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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #15 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:48pm

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

Oh yeh, that old vested interests chestnut Cheesy

GIVE US ALL YOUR RESOURCES FOR PEANUTS OR YOUR 'ECONOMY' GETS IT! WHAT TWO SPEED ECONOMY SO YOUR COUNTRYS FUTURE CAN'T OWN A HOME?????!

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #16 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #17 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

It is so amusing when you guys talk about differences between climate and weather and then trot out a graph invariably covering a couple of decades because that pushes your dishonest barrow of snake oil.'

You want to draw a line on these 2?....

and this one goes right to left so don't get all excited...

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #18 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:34pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

Yawn and so bloody what...Your abusive unimaginative twattery is so typical of your loonie clan.

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #19 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:42pm

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:34pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

Yawn and so bloody what...Your abusive unimaginative twattery is so typical of your loonie clan.

the truth hurts doesn't it Mr Rider!!!

keep attending those paranoid based right wing fascist church group meetings each week, and worshiping your little deranged corporatized fascist ideology, and preaching to everyone on the planet about YOUR little cosy right to pollute, abuse and live in your own putrid vile excrement of waste and greed.

This is what you stand for - and so you must lie in public in order to defend your fascist lunacy.

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #20 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:46pm

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

It is so amusing when you guys talk about differences between climate and weather and then trot out a graph invariably covering a couple of decades because that pushes your dishonest barrow of snake oil.'

You want to draw a line on these 2?....

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif

and this one goes right to left so don't get all excited...

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/2.5Myr.jpg

lol

another lunatic trying to pedal their fascist lunacy

be gone with you fascist freak clown maggot puppet

Your childhood deceptions may work on your church group congregation and blind mice freaks that attend, but are exposed as spin turds in here.

Stay for a while - I could use a laugh you demented slab of rotting skunk carcass stench

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #21 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:02pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

It is so amusing when you guys talk about differences between climate and weather and then trot out a graph invariably covering a couple of decades because that pushes your dishonest barrow of snake oil.'

You want to draw a line on these 2?....

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif

and this one goes right to left so don't get all excited...

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/2.5Myr.jpg

lol

another lunatic trying to pedal their fascist lunacy

be gone with you fascist freak clown maggot puppet

Your childhood deceptions may work on your church group congregation and blind mice freaks that attend, but are exposed as spin turds in here.

Stay for a while - I could use a laugh you demented slab of rotting skunk carcass stench

And that's all you've got....
That's all you've ever got...
How very sad you are....

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #22 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:08pm

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:02pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

It is so amusing when you guys talk about differences between climate and weather and then trot out a graph invariably covering a couple of decades because that pushes your dishonest barrow of snake oil.'

You want to draw a line on these 2?....

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif

and this one goes right to left so don't get all excited...

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/2.5Myr.jpg

lol

another lunatic trying to pedal their fascist lunacy

be gone with you fascist freak clown maggot puppet

Your childhood deceptions may work on your church group congregation and blind mice freaks that attend, but are exposed as spin turds in here.

Stay for a while - I could use a laugh you demented slab of rotting skunk carcass stench

And that's all you've got....
That's all you've ever got...
How very sad you are....

Actually there is plenty more

But I am sure that you would agree that wasting energy and intellectual rigour on a void that doesn't respond is a futile exercise

ISNT IT YOU PUTRID DERRANGED FASCIST FREAK MAGGOT CLOWN!

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #23 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:02pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

It is so amusing when you guys talk about differences between climate and weather and then trot out a graph invariably covering a couple of decades because that pushes your dishonest barrow of snake oil.'

You want to draw a line on these 2?....

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif

and this one goes right to left so don't get all excited...

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/2.5Myr.jpg

lol

another lunatic trying to pedal their fascist lunacy

be gone with you fascist freak clown maggot puppet

Your childhood deceptions may work on your church group congregation and blind mice freaks that attend, but are exposed as spin turds in here.

Stay for a while - I could use a laugh you demented slab of rotting skunk carcass stench

And that's all you've got....
That's all you've ever got...
How very sad you are....

Actually there is plenty more

But I am sure that you would agree that wasting energy and intellectual rigour on a void that doesn't respond is a futile exercise

ISNT IT YOU PUTRID DERRANGED FASCIST FREAK MAGGOT CLOWN!

Hmmm...great 'intellectual rigour' Grin

Deadset muppet.

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #24 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:49pm

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:02pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

It is so amusing when you guys talk about differences between climate and weather and then trot out a graph invariably covering a couple of decades because that pushes your dishonest barrow of snake oil.'

You want to draw a line on these 2?....

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif

and this one goes right to left so don't get all excited...

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/2.5Myr.jpg

lol

another lunatic trying to pedal their fascist lunacy

be gone with you fascist freak clown maggot puppet

Your childhood deceptions may work on your church group congregation and blind mice freaks that attend, but are exposed as spin turds in here.

Stay for a while - I could use a laugh you demented slab of rotting skunk carcass stench

And that's all you've got....
That's all you've ever got...
How very sad you are....

Actually there is plenty more

But I am sure that you would agree that wasting energy and intellectual rigour on a void that doesn't respond is a futile exercise

ISNT IT YOU PUTRID DERRANGED FASCIST FREAK MAGGOT CLOWN!

Hmmm...great 'intellectual rigour' Grin

Deadset muppet.

YOU enter this forum, embarrass yourself, emit a foul stench and totally reveal yourself as a clown freak fascist maggot cloth AND YOU BLAME ME FOR THIS?

What sort of scoundrel cad are you?

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #25 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 3:27pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 2:02pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:46pm:

namnugenot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Wow....paid government climate alarmist stooge writes dopey opinion piece to help feather his ongoing tenure and tax payer funded salary.....and we are meant to take this as some sort of knock out punch to valid skeptical arguments Grin

Wake me up when you find the warming Grin

...it seems that you've been sleeping a lot lately it seems?

Can you see the persistent cooling going on around your deranged fascist smelly existence?

Ignore the red trend line - just focus on the pre selected blue lines. they will provide re-assurance for you, YOU putrid decaying weasel carcass stench freak clown maggot

It is so amusing when you guys talk about differences between climate and weather and then trot out a graph invariably covering a couple of decades because that pushes your dishonest barrow of snake oil.'

You want to draw a line on these 2?....

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif

and this one goes right to left so don't get all excited...

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/2.5Myr.jpg

lol

another lunatic trying to pedal their fascist lunacy

be gone with you fascist freak clown maggot puppet

Your childhood deceptions may work on your church group congregation and blind mice freaks that attend, but are exposed as spin turds in here.

Stay for a while - I could use a laugh you demented slab of rotting skunk carcass stench

And that's all you've got....
That's all you've ever got...
How very sad you are....

Actually there is plenty more

But I am sure that you would agree that wasting energy and intellectual rigour on a void that doesn't respond is a futile exercise

ISNT IT YOU PUTRID DERRANGED FASCIST FREAK MAGGOT CLOWN!

Hmmm...great 'intellectual rigour' Grin

Deadset muppet.

YOU enter this forum, embarrass yourself, emit a foul stench and totally reveal yourself as a clown freak fascist maggot cloth AND YOU BLAME ME FOR THIS?

What sort of scoundrel cad are you?

Sadly, YOU are the person who is embarrassed about 'emitting fouls stenches' etc

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #26 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 5:33pm

# wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

Others will doubtless address some of the details he has raised. I start in a different place and ask a simple question. We have so far pumped two trillion tonnes of a greenhouse gas, CO₂, into our atmosphere since the industrial revolution, at a rate faster than ever before. Why would we presume that it would have no effect?

Because all that did was increase atmospheric CO2 from just under 0.03% to just under 0.04% of the atmosphere.
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So we know that climate is a complex, complicated matter and that there are multiple variables. Does that mean that we don’t use all the information we have to estimate what might be ahead? Does it mean that we do nothing about one variable over which we have some control – the emission of greenhouse gases? Does it mean that because there are uncertainties we do nothing?

Do something is not the same as do anything. Why don't we shovel some money out the window? That would be doing something and would be just as effective as a carbon tax.

Clean air is important, Clean energy, no dependence on OPEC are important. But there is no justification for the utter hysterics of many AGW activists. Technological innovation, not a speculative tax, is the answer.

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #27 - Jan 20^th, 2014 at 6:54pm

Soren wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 5:33pm:

# wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

Others will doubtless address some of the details he has raised. I start in a different place and ask a simple question. We have so far pumped two trillion tonnes of a greenhouse gas, CO₂, into our atmosphere since the industrial revolution, at a rate faster than ever before. Why would we presume that it would have no effect?

Because all that did was increase atmospheric CO2 from just under 0.03% to just under 0.04% of the atmosphere.

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So we know that climate is a complex, complicated matter and that there are multiple variables. Does that mean that we don’t use all the information we have to estimate what might be ahead? Does it mean that we do nothing about one variable over which we have some control – the emission of greenhouse gases? Does it mean that because there are uncertainties we do nothing?

Do something is not the same as do anything. Why don't we shovel some money out the window? That would be doing something and would be just as effective as a carbon tax.

Clean air is important, Clean energy, no dependence on OPEC are important. But there is no justification for the utter hysterics of many AGW activists. Technological innovation, not a speculative tax, is the answer.
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Fascistic silver tongues hate kids: we have all known this since the dawn of time!

Honest johnny will not like the history books because he was only known for one thing: never believing too much in promises or whatever his wife said Grin

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Re: Climate change: Let’s ask the right question.
Reply #29 - Jan 21^st, 2014 at 6:35pm

Soren wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 5:33pm:

# wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

Others will doubtless address some of the details he has raised. I start in a different place and ask a simple question. We have so far pumped two trillion tonnes of a greenhouse gas, CO₂, into our atmosphere since the industrial revolution, at a rate faster than ever before. Why would we presume that it would have no effect?

Because all that did was increase atmospheric CO2 from just under 0.03% to just under 0.04% of the atmosphere.

Quote:

So we know that climate is a complex, complicated matter and that there are multiple variables. Does that mean that we don’t use all the information we have to estimate what might be ahead? Does it mean that we do nothing about one variable over which we have some control – the emission of greenhouse gases? Does it mean that because there are uncertainties we do nothing?

Do something is not the same as do anything. Why don't we shovel some money out the window? That would be doing something and would be just as effective as a carbon tax.

Clean air is important, Clean energy, no dependence on OPEC are important. But there is no justification for the utter hysterics of many AGW activists. Technological innovation, not a speculative tax, is the answer.
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fine words indeed, but how do they fit in with your racist fascist view of the world?

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