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Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:05am
 
Giant Antarctic glacier beyond point of no return

Monday, 13 January 2014

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An aerial view of a crack at the Pine Island Glacier ice shelf seen in western Antarctica (Reuters: Goddard Space Flight Center)

Antarctica's Pine Island Glacier, one of the biggest single contributors to world sea-level rise, is melting irreversibly and could add as much as a centimetre to ocean levels in 20 years, say scientists.

The glacier "has started a phase of self-sustained retreat and will irreversibly continue its decline," says Gael Durand, a glaciologist with France's Grenoble Alps University.

Durand and an international team used three different models to forecast the glacier's future based on the "grounding line," which is the area under water where the ice shelf - a sea-floating extension of the continent-covering ice sheet - meets land.

This line has receded by about 10 kilometres in the past decade.

The grounding line "is probably engaged in an unstable 40 kilometre retreat," according to the study, published in the journal Nature Climate Change.

A massive river of ice, the glacier by itself is responsible for 20 per cent of total ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet today.

On average, it shed 20 billion tonnes of ice annually from 1992-2011, a loss that is likely to increase up to and above 100 billion tonnes each year, the study's authors write.

This is equivalent to 3.5 to 10 millimetres of global average sea-level rise over the next 20 years.

The global mean sea level rose by 3.2 millimetres in 2010 - itself a near-doubling from the rate of two decades earlier.

The European Space Agency said last month that the West Antarctic ice sheet was shedding ice at a much faster rate than before - currently at about 150 cubic kilometres per year.

Climate scientists are keeping a worried eye on the mighty ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica, as continued losses could threaten vulnerable coastal cities with dangerously high sea levels.

Last year, the United Nations' climate science body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projected sea levels would rise between 26 and 82 centimetres by 2100.
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Reply #1 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:18am
 
It's all Tony Abbott's fault.
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Reply #2 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:40am
 

So if it is 'beyond the point of no return' .............. it doesn't matter then ?
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Reply #3 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:42pm
 
First it hasn't melted yet so currently in the prediction category.
Second natural variability and the geological record have recorded the cyclical patterns in climate where extreme heat (more than currently) has been followed by extreme cold... and repeat...and repeat...etc
So hardly irreversible.
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Reply #4 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:18am:
It's all Tony Abbott's fault.

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Iron Man Abbott can't be wrong, now can he?
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:40am:
So if it is 'beyond the point of no return' .............. it doesn't matter then ?

Why do you say that?
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Reply #6 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:41pm
 
namnugenot wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:42pm:
First it hasn't melted yet so currently in the prediction category.
Second natural variability and the geological record have recorded the cyclical patterns in climate where extreme heat (more than currently) has been followed by extreme cold... and repeat...and repeat...etc
So hardly irreversible.

And your qualifications are ... ?
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Reply #7 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:18am:
It's all Tony Abbott's fault.


Its not Tony Abbotts fault at all.

He's just advocating a position of making it melt faster from here on in.
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Reply #8 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:18am:
It's all Tony Abbott's fault.


Absolutely!      Grin

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Reply #9 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:52pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:40am:
So if it is 'beyond the point of no return' .............. it doesn't matter then ?



Well,  ....ok then, it doesn't matter.

i.e.
Bad things are going to happen, but hey, what's new!

And the sun will crack the horizon tomorrow morning yet again, too.

Its just all too difficult.       Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:53pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:18am:
It's all Tony Abbott's fault.


Its not Tony Abbotts fault at all.



Yes it is!!!!!!!!

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Reply #11 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 6:34pm
 
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
namnugenot wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:42pm:
First it hasn't melted yet so currently in the prediction category.
Second natural variability and the geological record have recorded the cyclical patterns in climate where extreme heat (more than currently) has been followed by extreme cold... and repeat...and repeat...etc
So hardly irreversible.

And your qualifications are ... ?


Your not the only one who can read data although you don't seem to comprehend much. I'm at a loss as to what you are disputing is the ice is all gone is it? If not it's a prediction.
Do you dispute that there cycles where it has been hotter than now and much colder and this seems fairly regular from the ice core data... Do you dispute that such data exists?
I'm not an astronomer either but I predict the sun will rise in the east and set in the west once a day for the next week...   
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Reply #12 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 7:19pm
 
namnugenot wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
namnugenot wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:42pm:
First it hasn't melted yet so currently in the prediction category.
Second natural variability and the geological record have recorded the cyclical patterns in climate where extreme heat (more than currently) has been followed by extreme cold... and repeat...and repeat...etc
So hardly irreversible.

And your qualifications are ... ?


Your not the only one who can read data although you don't seem to comprehend much. I'm at a loss as to what you are disputing is the ice is all gone is it? If not it's a prediction.
Do you dispute that there cycles where it has been hotter than now and much colder and this seems fairly regular from the ice core data... Do you dispute that such data exists?
I'm not an astronomer either but I predict the sun will rise in the east and set in the west once a day for the next week...   

Anyone can express an opinion. Readers are entitled to know how credible that opinion might be. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Reply #13 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 7:44pm
 
namnugenot wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:42pm:
First it hasn't melted yet so currently in the prediction category.
Second natural variability and the geological record have recorded the cyclical patterns in climate where extreme heat (more than currently) has been followed by extreme cold... and repeat...and repeat...etc
So hardly irreversible.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE DIFFERENTIALS AND DOUBLE DIFFERENTIALS OF THIS PHENOMENA-I DO BUT YOU DON'T!!

Any graphology on this people!?
Any graphology on this available anywhere??
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Reply #14 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 7:48pm
 
Something tells me nam does not know that the rate of change of an exponential curve is itself exponential!!

Cheesy  Wink Wink oh yeh, i like this thread already: cum and get me greggy lol  Cool
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