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Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?
Reply #15 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:19pm

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 5:49pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 1:28pm:

A warming globe caused by climate change has more extreme weather. Extreme hot, cold, drought, floods.

But according to the IPCC-

'Higher (increasing) minimum temperatures; fewer cold days, frost days, and cold waves over nearly all land areas (very likely)

• Decreased cold-related human morbidity and mortality [4.7]
• Decreased risk of damage to a number of crops, and increased risk to others [4.2]
• Extended range and activity of some pest and disease vectors [4.2 and 4.3]
• Reduced heating energy demand [4.5]

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/climate-changes-2001/synthesis-syr/english/wg2-summary-policymakers.pdf

Not greater cold extremes.

Ever heard of turbulence? Such things are termed non linear as we haven't all the equations to solve all the variables!

Jet stream oscillations, like el nino and other recognised psuedo-systems, are only sort of understood!

Like economics... it gets complicated unless you're in the business of feigning and/or demanding certainty!

Business is business and we all know how to place a bet! The economic lie that ripping the kids off is productive cannot live...

SPECIFICALLY: where does it say cold snaps can't happen? Cheesy

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62328 Here Gender:	Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Reply #16 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:21pm Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Yes it does.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Reply #17 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:28pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:21pm: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Yes it does. Link...na
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Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?
Reply #18 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 7:51pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:28pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:21pm:

Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?

Yes it does.

Link...na

Link - Why don't you know anything ?

Climate change is displayed in extreme weather conditions in all directions.

Hot cold droughts floods, The expectation is for an increase in extremes - all of them including cold.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21609 Gender:	Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Reply #19 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:18pm The heading says RECORD COLD. Please provide a link of scientists predicting RECORD COLD.
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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Reply #20 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 9:58pm lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:18pm: The heading says RECORD COLD. Please provide a link of scientists predicting RECORD COLD. You will be waiting till hell freezes over for that link
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156125 Gender:	Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Reply #21 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 10:45pm lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:18pm: The heading says RECORD COLD. Please provide a link of scientists predicting RECORD COLD. Give them a chance to make one up, move the goal posts, and then get back to you.
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Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?
Reply #22 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 11:01pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 9:58pm:

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:18pm:

The heading says RECORD COLD.

Please provide a link of scientists predicting RECORD COLD.

You will be waiting till hell freezes over for that link Grin

If you have no idea about the basics this is a good start:

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-the-effects-of-climate-chang...

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62328 Here Gender:	Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Reply #23 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 11:07pm Funny that people with such strong opinions on the topic don't even have a basic understanding of the subject.
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Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?
Reply #24 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:08pm

Does that include the IPCC?

' No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies.'

http://www.ipcc.ch/meetings/session36/p36_doc3_approved_spm.pdf

But they have high confidence in the warming. If climate sensitivity to CO2 is so uncertain, how can you have high confidence in an outcome?

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Reply #25 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:29pm

lee wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

Does that include the IPCC?

' No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies.'

http://www.ipcc.ch/meetings/session36/p36_doc3_approved_spm.pdf

But they have high confidence in the warming. If climate sensitivity to CO2 is so uncertain, how can you have high confidence in an outcome?

You cant. Its purely a guess at this stage

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Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?
Reply #26 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:33pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 9:58pm:

lee wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:18pm:

The heading says RECORD COLD.

Please provide a link of scientists predicting RECORD COLD.

You will be waiting till hell freezes over for that link Grin

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-01-08/in-pictures-us-weather-when-hell-froze...

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold? Reply #27 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm Here you go, for those than can think.
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Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?
Reply #28 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:06pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

lee wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

Does that include the IPCC?

' No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies.'

http://www.ipcc.ch/meetings/session36/p36_doc3_approved_spm.pdf

But they have high confidence in the warming. If climate sensitivity to CO2 is so uncertain, how can you have high confidence in an outcome?

You cant. Its purely a guess at this stage

Aint that the truth!

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Re: Does Global Warming Theory Predict Record Cold?
Reply #29 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 7:47pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

lee wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

Does that include the IPCC?

' No best estimate for equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies.'

http://www.ipcc.ch/meetings/session36/p36_doc3_approved_spm.pdf

But they have high confidence in the warming. If climate sensitivity to CO2 is so uncertain, how can you have high confidence in an outcome?

You cant. Its purely a guess at this stage

Well, if a major satellite that was due to contribute to that data failed to reach orbit, then trying to define that particular parameter would be a guess, wouldn't it?

No data, so they don't guess. Sounds like an honest response to me. I notice that you don't provide the context.

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