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Jan 7th, 2014 at 5:56pm
 
Is this the North Pole's climate change counterstrike? An icy piece of the Arctic is drifting deep over the United States bringing it the coldest temperatures in decades to more than half the nation. The bitter-cold weather is being produced by what is called a "polar vortex", a deep low pressure system drawing down cold air direct from the Arctic.

The whirlpool of sub-zero air is sweeping over the US central and eastern states after spearing down over the Great Lakes, causing the cancellation of 14,000 flights, chaos on the roads and even frostbite. Normally, the swirling mass of frigid air orbits over the North Pole. Something has sent the system spinning southward over Canada and the United States.

When wind-chill is included, temperatures in places such as the Midwest and Plains will feel as though they are -45C, the Weather Channel asserts. Warnings are being urgently broadcast in several states that exposed skin will freeze "within in minutes". "This winter storm will be one for the record books and we want to make sure everyone stays safe and warm until it passes," Illinois Governor Pat Quinn warned his people.

And it's not only the US that is copping an Arctic ice-lashing. Britain is taking a beating, too. Waves up to 8 meters high are slamming into Britain's southwestern coast , as lashing winds and heavy rain batter parts of the UK and coastal residents braced for another round of flooding. The monster waves were recorded at Land's End, the southwestern tip of the UK.

Icy whirlpool's wide-spread chill

As a "polar vortex" usually spins in one place over the ice, the air it has trapped gets colder and colder. This air becomes so dense that, even when expelled from its Arctic chiller, it can travel a great distance without any noticeable warming. Today is expected to be the most bone-chilling day of the snap with freezing temperatures forecast for all 48 continental US states. Yes, that includes Texas and Florida. It's the coldest Arctic outbreak since the early 1990s.

One train on the route from Detroit to Chicago has already disabled for up to nine hours after its engine froze solid. One person was killed when a private jet skidded on the ice on a runway in Aspen, Colorado. US Airline officials said de-icing fluid was freezing solid inside aircraft, fuel was pumping sluggishly, and ramp workers were having difficulty loading and unloading luggage.

Britain battens down

Britain's month-long bout of harsh weather is also taking its toll. In Aberystwyth in Wales, seafront homes, businesses and student residence halls were evacuated as high tides hit the Welsh coast. The Met Office, Britain's weather forecasting body, warned of wind gusts up to 70 mph (113 kph) and exceptionally large waves along the coasts of Wales, southwest England and Northern Ireland.

At least seven people have died in a wave of stormy weather that has battered Britain since December, including a man killed when his mobility scooter fell into a river in Oxford, southern England. The Environment Agency issued three severe flood warnings Monday - meaning there is a threat to life and property - for the county of Dorset in southwestern England, as well as more than 300 less serious flood alerts.

Polar relief

The United States' "polar vortex" is currently sitting over Hudson Bay. It is not expected to start dissipating until Thursday. "It's just a dangerous cold," said National Weather Service meteorologist Butch Dye. It hasn't been this cold for almost two decades in many parts of the country. Frostbite and hypothermia can set in within minutes. "I have seen frostbite occur through clothing," said Douglas Brunette, an emergency room doctor in Minneapolis. "It's not enough just to be covered. You need clothes made for the elements. You need to repel the wind."

The forecast is extreme: -35 Celsius in North Dakota, and -26 Celsius in Minneapolis, Indianapolis and Chicago. Wind chills - what it feels like when high winds are factored into the temperature - could drop into the -45 to -51 Celsius range. In New York City, the temperature was expected to drop sharply from about 11 Celsius to about 10 -12 Celsius overnight as the arctic air moved in.

The Indianapolis mayor upgraded the city's travel emergency level to "red," making it illegal for anyone to drive except for emergencies or seeking shelter. The last time the city issued such a travel warning was 1978.

Accounts of life with the ice

Elnur Toktombetov, a Chicago taxi driver, said that an hour into his shift, his Toyota's windows were still coated with ice on the inside. Many cities came to a virtual standstill. School was called off on Monday for the state of Minnesota. Government offices and courts in several states closed. Southern states were bracing for possible record cold temperatures, too. With two freezing nights ahead, Louisiana citrus farmers could lose any fruit they cannot pick in time.

Between a heater that barely works and the drafty windows that invite the cold air inside his home, Jeffery Davis decided he'd be better off sitting in a doughnut shop for three hours Monday until it was time to go to work in downtown Chicago. So he threw on two pairs of pants, two t-shirts, "at least three jackets," two hats, a pair of gloves, the "thickest socks you'd probably ever find" and boots, and trudged to the train stop in his South Side neighborhood that took him to within a few blocks of the library where he works.
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Reply #1 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 5:57pm
 
"I never remember it ever being this cold," said Davis, 51. "I'm flabbergasted." One after another, people came into the shop, some to buy coffee, others, like Davis, to just sit and wait.

Giovannni Lucero, a 29-year-old painter, said he was prepared for the storm. To keep his pipes from freezing, he'd left the faucet running and opened the kitchen and bathroom cabinet doors to let the warm air in his house reach the pipes. "We stocked up yesterday on groceries because you never know," Lucero said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/travel/world/us-braces-for-record-deep-freeze-a...
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Wasn't last year the hottest on record, yet the US and UK are now in the grip of such ferociously cold weather that hasn't been experienced in at least two decades? Global warming - HA!  Grin
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Reply #3 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:09pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 5:58pm:
Wasn't last year the hottest on record, yet the US and UK are now in the grip of such ferociously cold weather that hasn't been experienced in at least two decades? Global warming - HA!  Grin






buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 4:51pm:
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The very fact that the northern hemisphere has suffered such COLD winters for the last decade -
but average annual temperatures are STILL breaking "record after record - year after year" on the top end of the scale
- indicates the problem of global warming and climate change is OBVIOUSLY WORSE than it first appears













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Reply #4 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:09pm
 
Yep...the scientists have been predicting these extreme weather events due to man made atmospheric pollution for over 100 yrs.
The change in weather patterns both cold and hot are all due to the warming of the planet and that includes a major driver of the climate..the oceans
A little information not spewed out by ignorant shock jocks and far right inbred nutbags would stand you in better stead when it comes to arguing scientific principles.
100 yrs of scientific research predicted exactly what is occurring
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Reply #5 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:14pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:09pm:
Yep...the scientists have been predicting these extreme weather events due to man made atmospheric pollution for over 100 yrs.
The change in weather patterns both cold and hot are all due to the warming of the planet and that includes a major driver of the climate..the oceans
A little information not spewed out by ignorant shock jocks and far right inbred nutbags would stand you in better stead when it comes to arguing scientific principles.
100 yrs of scientific research predicted exactly what is occurring
How are the sea levels going to rise when the polar caps are absolutely frozen solid? Even the Antarctic is frozen and it's summer there. When are we going to see the evidence of this so called warming?
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Reply #6 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:27pm
 
The severe cold, blizzards etc in UK and North America occur precisely because of AGW! Changes in circumpolar winds, in the jetstream etc means the Arctic air can escape southwards.

See the UK Met Office.
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Reply #7 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:31pm
 
A small increase to average temperatures does NOT mean we cannot still get extreme cold weather events. Anyone that claims otherwise is (1) showing some ignorance of statistics and (2) is confusing the concepts of climate and weather.
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Reply #8 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:49pm
 
Bam wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:31pm:
A small increase to average temperatures does NOT mean we cannot still get extreme cold weather events. Anyone that claims otherwise is (1) showing some ignorance of statistics and (2) is confusing the concepts of climate and weather.



And who gets to determine what a "long period" is?




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Reply #9 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:51pm
 
How did I know it would be you teaspoon and your beloved Tele to bring this up Wink

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All of this is all wrong in ways that have all been explained before. So just a few brief observations:

    Statements about climate trends must be based on, er, trends. Not individual events or occurrences. Weather is not climate, and anecdotes are not statistics.

    Global warming is actually expected to increase "heavy precipitation in winter storms," and for the northern hemisphere, there is evidence that these storms are already more frequent and intense, according to the draft US National Climate Assessment.

    Antarctica is a very cold place. But global warming is affecting it as predicted: Antarctica is losing ice overall, according to the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. However, sea ice is a different matter than land-based or glacial ice. Antarctic sea ice is increasing, and moreover, the reason for this may be climate change! (For more, read here.)

Finally, just one last thing. When it's winter on Earth, it's also summer on Earth...somewhere else. Thus, allow us to counter anecdotal evidence about cold weather with more anecdotal evidence: It's blazing hot in Australia, with temperatures, in some regions, set to possibly soar above 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the coming days.


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Reply #10 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 7:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Bam wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:31pm:
A small increase to average temperatures does NOT mean we cannot still get extreme cold weather events. Anyone that claims otherwise is (1) showing some ignorance of statistics and (2) is confusing the concepts of climate and weather.



And who gets to determine what a "long period" is?








And who gets to determine why the current average temperature set and co2 level is the perfect one, why isn't 500ppm co2 and another couple of degrees the perfect weather, and don't tell me its because the models said so, they aren't worth a pinch of sh#t  Roll Eyes
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Sparky wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:14pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:09pm:
Yep...the scientists have been predicting these extreme weather events due to man made atmospheric pollution for over 100 yrs.
The change in weather patterns both cold and hot are all due to the warming of the planet and that includes a major driver of the climate..the oceans
A little information not spewed out by ignorant shock jocks and far right inbred nutbags would stand you in better stead when it comes to arguing scientific principles.
100 yrs of scientific research predicted exactly what is occurring
How are the sea levels going to rise when the polar caps are absolutely frozen solid? Even the Antarctic is frozen and it's summer there. When are we going to see the evidence of this so called warming?

Yeh, lets just ignore that hypocritical fact of their predictions. If we ignore it, then its a win/win.

If the sea rises due to heat and ice melt.... they got it right.
If the sea doesnt rise due to ice melt, then vulnerable water (lol bugger me) that gives more ice extent and we predicted such an event, they got it right.

Just like cold, hot, rainy, dry, upside down, right side up, boil, freeze..... they got it right because they predict every single horse in the race.

Thats called selecting the field
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Reply #12 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 8:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Bam wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:31pm:
A small increase to average temperatures does NOT mean we cannot still get extreme cold weather events. Anyone that claims otherwise is (1) showing some ignorance of statistics and (2) is confusing the concepts of climate and weather.



And who gets to determine what a "long period" is?






Anybody except you.
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Reply #13 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 8:39pm
 
muso wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 8:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Bam wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:31pm:
A small increase to average temperatures does NOT mean we cannot still get extreme cold weather events. Anyone that claims otherwise is (1) showing some ignorance of statistics and (2) is confusing the concepts of climate and weather.



And who gets to determine what a "long period" is?






Anybody except you.



Pathetic answer.

30 years?  Is that what you think is a "long period"?

If so, why?

If not, what arbitrary number do you subscribe to?

And this time, try to answer the question honestly (although I do realise that AGW disciples prefer lies to honesty).


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Reply #14 - Jan 7th, 2014 at 9:18pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 8:13pm:
Sparky wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:14pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 7th, 2014 at 6:09pm:
Yep...the scientists have been predicting these extreme weather events due to man made atmospheric pollution for over 100 yrs.
The change in weather patterns both cold and hot are all due to the warming of the planet and that includes a major driver of the climate..the oceans
A little information not spewed out by ignorant shock jocks and far right inbred nutbags would stand you in better stead when it comes to arguing scientific principles.
100 yrs of scientific research predicted exactly what is occurring
How are the sea levels going to rise when the polar caps are absolutely frozen solid? Even the Antarctic is frozen and it's summer there. When are we going to see the evidence of this so called warming?

Yeh, lets just ignore that hypocritical fact of their predictions. If we ignore it, then its a win/win.

If the sea rises due to heat and ice melt.... they got it right.
If the sea doesnt rise due to ice melt, then vulnerable water (lol bugger me) that gives more ice extent and we predicted such an event, they got it right.

Just like cold, hot, rainy, dry, upside down, right side up, boil, freeze..... they got it right because they predict every single horse in the race.

Thats called selecting the field


You've played this game before....  Wink
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