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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	a fact trail will lead to the truth Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:44am “One gallon of fuel will move a UK aircraft carrier 12 inches.”
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namnugenot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 639 NSW Gender:	Re: a fact trail will lead to the truth Reply #1 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:00am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:44am: “One gallon of fuel will move a UK aircraft carrier 12 inches.” You know cast it adrift and theoretically it could move all around the world provided it did not hit anything along the way.
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Reply #2 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 11:05am

In 2013 the commander of the US forces in the Pacific, Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, also said upheaval caused by global warming “is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen […] that will cripple the security environment, probably more likely than the other scenarios we all often talk about.”
He added, “We have interjected into our multilateral dialogue – even with China and India – the imperative to kind of get military capabilities aligned [for] when the effects of climate change start to impact these massive populations.
“If it goes bad, you could have hundreds of thousands or millions of people displaced and then security will start to crumble pretty quickly.’’

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Re: a fact trail will lead to the truth
Reply #3 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:47pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

In 2013 the commander of the US forces in the Pacific, Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, also said upheaval caused by global warming “is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen […] that will cripple the security environment, ...

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Reply #4 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 2:54am

# wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

In 2013 the commander of the US forces in the Pacific, Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, also said upheaval caused by global warming “is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen […] that will cripple the security environment, ...

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You're saying it aint a fact?

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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: a fact trail will lead to the truth Reply #5 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 5:13pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:44am: “One gallon of fuel will move a UK aircraft carrier 12 inches.” How much energy is needed to make that gallon of fuel
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Reply #6 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 5:28pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:44am:

“One gallon of fuel will move a UK aircraft carrier 12 inches.”

How much energy is needed to make that gallon of fuel

Hmmn, now we're going on a slippery slope to a nasty place!! So obviously nasty none of us wish to truly examine it Embarrassed

Suffice to say that we are all living a 'false economy'.

The basis of the industrial revolution was the constant improvement of process. Bill Gates wrote that automation will increase the efficiency of an efficient process but will likewise increase the inefficiency of an inefficient process just aswell.

We cannot afford to become automatons due to the cognitive dissonance encouraged by the global mining behemoths of this world.. mind control is real: wake up world- you have kids to care for!

Are we all merely Phillip Seymour Hoffmans at heart???? Embarrassed

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Reply #7 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 5:31pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 5:13pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:44am:

“One gallon of fuel will move a UK aircraft carrier 12 inches.”

How much energy is needed to make that gallon of fuel

We're in a tailspin: nice observation! Wink

Standing armies are needed to make the corporations that pilfer the worlds resources that feed the standing armies that pilfer the worlds resources and we call that "growth"... Cool

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Re: a fact trail will lead to the truth
Reply #8 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 8:12pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 2:54am:

# wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 11:05am:

In 2013 the commander of the US forces in the Pacific, Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, also said upheaval caused by global warming “is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen […] that will cripple the security environment, ...

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You're saying it aint a fact?

Not a fact. Many facts, repeatedly reinforced.

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Reply #9 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 8:31pm

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But this CO2 gas is nothing more than a “trace” gas
CO2 .amounts to .039% of the atmosphere.
The atmosphere as you know is composed of gases. The most abundant of these are nitrogen and oxygen. These account for 99% of the atmosphere.
If you could separate all the gases that comprise the atmosphere and fit them into 1billion glass jars (1,000,000,000)
Oxygen would take up 209,500,000 jars
Nitrogen would take up 780,800,000 jars
Carbon dioxide which is .039% of the atmosphere, would take up 390,000 jars.
Not much compared to the big 2 is it? You might be thinking, how can something that is just a trace gas have the potential to be so harmful.
Consider this. Ozone which is .000004% of the atmosphere, would take up 40 jars out of a billion.
Yet, if all developed nations had not taken action by signing and taking action to address the depletion of this "trace" gas in the 1987 Montreal Protocol, by 2065, we would not have been able to go out into the sunshine. We would have become a species of mole men.
This is an example of how it is possible to actually do something about an environmental problem. One wonders if we had discovered this growing ozone hole in the age of the internet would the ignorant voices that permeate the ether have prevented us from addressing the issue.
Fifty years from now would we have been heading down into our burrows never to feel the warmth of the sun upon our faces again?

source: comments, http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/feb/05/coalitions-direct-action-clim...

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