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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #45 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 12:57pm

The only thing that the ABCC achieved was to make building sites less safe places to work - they killed people.

Abetz and anyone else stupid enough to support this politically expedient train wreck is a fool.

Each and every year the ABCC was in place seen an increase in workplace accidents, a reversal of the trend of the previous 20 years.

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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #46 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 12:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 8:56am:

LABOR needs to acknowledge there is corruption in the construction sector and get behind moves to resurrect the industry watchdog, Employment Minister Eric Abetz says.

Senator Abetz says the Australian people want the construction industry cleaned up and corruption weeded out.

But the Greens and Labor allowed the Australian Building and Corruption Commissioner (ABCC) to be dismantled and were using their numbers in the Senate to oppose government legislation to restore it, he said.

"The construction industry has had an unfortunate history of corruption, illegality, thuggery and standover tactics," the minister told AAP.

"That was all exposed by the Cole Royal Commission in a very thorough review about a decade ago."

A joint ABC and Fairfax Media investigation has found union officials are making corrupt deals to help companies linked to organised crime secure construction contracts.

Senator Abetz says the reports show corruption is still ingrained.

He said Labor had received $6 million from the Construction Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) and now needed to explain their objection to restoring the ABCC.

"Given the latest revelations by the ABC and the Fairfax media, the ALP simply simply no longer has any feathers to fly with in opposing the re-establishment of the ABCC," he said.

"The national interest should come first and that demands the re-establishment of the ABCC."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/abetz-says-labor-must-back-n...

But hold on there AP, You have stated many times that the ABC is biased and not a valid source to be quoted????? so they/you have selective bias?

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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #47 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 1:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

The only thing that the ABCC achieved was to make building sites less safe places to work - they killed people.

Abetz and anyone else stupid enough to support this politically expedient train wreck is a fool.

Each and every year the ABCC was in place seen an increase in workplace accidents, a reversal of the trend of the previous 20 years.

I smell Labor/union fear. The days of the bully boy are drawing to a close.

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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #48 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 1:02pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 12:54pm:

Situations arise from time to time - and wide-spread corruption in the building unions is one such - which require special measures.

What 'special measures?' Crime is for Coppers to handle. Relevant law already exists to deal with crime of any kind including any committed by a person who is a union member. That is precisely why we have a Police force.

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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #49 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:00pm

Cliff48 wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 12:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 8:56am:

LABOR needs to acknowledge there is corruption in the construction sector and get behind moves to resurrect the industry watchdog, Employment Minister Eric Abetz says.

Senator Abetz says the Australian people want the construction industry cleaned up and corruption weeded out.

But the Greens and Labor allowed the Australian Building and Corruption Commissioner (ABCC) to be dismantled and were using their numbers in the Senate to oppose government legislation to restore it, he said.

"The construction industry has had an unfortunate history of corruption, illegality, thuggery and standover tactics," the minister told AAP.

"That was all exposed by the Cole Royal Commission in a very thorough review about a decade ago."

A joint ABC and Fairfax Media investigation has found union officials are making corrupt deals to help companies linked to organised crime secure construction contracts.

Senator Abetz says the reports show corruption is still ingrained.

He said Labor had received $6 million from the Construction Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) and now needed to explain their objection to restoring the ABCC.

"Given the latest revelations by the ABC and the Fairfax media, the ALP simply simply no longer has any feathers to fly with in opposing the re-establishment of the ABCC," he said.

"The national interest should come first and that demands the re-establishment of the ABCC."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/abetz-says-labor-must-back-n...

But hold on there AP, You have stated many times that the ABC is biased and not a valid source to be quoted????? so they/you have selective bias?

I was thinking the same thing. They assure us that ABC is bias.............and then use it as a source to attack the ALP

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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #50 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:05pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 12:54pm:

Situations arise from time to time - and wide-spread corruption in the building unions is one such - which require special measures.

What 'special measures?' Crime is for Coppers to handle. Relevant law already exists to deal with crime of any kind including any committed by a person who is a union member. That is precisely why we have a Police force.

There has always been more corruption in building companies than in building unions.

All the ABCC does is to nullify genuine union protections in favour of the real crooks.

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Reply #51 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:05pm

And now Tony Abbott has added his weight to the argument:

"What today's revelations demonstrate is the absolute pressing need for the reestablishment of the Australian Building and Construction Commission with full power, full authority, full funding," Mr Abbott said.

"If the Labor Party is serious about tackling corruption again they will stop standing in the way of the reestablishment of a strong cop on the beat in that particular industry.

"The commission should have full authority to ensure that the law is upheld.

Full authority to ensure that the law is upheld in an industry which has been long marked by lawlessness."

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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #52 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:07pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

And now Tony Abbott has added his weight to the argument:

"What today's revelations demonstrate is the absolute pressing need for the reestablishment of the Australian Building and Construction Commission with full power, full authority, full funding," Mr Abbott said.

"If the Labor Party is serious about tackling corruption again they will stop standing in the way of the reestablishment of a strong cop on the beat in that particular industry.

"The commission should have full authority to ensure that the law is upheld.

Full authority to ensure that the law is upheld in an industry which has been long marked by lawlessness."

Another that suddenly believes the ABC - hilarious:)

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Reply #53 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:09pm What weight does Abbott have left? Lost a huge swathe of support that won’t come back. His own Party is ALREADY planning how to replace him.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Reply #54 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:11pm In your dreams George.
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Reply #55 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:13pm bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:11pm: In your dreams George. REACHTELL Libs on 47%.
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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #56 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:13pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:05pm:

And now Tony Abbott has added his weight to the argument:

"What today's revelations demonstrate is the absolute pressing need for the reestablishment of the Australian Building and Construction Commission with full power, full authority, full funding," Mr Abbott said.

"If the Labor Party is serious about tackling corruption again they will stop standing in the way of the reestablishment of a strong cop on the beat in that particular industry.

"The commission should have full authority to ensure that the law is upheld.

Full authority to ensure that the law is upheld in an industry which has been long marked by lawlessness."

Tony blind as well.......can't see the Coppers around the place?

This is a political attack on Unions, nothing else. I expect to read soon enough that Campbell Newman has declared (as he can) that Unions are 'criminal organisations' bringing Qld's VLAD Laws into direct effect.

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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #57 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:14pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

What weight does Abbott have left?

Lost a huge swathe of support that won’t come back. His own Party is ALREADY planning how to replace him.

Roflmao - replace with what? some tired old Howard hacks that are still living in the 1950's? Abbott is the best they have Sad

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59987 Here Gender:	Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC Reply #58 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:16pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:09pm: What weight does Abbott have left? Lost a huge swathe of support that won’t come back. His own Party is ALREADY planning how to replace him. It is likely that the community have already stopped listening to Abbott.
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Re: Abetz says Labor must back new ABCC
Reply #59 - Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:18pm

Cliff48 wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:14pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

What weight does Abbott have left?

Lost a huge swathe of support that won’t come back. His own Party is ALREADY planning how to replace him.

Roflmao - replace with what? some tired old Howard hacks that are still living in the 1950's? Abbott is the best they have

Some in the Liberal party moved into the 1960's a few days ago.

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