kg of CO2e per 100 km of driving, about 35 per cent lower than an average petrol car, although roughly equivalent to a new midsize petrol sedan or hatch. And it says the electricity fleet will likely clean itself up much quicker than the petrol fleet. EVs charged using accredited GreenPower (as at 2010) would produce 2 kg CO2e per 100kms.

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AGL Energy says that with the right price signals – such as time of use pricing it has been promoting for years, would enhance the utilisation rate of existing electricity grid infrastructure, and reduce unit pricing for all consumers. It suggests that Australia should consider government targets or mandates for electric vehicle uptake.

As the AEVA suggests: Electric vehicles present a major electricity storage option for the grid, as vehicle-to-grid energy flow would allow more intermittent sources of electricity such as that from solar and wind, to be utilised as the need arises. We believe that further investment into the development of “smart” electricity distribution networks is essential, and would deliver considerable efficiencies if executed properly. A high price should be offered to households who re-supply electricity from fully charged EVs, as this represents a premium reserve which can be accessed rapidly.

In short, an Australia EV manufacturing industry is a potential answer to so many issues – an Australian manufacturing base, employment, electricity bills, network death spirals, and emissions reduction – it could encourage the uptake of solar and other renewables. Bit of a no brainer really.

Update: This week, an EV battery charging facility powered by dual-axis solar trackers was installed at Kangaroo Island’s airport. The system will provide more than 100MWh of electricity, enough to offset the consumption of the local airport, and combined with 14kW rooftop solar PV system on Council Chambers, will support the charging of three Nissan LEAF electric vehicles.
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Reply #2 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:00am
 
Interesting, but I'd be amazed if it happened.

A more favorable outcome would be to develop trams that run on LNG. There is much more than 35% advantage in that.

That 35% would not include line losses, and would be much lower in states where coal fired is the predominant form of generation. 

OK, I can see the advantage when they remove the feed-in tarrifs and (hopefully) those people with any sense will consider standalone solar or using their panels to charge EVs.

Having said that, I wonder how they will fill the short-term gap in electricity supply when domestic solar panels are pulled from the market by disgruntled owners.

One fact that people with solar panels need to know is that nobody can build new power stations overnight, and consequently they hold a lot of "power" if they only realised it.
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Net pioneer set to electrify motorsport
AS the petrol-guzzling engines of the elite Formula One race cars roared around the Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne yesterday, NBN Co director and internet entrepreneur Simon Hackett was dreaming of a future where the event includes a race of a much quieter -- but potentially quicker -- nature.

That's because Mr Hackett, the founder of internet provider Internode, has invested millions of dollars in a new motoring start-up that has designed a world-leading, high-performance electric-powered race car for international exhibition and racing events.

The secret project, dubbed eV Race Systems, has been in the works for the past 12 months but now Mr Hackett and the brains behind the new car, Tesla Australia's former chief technician Rudi Tuisk, are ready to lift the hood on their plans to revolutionise the development of electric-powered race cars around the world.

"We are at the front end of electric cars being considered high-performance cars. And with this new project we have the potential to change the perception of high-performance racing around the world," Mr Hackett told The Australian.


"We're talking about going from the incredibly inefficient noise of petrol-powered cars to almost silent but incredibly quick vehicles powered by electricity."

Later this year, eV Race Systems will put its designs into action and manufacture three to five pure-electric prototypes of the new car that will each weigh 1000kg and be powered by a 400kW (kilowatts), 800Nm (newton metre) powertrain, allowing the high-performance vehicles to accelerate from a standing start to 200km/h in less than eight seconds.

In comparison, a V8 Supercar takes nine seconds to accelerate to 200km/h.

"While a traditional car has to build up a head of steam before it achieves maximum pulling power or torque, with electric cars there's a helluva lot of torque on demand," Mr Hackett said.

"That means serious acceleration in minimum time. These will be more like a dodgem cars on steroids than conventional petrol-driven cars."

Mr Hackett is hoping that by backing eV Race Systems he and Mr Tuisk will usher in a new class of high-performance racing events that will show off the potential of electric-powered vehicles.

The company is already in advanced negotiations with manufacturers and suppliers to build the vehicle and discussions are also being held with race event organisers in Europe and Asia to host the first event for the new class of electric cars.

"We're not here to replace Formula One. The performances of these vehicles are in different realms. Electric cars will beat petrol cars to high speeds but sustaining those high speeds over a long period is the challenge. It's more like sprinters versus long distance runners," Mr Hackett said.

"However, with improvements in battery technology we are now on the verge of building the sorts of cars that would be a fabulous support series for larger motor events."

Mr Tuisk, who also served as Tesla Motors' chief technician in Europe and Asia-Pacific during his five years with the company and is now the architect and technical director for eV Race Systems, said the project would be a great opportunity for Australia to showcase its core engineering talent on a global stage.

"This is a significant motorsport project. It is revolutionary in terms of concept and technology. EVRS is set to build the most exciting race car to drive and the most exciting race car to watch," Mr Tuisk said.

"We've pulled together an elite team of engineers and people from some of the world's best racing events, including Formula One, European Le Mans, World Rally Championship and Classic V8s. Once complete, the eVRS car will be one of the most exciting race cars built in our generation."

Mr Hackett has become something of a patron saint for innovative start-ups and technology companies since selling Internode to rival internet provider iiNet for $105 million in 2011.
The avid aircraft aficionado and pilot last year invested close to $1m in an Australian-made iPad app that aims to replace the thousands of pages pilots use to plan and navigate flights.

He has also invested in several local technology start-ups and opened a co-working space in Adelaide for tech-savvy entrepreneurs and companies.

The financial backing of eV Race Systems represents the latest of Mr Hackett's investments that tie closely with his interests.

The self-made millionaire owns three of the iconic electric-powered Tesla Roadsters (and has another two on order), one of which he drove into the record books when in 2009 he completed a 501km journey on a single electric charge in the Global Green Challenge.

"I guess you could say I quite like Tesla vehicles. But it's more about loving innovation in the electric car space in many forms -- including electric racing cars," he said.

Mr Hackett cautioned that while he had no intention of reviving the waning car manufacturing industry in Australia, which has been in a critical condition since Ford and Holden announced their plans to leave Australia, he is hoping that the start-up will inspire local car manufacturers and demonstrate that the the smarts underpinning high-end motor vehicles in Australia still exist. "It's about providing some inspiration. We are not in a world where Australia has to give up on innovation in vehicles," he said.

"This is as much about building intellectual property around a new class of cars. That's really where the fu
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"This is as much about building intellectual property around a new class of cars. That's really where the future of Australia's car industry is. We can no longer pretend to be the country that does massive commodity and boring manufacturing stuff because there is always going to be a country that does that cheaper."

Source: The Australian
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muso wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:00am:
Interesting, but I'd be amazed if it happened.

A more favorable outcome would be to develop trams that run on LNG. There is much more than 35% advantage in that.

That 35% would not include line losses, and would be much lower in states where coal fired is the predominant form of generation. 

OK, I can see the advantage when they remove the feed-in tarrifs and (hopefully) those people with any sense will consider standalone solar or using their panels to charge EVs.

Having said that, I wonder how they will fill the short-term gap in electricity supply when domestic solar panels are pulled from the market by disgruntled owners.

One fact that people with solar panels need to know is that nobody can build new power stations overnight, and consequently they hold a lot of "power" if they only realised it.

Nice last sentence: free market ideals are ever more approximated with the free flow of information! This is what some bloke who said it meant, I assume, when he said, "synergistic systems don't decay, they collapse!"

Always food for thought  Grin
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:41pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:06am:
"This is as much about building intellectual property around a new class of cars. That's really where the future of Australia's car industry is. We can no longer pretend to be the country that does massive commodity and boring manufacturing stuff because there is always going to be a country that does that cheaper."

Source: The Australian


The recharge vehicle idea died at the Open Technology development in Carbon-CO2 power. This power plant 100% recycles captured Carbon. Carbon being a Natural Refrigerant expands at heat beginning -40C  and out powers burning Diesel at +20*C. The engine has only one moving part a Hydro turbine. Heating may come from any source. To best explain how this works is by attachment of similar producing electricity. Its correct the physics of a fridge forms its basis yet it is not a fridge.  That posted commences at a heat of -10*C made that way by the mechanics. It then seeks heat from the freezer before moving on to collect more heat from the fridge and finally room temperature of +20*C.
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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:00pm
 
Carbon forces to heat, scales are Critical and Supercritical.

Domestic application of forces not be above +30*C and at +50*C you have the forces need to drive a 350 megawatt turbine. (Tarong Power Station QLD.)

Help is needed in Supercritical attachment, its small in computer storage yet leaps in size when posted!
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Supercritical CO2
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Reply #11 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 1:55am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:05am:
"While a traditional car has to build up a head of steam before it achieves maximum pulling power or torque, with electric cars there's a helluva lot of torque on demand," Mr Hackett said.


I thought steam cars were a thing of the past....
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Reply #12 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 11:40am
 
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Having said that, I wonder how they will fill the short-term gap in electricity supply when domestic solar panels are pulled from the market by disgruntled owners.

One way is to keep Coal burning generators on line, many at present are operating at well under capacity.
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Frances wrote on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 1:55am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:05am:
"While a traditional car has to build up a head of steam before it achieves maximum pulling power or torque, with electric cars there's a helluva lot of torque on demand," Mr Hackett said.


I thought steam cars were a thing of the past....


In 2007 a device known as the DaS Valve was donated to the people of Australia, ever since there has been controversy over governments refusal to pass on to the Clerk of Parliament for display. A simple engine of one moving part a hydro turbine powered by water pushed by steam.  The DaS Valve allows a mixture of fuel and air to mix in bubble form inside the cylinder which ignites then all heat is taken up by the water not just 50% of conventional steam creation.  The problem with such engine if burning Diesel the steam temperature is 1200*C which is 600*C above that allowed unless a defence application. Much lesser energetic fuels such as Ethanol is required. This engine faces stiff completion from a world dominated by solid not liquid piston engines. There also the problem that the hundreds of parts in the conventional engine have people making those parts and they not be needed in the modern steam engine. The steam made by ignition is instant and heat up lag never occurs, its turn the key and go, out powering any engine and for a quarter of the cost!
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Reply #14 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:21pm
 
DaS Energy wrote on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 7:42pm:
Frances wrote on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 1:55am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:05am:
"While a traditional car has to build up a head of steam before it achieves maximum pulling power or torque, with electric cars there's a helluva lot of torque on demand," Mr Hackett said.


I thought steam cars were a thing of the past....


In 2007 a device known as the DaS Valve was donated to the people of Australia, ever since there has been controversy over governments refusal to pass on to the Clerk of Parliament for display. A simple engine of one moving part a hydro turbine powered by water pushed by steam.  The DaS Valve allows a mixture of fuel and air to mix in bubble form inside the cylinder which ignites then all heat is taken up by the water not just 50% of conventional steam creation.  The problem with such engine if burning Diesel the steam temperature is 1200*C which is 600*C above that allowed unless a defence application. Much lesser energetic fuels such as Ethanol is required. This engine faces stiff completion from a world dominated by solid not liquid piston engines. There also the problem that the hundreds of parts in the conventional engine have people making those parts and they not be needed in the modern steam engine. The steam made by ignition is instant and heat up lag never occurs, its turn the key and go, out powering any engine and for a quarter of the cost!

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