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Reply #30 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:48am

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:20am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:54am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Perc, I have a problem with all the anti swearing bullsh1t coming up lately ...I believe it's not actually against the forum rules but just some personal mission some mods have taken upon themselves.

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I agree. I have posted here for seven years and we never had this crap before the current sheriffs rode into town. FD has a swear filter for the " nasty words" that has worked for the past seven years without a problem. Roll Eyes

You are correct & incorrect!

Yes, this site has a Spell Checker, for the " nasty words".
But No, it hasn't worked, because a select few have continuously & deliberately, "refined" the spelling &/or presentation of those words, so the filter does not pick it up, but it is still obvious what is being said and they still abuse other members.

Oh & I did mean what I said in my Feedback area Post -
"Forums, whether Political or general MUST also have Rules & Limitations or they will finally go the way of some that I have seen in the US & here in OZ, where they are either closed or slowly run down & only used by the very few and they are generally people most of us won't/don't want to communicate with."

So, if the few are allowed to continue, with swearing & general/racial abuse, then this site will go the same way and the majority of members may well prefer that this site does not go that way.

As one of the longest serving members here I do not want to see this site disappear. That said, a swear word here and there has never jeopardised the site in the past and will not in the future.
I agree racism homophobia and sexism all need to be well and truly reigned in. The point I and it seems MANY others are arguing is that swearing is a part of many if not most Australians every day life and if you think you are creating the norm here by banning people for swearing you're delusional.
So what if some people manage to navigate the F word with something that resembles it?
As for the C word FDs other forum has a swear filter that replaces that word with " fluffy bunny" which I think actually tends to calm a post down that may have been meant to be abusive.

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Reply #31 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:50am

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:30am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 11:34pm:

At least four people pointed out the stalking.

Seem Lib fanbois get an easier ride with you? That seems to be the general opinion.

I got banned for what you said you would normally ban me for but wouldn’t this time, Perc_N agreed yet. . .I got a holiday.

I give no more than what I get—this is not a kindergarten or bible study class, it is a robust political forum. I also try and contribute on some of the member run boards.

It wasn’t aggressive abuse, it was more like water torture drop drop drop, bullcrap bullcrap bullcrap. Two similar utterances by one dweeb conflated to be several people disagreeing, constantly saying I was avoiding whatever meaningless point he raised and raised and raised and raised and raised and raised and raised. . .tho I answered each one.

You know what you were suspended for George, you were told by PM and if you use that word again, see if you don't get another suspension!

George is an excellent poster and contributes some very good posts. I'm going to work with George on coming up with a new acceptable word to use as a substitute.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Site Rules & Limits Reply #32 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:52am Trolling and stalking are worse than the odd swear word.
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Reply #33 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:56am

Site Rules &

Limits

There should be a

limit

to how far to the right you can go, I am afraid that some of our conservative friends are about to fall of the end of the scale. This has become a safety issue.

More seriously I support not using words which are too naughty. The concern is that it may leave a few of our friends rather defenceless.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62395 Here Gender:	Re: Site Rules & Limits Reply #34 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:58am St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:52am: Trolling and stalking are worse than the odd swear word. Stalking is terrible however I have been guilty of grabbing more than the odd bright shiny lure cast by a troller.
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Reply #35 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:58am

skippy. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:48am:

I agree racism homophobia and sexism all need to be well and truly reigned in.

So-called 'racism' is 99% more likely to be legitimate criticism of someone's cultural traditions and practices, which includes their religion and social values ~ all of this having absolutely nothing to do with race or colour.

The deceitful term 'homophobia' is used to discredit anyone who isn't a rabid cheer-leader for anal sex between men, and who disapprove of homosexual couples being allowed to adopt children.

Sexism doesn't exist in Western society, so we can safely eliminate this as a concern here. Cool

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Reply #36 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:25pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:58am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:48am:

I agree racism homophobia and sexism all need to be well and truly reigned in.

So-called 'racism' is 99% more likely to be legitimate criticism of someone's cultural traditions and practices, which includes their religion and social values ~ all of this having absolutely nothing to do with race or colour.

The deceitful term 'homophobia' is used to discredit anyone who isn't a rabid cheer-leader for anal sex between men, and who disapprove of homosexual couples being allowed to adopt children.

Sexism doesn't exist in Western society, so we can safely eliminate this as a concern here. Cool

Hear hear Herbert.

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Reply #37 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:36pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:58am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:48am:

I agree racism homophobia and sexism all need to be well and truly reigned in.

So-called 'racism' is 99% more likely to be legitimate criticism of someone's cultural traditions and practices, which includes their religion and social values ~ all of this having absolutely nothing to do with race or colour.

The deceitful term 'homophobia' is used to discredit anyone who isn't a rabid cheer-leader for anal sex between men, and who disapprove of homosexual couples being allowed to adopt children.

Sexism doesn't exist in Western society, so we can safely eliminate this as a concern here. Cool

That is just your opinion Herbert, and it is one that many people would disagree with.
But that debate belongs to a different thread.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Site Rules & Limits Reply #38 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:39pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:25pm: Hear hear Herbert. There was no 'glass-ceiling' for Julia or Quintin Bryce. And the boss of the ACTU is a woman. And all the rest of them.
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Reply #39 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:44pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:25pm:

Hear hear Herbert.

There was no 'glass-ceiling' for Julia or Quintin Bryce. And the boss of the ACTU is a woman. And all the rest of them. Tongue

Yes - & people are accused of being homophobic if they
don't think that bum chumming another guy's backside is normal.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Site Rules & Limits Reply #40 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 2:25pm perceptions_now wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:32am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 1:37am: Politeness: for it is the only rule! Sounds like a good idea! Smile- Dial- Me, cheers!
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Reply #41 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 2:33pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:48am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:20am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:54am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Perc, I have a problem with all the anti swearing bullsh1t coming up lately ...I believe it's not actually against the forum rules but just some personal mission some mods have taken upon themselves.

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I agree. I have posted here for seven years and we never had this crap before the current sheriffs rode into town. FD has a swear filter for the " nasty words" that has worked for the past seven years without a problem. Roll Eyes

You are correct & incorrect!

Yes, this site has a Spell Checker, for the " nasty words".
But No, it hasn't worked, because a select few have continuously & deliberately, "refined" the spelling &/or presentation of those words, so the filter does not pick it up, but it is still obvious what is being said and they still abuse other members.

Oh & I did mean what I said in my Feedback area Post -
"Forums, whether Political or general MUST also have Rules & Limitations or they will finally go the way of some that I have seen in the US & here in OZ, where they are either closed or slowly run down & only used by the very few and they are generally people most of us won't/don't want to communicate with."

So, if the few are allowed to continue, with swearing & general/racial abuse, then this site will go the same way and the majority of members may well prefer that this site does not go that way.

As one of the longest serving members here I do not want to see this site disappear. That said, a swear word here and there has never jeopardised the site in the past and will not in the future.
I agree racism homophobia and sexism all need to be well and truly reigned in. The point I and it seems MANY others are arguing is that swearing is a part of many if not most Australians every day life and if you think you are creating the norm here by banning people for swearing you're delusional.
So what if some people manage to navigate the F word with something that resembles it?
As for the C word FDs other forum has a swear filter that replaces that word with " fluffy bunny" which I think actually tends to calm a post down that may have been meant to be abusive.

My default position is Politeness: for it is the only rule.

This would mean no swearing.

If the chairman-of-the-board(iggy, lol) want to allow people to talk with swearing then I could suggest only allowing that in one designated forum such as maybe 'chat'.

Obviously I'm being a bit of a square but the future of all internet forums is at stake here...., I'M BEING SERIOUS Cheesy

THAT MEANS THE FUTURE OF THE INTERWEBS IS AT STAKE... ,.. seriously Lips Sealed

- Yes, Invoke the DRAH legislation worldwide I say and mum will be so proud Cool

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Reply #42 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 3:13pm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:25am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:26am:

Coincidental that the mods suddenly decide to ttry and enforce rules that were always there just when the govt is enforcing that no swearing rule on refugees . . . .

SOB

No you're absolutely right there Hercule Poirot.

We work for the Australian Government obviously.

Free diver is the new Minister for Fisheries
Perceptions is Finance Minister
Muso is Environment

And I'm in charge of Immigration and Refugee policy..

As Andrei has suggested SOB, this has nothing to do with the the govt action on enforcing a no swearing rule on refugees!

It is about this site & it's longer term survival, with the major of members wanting a place to communicate, without abuse &/or swearing!

Btw, nice sense of humour, Andrei!

Oh gawd - grow a sense of humour

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I'm a
Moron!

- edited by some unethical admin - you think its funny? - its a slippery slope

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Reply #43 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 3:48pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:25am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:26am:

Coincidental that the mods suddenly decide to ttry and enforce rules that were always there just when the govt is enforcing that no swearing rule on refugees . . . .

SOB

No you're absolutely right there Hercule Poirot.

We work for the Australian Government obviously.

Free diver is the new Minister for Fisheries
Perceptions is Finance Minister
Muso is Environment

And I'm in charge of Immigration and Refugee policy..

As Andrei has suggested SOB, this has nothing to do with the the govt action on enforcing a no swearing rule on refugees!

It is about this site & it's longer term survival, with the major of members wanting a place to communicate, without abuse &/or swearing!

Btw, nice sense of humour, Andrei!

Oh gawd - grow a sense of humour

SOB

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Site Rules & Limits Reply #44 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:23pm I doubt some limited swearing deters people. Stalking does.
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