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Nightmare Vision Of The 2014 Property Crash
Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:03am
 
Nightmare vision of 2014 property crash

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    February 14, 2014


American economist and demographer Harry S Dent jnr says there is a bubble in Australian house prices and we should brace ourselves for a spectacular collapse sometime this year.      Sad

    Have US experts missed the point about Australian property?

Dent is in Australia to speak at seminars and to promote his book, “The Demographic Cliff”. He says that house prices are unsustainable and will fall by at least 27 per cent in Sydney and Melbourne over the next several years.

    Your real estate is so high it has to come down.

Dent told Money in a video interview that the trigger for the collapse of Australia's house price bubble will be the bursting of the Chinese house bubble.
How high can property go?



Dent says Sydney and Melbourne property markets are being held up by foreign buyers and that cannot last forever.      Sad


“China has a bubble [in house prices] that makes Australia's look like nothing,” he says.

“I think China's bubble is going to burst and I cannot see any way that Australian property prices can keep going up," he says.

If his forecasts do not come true it will be because governments “wave the magic wand and kick the can down the road again”.

The Reserve Bank of Australia and most Australian economists say there is no bubble in Australian house prices. But Dent is sticking to his guns.      Sad

“Nobody in real estate development or government can afford to say that 'we have got a bubble',” he says. “They will always say it is not a bubble”.

But what of our special factors - we are a very large country with a unique economy and most of the population concentrated in a few conurbations - don't they count against the general rules for bubbles and their ending. Dent says he has studied every bubble in history and every time a bubble comes whether it is in tulip bulbs, gold, stocks or housing they are always described by those on the inside as being different, and unlikely to burst.

“I am saying that China has the biggest [bubble] and that is going to trigger [the bursting of] your bubble. Your real estate is so high it has to come down in the next few years."      Sad    

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/money/investing/nightmare-vision-of-2014-property-crash-20140213-32kl2.html#ixzz2tFIUTVkZ
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Reply #1 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:21am
 
Crook, its just impossible to tell.
I dont think there's very much up side at the moment so i wouldnt be speculating.
However , there are a LOT of people paying very high rents who would move into home ownership if prices came off even by
10 to 15 %.
So i think there is a floor under the housing sector.
i cant see a major "crash".
Especially in a place like sydney, there is just not much more land available for the "aussie dream" of a backyard and there is population growth.
But i cant see much scope for a rise either, renters simply cant come up with more to support the returns that investors would need.
I'd predict a bit of stagnation, to be honest.
As the boomers retire, beachside low maintenance units near services should be polular and this might free up some family homes for younger renters
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Reply #2 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:23am
 
The only thing that triggers an housing crash is a dramatic change in the ability for people to buy houses.

Abbott has started that trigger by increasing unemployment.  But it would probably need to get to 10% before we'd see a crash, and it would need to impact the "Sydney sectors" such as building and professionals.
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Reply #3 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am
 
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

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Reply #4 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

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WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #5 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:35am
 
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

SOB


WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin


Try south burnett in qld and mt morgan (rocky area) and no i dont have a link - i have a house there.

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Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:40am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:21am:
But i cant see much scope for a rise either, renters simply cant come up with more to support the returns that investors would need.

Want, not need.
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Reply #7 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:42am
 
Bam wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:40am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:21am:
But i cant see much scope for a rise either, renters simply cant come up with more to support the returns that investors would need.

Want, not need.

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Reply #8 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:45am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:35am:
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

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WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin


Try south burnett in qld and mt morgan (rocky area) and no i dont have a link - i have a house there.

SOB



Mount Morgan a population of less than 2500 people with no real employment oportunities since the mine closed in 1981 and you seem surprised that when their house prices go down and not one network finds it 'news worthy'.

The reason Mount Morgan's real estate crisis in not news worthy, is that no-one gives a bugger about Mount Morgan.


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Reply #9 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:47am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:45am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:35am:
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

SOB


WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin


Try south burnett in qld and mt morgan (rocky area) and no i dont have a link - i have a house there.

SOB



Mount Morgan a population of less than 2500 people with no real employment oportunities since the mine closed in 1981 and you seem surprised that when their house prices go down and not one network finds it 'news worthy'.

The reason Mount Morgan's real estate crisis in not news worthy, is that no-one gives a bugger about Mount Morgan.




What about south burnett wise guy? Besides whatever the reasons its going down and its actually more than just those 2 areas.

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Reply #10 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:48am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:35am:
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

SOB


WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin


Try south burnett in qld and mt morgan (rocky area) and no i dont have a link - i have a house there.

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Mt Morgan not exactly a hub, more like a broken spoke!

My wife thinks that place needs a blood transfusion   Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #11 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 10:20am
 
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:48am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:35am:
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

SOB


WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin


Try south burnett in qld and mt morgan (rocky area) and no i dont have a link - i have a house there.

SOB

Mt Morgan not exactly a hub, more like a broken spoke!

My wife thinks that place needs a blood transfusion   Grin Grin Grin


Still ignoring south burnett i see

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Reply #12 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 10:25am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:47am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:45am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:35am:
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

SOB


WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin


Try south burnett in qld and mt morgan (rocky area) and no i dont have a link - i have a house there.

SOB



Mount Morgan a population of less than 2500 people with no real employment oportunities since the mine closed in 1981 and you seem surprised that when their house prices go down and not one network finds it 'news worthy'.

The reason Mount Morgan's real estate crisis in not news worthy, is that no-one gives a bugger about Mount Morgan.




What about south burnett wise guy? Besides whatever the reasons its going down and its actually more than just those 2 areas.

SOB



Yeah, no-one gives a sh1t about dropping house prices in the Sth Burnett either, so also not news worthy.


When a city with it's own news service has a massive plummett of prices, it would be newsworthy, but podunk backwaters, not so much.


When brisbane, sunny coast, goldie, townsville cairns mackay or rocky take a double digit tumble it might make the news then.




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Reply #13 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 10:39am
 
Heres a ? for you

you pay 500K for a house you borrow 300K.

would you sell it if you were only going to get a 250K sale price??


No, so who would sell? if no one sells the price hasn't crashed?
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Reply #14 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 10:45am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:35am:
woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:29am:
House prices are coming down in some areas though but you dont hear that in the news

SOB


WHICH AREAS    ??? Do you have a LINK?  Or is it only in your mind   Grin Grin Grin Grin


Try south burnett in qld and mt morgan (rocky area) and no i dont have a link - i have a house there.
SOB



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