Nigel Farage - the leader of the UK Independence Party is advocating that private hand-gun ownership be made legal again.

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In Australia it's a simple matter of joining a gun club (under a member's sponsorship) ~ and then acquiring a gun and making sure you shoot at the club a certain required number of times a year.

Voila. You've got a handgun at home.

Cofgod wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 8:07am:


Since the ethnic immigrant invasion the police have had to be armed. That's a radical change since I was there in the 50's.

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Armed with what?
Your average cop in the UK still doesn't carry a firearm.

viewpoint wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 9:52am:


Here in Sydney just this week we had a story in the news about some Muslims gathered at a private house to mourn the murder of one of their friends, with a couple of these mourners then jumping out into the street to start firing handguns at somebody who had the stereo in his car turned up a little too loud.

Yes, the Usual Suspects.

This is a classic example of fire-arm prohibitions resulting in criminals being the only ones to be in possession of guns.

Meanwhile, Mr Average and his wife sit at home in the evenings and hope and pray they haven't drawn the short straw for a 'home invasion' or a 'drive-by'.

Howard banned guns. Do you really believe he doesn't have a hand gun in the house for his protection?

viewpoint wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 9:52am:


Farage's argument is that when handguns were banned in 1997 crimes involving them doubled in the next five years.

So it could be that the ban on handguns actually hasn't worked and could have actually made it worse. 

As Farage said: "If you criminalise handguns then only the criminals carry the guns."

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 4:36pm:

Defence is defence!!

Cofgod wrote on Jan 30^th, 2014 at 11:16pm:


The problem with gun-ownership is that the vast majority of would-be responsible owners are denied a gun because of the small minority of idiot hooligans who would flash them around and cause accidents ~ some of them fatal.

Incidentally, I'm sandwiched between two neighbours who lawfully both have guns in the house. If you're willing to go through certain procedures to own a gun, then it can be done, but it's a fairly lengthy process.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 31^st, 2014 at 5:23am:


As of 2007 about 5.2% of Australian adults (765,000 people) own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals, collecting, and target shooting.

In the UK (not including Northern Ireland, which has laxer gun laws and a higher proportion of its population owning guns than the UK average) in 2010 there were 164,800 people certificated to hold firearms and they owned 506,222 weapons.

There were 624,946 shotgun certificates which covered 1.5 million shotguns

Then bear in mind that Australia's population is around a third that of the UK and it shows how tiny gun ownership is in Britain.

I also think it's a culutural thing.  The British people have just never really been into gun ownership in a big way.

As a result, the United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world.  There were just 0.04 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010, compared with 0.26 for New Zealand, 0.5 for Canada, 1.3 for Australia and 3.6 for the United States.