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Street Homelessness Could Be Eliminated.
Jan 13th, 2014 at 6:17am
 
The end of homelessness

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    January 13, 2014


Street homelessness could be eliminated in Victoria within 10 years if the government spent less than $15 million a year on new homes and support, the state's peak homelessness body says.      Huh

The Council to Homeless Persons has put a plan to the government to get the 1092 people estimated to be sleeping rough in the last census off Victorian streets and into their own homes by 2024.

At a net cost of $143 million, the 10-year investment is just half the figure pledged by the Napthine government on Sunday for new tennis facilities at Melbourne Park.

''We know what the solutions are, we just need the political will to make them happen,'' council chief executive Jenny Smith said.


The call for government action follows the death of homeless man Wayne "Mousey" Perry, who was fatally stabbed under a city railway bridge on January 5.

Mousey's son Brad Anderson said it was disgraceful homeless people were still living in fear on the city's streets.      Sad

"They need to find a place for the homeless and get them off the streets or something like this could happen again.''

With Melbourne's temperatures predicted to hit 41 degrees this week, staff at a free CBD medical clinic worry those camped in city streets will fall victim to heat exposure. ''Clients say they are being chased away from air-conditioning,'' Youth Projects' Melanie Raymond said.      Sad

Under the council proposal, about $13 million would be spent each year building about 50 new properties near public transport and services. Another 50 properties used for short-term accommodation would be turned into permanent homes.

The funding would include money for support to stop people falling back into homelessness, including social workers, education and mental health practitioners.

The plan would cost $267 million but includes $124 million in savings, predominantly through reduced demand on health, justice and other government services. The council has estimated its plan could save $12,000 each year for every person who is helped off the streets.

''People who are sleeping rough are more likely to need emergency and other services as a direct result of their homelessness because they are more likely, for example, to catch pneumonia or become a victim to violence," council chief Ms Smith said.      Sad

Program participants would pay 25 per cent of their income in rent. Ms Smith said there was strong local and international evidence that permanent supportive housing programs worked.

The office of Housing Minister Wendy Lovell would not say whether the government would fund the

council's proposal. But a spokeswoman said it was working with the federal government on a plan to replace the National Partnership Agreement on Homelessness, which ends in the middle of this year.

"The Victorian Coalition government is committed to breaking the cycle of homelessness,'' she said.

The council proposal has been welcomed by Victoria's Labor opposition and is supported by front-line services, including the Salvation Army, HomeGround Services and VincentCare.

VincentCare chief executive John Blewonski said $143 million was a relatively "moderate expenditure''. He said the community needed to demand a better deal for those who were at the edge of society. "We are an affluent society and realistically we shouldn't have rough sleepers.''

Opposition housing spokesman Richard Wynne said the minister needed to do more to address homelessness. The MP said he had noticed a group of people sleeping in parklands "less than 100 metres'' from Parliament House.   Sad      

Mr Wynne said Labor would have "a comprehensive housing policy for the next election'' but could not commit to a specific dollar figure.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/the-end-of-homelessness-20140112-30orh.html#ixzz2qDVK8Z3r
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Reply #1 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 7:20am
 
It would take very little money for City Councils to build army-style accommodation on Crown Land for the local homeless.

Attached could be shower-rooms, a medical ward, a dining room, laundry, common room, etc.

Simplicity itself.

It has ALWAYS only needed to be done.

But the will simply hasn't been there.

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Reply #2 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:01am
 
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Street homelessness could be eliminated in Victoria within 10 years if the government spent less than $15 million a year on new homes and support, the state's peak homelessness body says


Now there's a good way to get yourself a cheap house.  Just go and sleep in the park for a while.

Beats working and paying off the mortgage for 30 years.... Grin
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Reply #3 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:10am
 

Street Homelessness Could Be Eliminated.

It could be, in a fair and sensible world.

But.....it's not in the interests of the powers to be to have it this way, they don't want ANYTHING to trickle down this far. The more the bottom rung gets, the less the greedy pigs get.

How dare anyone suggest that we tackle our homeless problem, how inconsiderate!
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Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:10am:
Street Homelessness Could Be Eliminated.

It could be, in a fair and sensible world.


What's fair and sensible about exterminating the homeless?

Oh...you thought there was another way to eliminate homelessness?  Dream on - have you seen some of those crazy animals?
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Reply #5 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:31am
 
... wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:11am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:10am:
Street Homelessness Could Be Eliminated.

It could be, in a fair and sensible world.


What's fair and sensible about exterminating the homeless?

Oh...you thought there was another way to eliminate homelessness?  Dream on - have you seen some of those crazy animals? 



A good society would have those crazy animals in a care facility.

If a society is judged by not how it treats its elite, but by how it treats its most vulnerable.........we would fail abysmally.
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Reply #6 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:44am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:31am:
... wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:11am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:10am:
Street Homelessness Could Be Eliminated.

It could be, in a fair and sensible world.


What's fair and sensible about exterminating the homeless?

Oh...you thought there was another way to eliminate homelessness?  Dream on - have you seen some of those crazy animals? 



A good society would have those crazy animals in a care facility.

If a society is judged by not how it treats its elite, but by how it treats its most vulnerable.........we would fail abysmally.


Have to disagree there.  The vast majority are looked after.

The rest have the same access to DSP and social / GOVT housing.




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Reply #7 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:13am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 7:20am:
It would take very little money for City Councils to build army-style accommodation on Crown Land for the local homeless.

Attached could be shower-rooms, a medical ward, a dining room, laundry, common room, etc.

Simplicity itself.

It has ALWAYS only needed to be done.

But the will simply hasn't been there.



and how long before it was overun by drunks/druggos  who'd try to save their rent money by pretending to be homeless, in place of genuine homeless?
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Reply #8 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:21am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 7:20am:
It would take very little money for City Councils to build army-style accommodation on Crown Land for the local homeless


..better still, just put them in the army.
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Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:22am
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:21am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 7:20am:
It would take very little money for City Councils to build army-style accommodation on Crown Land for the local homeless


..better still, just put them in the army. 


give them a loaded gun???? there a receipe for disaster ....
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Reply #10 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:28am
 
Who cares about the Australian homeless? We've got billions of dollars to give to asylum seekers and foreign aid, plus 6 figure salaries for "progressive" academics and public servants. Stuff the homeless!
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Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:29am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:31am:
... wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:11am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:10am:
Street Homelessness Could Be Eliminated.

It could be, in a fair and sensible world.


What's fair and sensible about exterminating the homeless?

Oh...you thought there was another way to eliminate homelessness?  Dream on - have you seen some of those crazy animals? 



A good society would have those crazy animals in a care facility.

If a society is judged by not how it treats its elite, but by how it treats its most vulnerable.........we would fail abysmally.


What criminal charge would you use to keep them there???
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Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:54am
 
What about those who choose to be homeless? There are some, not many but even so, are they not worthy of consideration?
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The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:54am:
What about those who choose to be homeless? There are some, not many but even so, are they not worthy of consideration?


no ..

if they choose to be homeless, they live with everything that entails ... if I decide to go bush, and live in a tent and hunt my food, who are you to tell me I need help?
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John Smith wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:58am:
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:54am:
What about those who choose to be homeless? There are some, not many but even so, are they not worthy of consideration?


no ..

if they choose to be homeless, they live with everything that entails ... if I decide to go bush, and live in a tent and hunt my food, who are you to tell me I need help?


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