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Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers
Reply #30 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 6:27pm

Kat wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 6:16pm:

I think you have all missed the point here.

See, killing-off the baked-bean industry is all a part of Toenail's
'Direct Action' plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

We all know that baked beans, when digested, release large quantities
of methane gas, which is what causes those thunderous 'bean farts'.

But methane also contributes to AGW, so getting rid of it is a great
initiative by Toenail, and one which should be loudly and vociferously
lauded.

And as an added benefit, the land which once held the bean farms
can now be dug up to provide a quick profit-fix for Gina & Co. Or
flogged-off to the Chinese in another classic 'sell the golden goose'
scenario.

Everybody wins (well, everybody but us average Aussies).

</sarcasm>

or maybe he could pull up trees from elsewhere and replant them on the farms and call it a 'direct action' success!

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Reply #31 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 6:34pm

Regrettably Glee you are correct on both counts. Tony Abbott 'pork barrelled' before the election in regard to Cadbury's future there in order to secure seats in Tasmania. Manly Warringah League's club 10 million, you don't have to be a genius do you? Where does he live again?

I'm not 'for' this approach, I'm dead against it.

It is my personal belief that the Taxpayer should not prop up businesses that are not Australian. I make exemptions for wholly owned Australian businesses that might survive with a loan.

e.g. Australian Farmers often need help to get them through drought ravaged years...that type of scenario, by all means help out.

You see I'm for Australia and not a political party in particular.

At the moment I think the Liberals are our only way out, Labor was a full on disaster.

They had their chance twice and they blew it twice.

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Reply #32 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 7:02pm

glee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 2:29pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 2:24pm:

Coca Cola Amatil own SPC, it is an American Company worth billions and billions of dollars.

Why then are they asking the Australian Government to put in 25 million tyo 'save' SPC.

If the answer is as simple as spending 25 million to make SPC a going concern again, then why doesn't Coca Cola write a cheque? They most probably have more money than our gross domestic product.

We were conned for years and years with GMH, poured in hundreds of millions and look at GMH pulling out now that the tap has been turned off. Nice to see that Tony Abbott is going down that track for us. He must, he has to, make a stand against this Multi National con job for our dollars.

Yes it is going to hurt but Tony Abbott has to make us competitive. SPC is already an American subsidiary.

Than heavens Rudd, Gillard etc have been kicked out. They would have decimated this Country with another term of office.

I'll ask you the same questions True Blue does not seem to want to answer:

Why give Cadbury $19 million? (owned by overseas interests who made a billion dollar profit last year)

Why give Manly Warringah RL club $10 million?

Listen pal...

I'm not just sitting here all day awaiting for your beck and call... I've better things to do than to spoon feed a man information with childlike mind who can't secure his own education...

Apart from my already extensive list above...

Liberals not wanting to lose ground in Manly "MATCHED" Labors 10 million dollar election promise...

Most likely because they didn't know the "real" extent of how bad the budget was at that time...

In Tasmania they were also trying to win a tight seat trying to take it off that scumbag Wilke..

SPC is a safe Liberal seat holding a 70% margin... the liberals would have to kill the first born son of every family in Shepparton to lose the seat....

So this is no better time for the Liberals to take a stand on Corporate Welfare...

See... its not rocket surgery... Cheesy

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Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers
Reply #33 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 7:11pm

red baron wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 6:34pm:

Regrettably Glee you are correct on both counts. Tony Abbott 'pork barrelled' before the election in regard to Cadbury's future there in order to secure seats in Tasmania. Manly Warringah League's club 10 million, you don't have to be a genius do you? Where does he live again?

I'm not 'for' this approach, I'm dead against it.

It is my personal belief that the Taxpayer should not prop up businesses that are not Australian. I make exemptions for wholly owned Australian businesses that might survive with a loan.

e.g. Australian Farmers often need help to get them through drought ravaged years...that type of scenario, by all means help out.

You see I'm for Australia and not a political party in particular.

At the moment I think the Liberals are our only way out, Labor was a full on disaster.

They had their chance twice and they blew it twice.

thanks for the considered answer. I also am not a sycophant to any political party, but these particular "grants" I find ludicrous. A bit of consistency from Abbott would be refreshing, cause at the moment all I can see is a party that has no definite plan and seems to be making these type of decisions based on how the wind is blowing at the time.

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Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers
Reply #34 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 7:23pm

True Blue... wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 7:02pm:

glee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 2:29pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 2:24pm:

Coca Cola Amatil own SPC, it is an American Company worth billions and billions of dollars.

Why then are they asking the Australian Government to put in 25 million tyo 'save' SPC.

If the answer is as simple as spending 25 million to make SPC a going concern again, then why doesn't Coca Cola write a cheque? They most probably have more money than our gross domestic product.

We were conned for years and years with GMH, poured in hundreds of millions and look at GMH pulling out now that the tap has been turned off. Nice to see that Tony Abbott is going down that track for us. He must, he has to, make a stand against this Multi National con job for our dollars.

Yes it is going to hurt but Tony Abbott has to make us competitive. SPC is already an American subsidiary.

Than heavens Rudd, Gillard etc have been kicked out. They would have decimated this Country with another term of office.

I'll ask you the same questions True Blue does not seem to want to answer:

Why give Cadbury $19 million? (owned by overseas interests who made a billion dollar profit last year)

Why give Manly Warringah RL club $10 million?

Listen pal...

I'm not just sitting here all day awaiting for your beck and call... I've better things to do than to spoon feed a man information with childlike mind who can't secure his own education...

Apart from my already extensive list above...

Liberals not wanting to lose ground in Manly "MATCHED" Labors 10 million dollar election promise...

I would appreciate a link to that thanks because I sure cannot find anything to back up that claim

Most likely because they didn't know the "real" extent of how bad the budget was at that time...

In Tasmania they were also trying to win a tight seat trying to take it off that scumbag Wilke..

SPC is a safe Liberal seat holding a 70% margin... the liberals would have to kill the first born son of every family in Shepparton to lose the seat....

So this is no better time for the Liberals to take a stand on Corporate Welfare...

See... its not rocket surgery... Cheesy

LOL. Would you mean rocket science by any chance Grin

So in your opinion, pork barrelling is fine? SPC can miss out because the LNP won't lose the seat either way? Not much of an argument is it!

As for my "education", I asked two questions both of which I already knew the answer. I was interested in how you differentiated the grants (SPC vs Cadbury) based on the excuse Abbott offered SPC; ie the parent company was in profit, when Cadbury is in the same boat.

And as for Manly Warringah........ just pure waste. If the local council cannot manage their own infrastructure then maybe they should ask their fans for help. It is a football club FFS

So - no need to get your knickers in a knot. I am sure you are adult enough to cope with being challenged aren't you?

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True Blue... Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3748 Gender:	Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers Reply #35 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:04pm http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/1712887/coalition-pledges-10-million-to-bro... That's one.. I think the original one I read was from the daily telegraph if memory serves me correct...
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Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers
Reply #36 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:25pm

True Blue... wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:04pm:

http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/1712887/coalition-pledges-10-million-to-bro...

That's one.. I think the original one I read was from the daily telegraph if memory serves me correct...

Thanks. Not that it makes a difference to my opinion - it is still a waste of money.

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Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers
Reply #37 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 7:07am

adelcrow wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:10am:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-01/bean-growers-fear-ruin-if-spc-ardmona-fact...

Thanks to Abbotts obsession with sending Aussie jobs overseas all of our navy bean growers will be going to the wall.

From what I heard this morning, Abbott wouldn't go to the aid of SPC in Shepperton because the unions have benefitted the workers out of jobs.

One has to wonder at the agenda of the unions. They seem to concentrate in destroying industry.

Only a couple of nights back, Brian Wilshire (the so-called conservationist) was going for Abbott for refusing to come to the rescue of these workers.

Now I understand why, once again,the unions have benefitted workers out of their jobs.

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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers Reply #38 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 10:51am adelcrow wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:10am: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers How exactly do you farm baked beans?
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Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers
Reply #39 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 11:23am

adelcrow wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:10am:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-01/bean-growers-fear-ruin-if-spc-ardmona-fact...

Thanks to Abbotts obsession with sending Aussie jobs overseas all of our navy bean growers will be going to the wall.

Not "bean" farmers but workers too well benefitted by our criminal unions.

Why the business hadn't seen the fall is remarkable.
The best the industry can do is to band together, kick out the unions and make a fresh business start.

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crocodile Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6686 Gender:	Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers Reply #40 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 12:07pm Frances wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 10:51am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:10am: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers How exactly do you farm baked beans? Maybe they means: Baked "bean farmers".
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Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers
Reply #41 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 1:46pm

olde.sault wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 7:07am:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:10am:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-01/bean-growers-fear-ruin-if-spc-ardmona-fact...

Thanks to Abbotts obsession with sending Aussie jobs overseas all of our navy bean growers will be going to the wall.

From what I heard this morning, Abbott wouldn't go to the aid of SPC in Shepperton because the unions have benefitted the workers out of jobs.

One has to wonder at the agenda of the unions. They seem to concentrate in destroying industry.

Only a couple of nights back, Brian Wilshire (the so-called conservationist) was going for Abbott for refusing to come to the rescue of these workers.

Now I understand why, once again,the unions have benefitted workers out of their jobs.

No. You don't.

And I doubt you ever have, or ever will.

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers Reply #42 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 1:56pm 9 weeks leave and 5 days off over Melbourne Cup.
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The Heartless Felon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2869 Gender:	Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers Reply #43 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 2:00pm crocodile wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 12:07pm: Frances wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 10:51am: adelcrow wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:10am: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers How exactly do you farm baked beans? Maybe they means: Baked "bean farmers". Great! Now we're baking farmers...
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Abbott kills off Baked Bean Farmers Reply #44 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 2:12pm AS Slim Pickens who in the movie Blazing Saddles walks into the post dinner campfire gathering, sniffs the air and says, "Figure you boys had about enough baked beans for one night."
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