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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156186 Gender:	Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK! Reply #60 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:26pm muso and # wiped out in a matter of minutes. My work here is done.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK! Reply #61 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:26pm The Thames is actually getting a little too close to my house for my liking now...
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Reply #62 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:26pm:

The Thames is actually getting a little too close to my house for my liking now...

Not good

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/flood-warnings-remain-place-river-64...

Meanwhile:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/red-alert-fire-health-warnings...

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21639 Gender:	Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK! Reply #63 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 8:16pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:02pm: For those who have a brain, the cold snap in US/UK explained: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017168491 Nice explanation of "wavieness".
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Reply #64 - Jan 10^th, 2014 at 9:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

muso wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

We're talking about something that is universally begrudgingly accepted by professionals planning for major projects in order to appease their shareholders.

Fixed.

Incorrect. This is confidential information, not available to shareholders.

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Reply #65 - Jan 11^th, 2014 at 1:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:26pm:

The Thames is actually getting a little too close to my house for my liking now...

Not good

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/flood-warnings-remain-place-river-64...

Meanwhile:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/red-alert-fire-health-warnings...

The set of pillars to the left are where the Thames is supposed to be....

Between the pillars believe it or not is a nice little park, which is completely out of sight now.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK! Reply #66 - Jan 11^th, 2014 at 1:01am And even more worringly - this is my street which I took last night.....
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Reply #67 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:01am

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

...greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 7:57am:

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I'm denying the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis

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In your own words, you deny "the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis". Does any body of reputable scientists agree with you?

Given that the scientists report 95 to 100% confidence that global warming is Anthropogenic, what do you think you see that they are missing? Are you pretending to be better qualified, smarter or wiser than all those scientists? What are your qualifications, greggerypeccary?

Are you saying that the vast majority of the best qualified are collaborating in some grand conspiracy? Are you saying that every body of reputable scientists is colluding with them?

These are simple questions, greggerypeccary. Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", you can give simple, honest answers.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", ...

Absolutely certain.

A fool, is certain; an ignorant fool, absolutely so, as the graffito went.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Otherwise you would have presented some by now.
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You give me too much credit. Actually, no; you're lying - again.

Do I pretend to understand the science? Haven't I consistently relied on the consensus among the best qualified?

You say that you are "Absolutely certain" that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", yet you present no rational basis for that certainty. If there's no suitable evidence, then how do you explain the consensus?

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Reply #68 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:06am

muso wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 9:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:18pm:

muso wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

We're talking about something that is universally begrudgingly accepted by professionals planning for major projects in order to appease their shareholders.

Fixed.

Incorrect. This is confidential information, not available to shareholders.

Oh dear

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Reply #69 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:08am

# wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

...greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 7:57am:

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I'm denying the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis

...
In your own words, you deny "the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis". Does any body of reputable scientists agree with you?

Given that the scientists report 95 to 100% confidence that global warming is Anthropogenic, what do you think you see that they are missing? Are you pretending to be better qualified, smarter or wiser than all those scientists? What are your qualifications, greggerypeccary?

Are you saying that the vast majority of the best qualified are collaborating in some grand conspiracy? Are you saying that every body of reputable scientists is colluding with them?

These are simple questions, greggerypeccary. Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", you can give simple, honest answers.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", ...

Absolutely certain.

A fool, is certain; an ignorant fool, absolutely so, as the graffito went.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Otherwise you would have presented some by now.
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You give me too much credit. Actually, no; you're lying - again.

Do I pretend to understand the science? Haven't I consistently relied on the consensus among the best qualified?

You say that you are "Absolutely certain" that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", yet you present no rational basis for that certainty. If there's no suitable evidence, then how do you explain the consensus?

My point proven: you've failed, once again, to present any credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.

Not hard to see what's going on here.

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Reply #70 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 10:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

# wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

...greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 7:57am:

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I'm denying the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis

...
In your own words, you deny "the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis". Does any body of reputable scientists agree with you?

Given that the scientists report 95 to 100% confidence that global warming is Anthropogenic, what do you think you see that they are missing? Are you pretending to be better qualified, smarter or wiser than all those scientists? What are your qualifications, greggerypeccary?

Are you saying that the vast majority of the best qualified are collaborating in some grand conspiracy? Are you saying that every body of reputable scientists is colluding with them?

These are simple questions, greggerypeccary. Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", you can give simple, honest answers.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", ...

Absolutely certain.

A fool, is certain; an ignorant fool, absolutely so, as the graffito went.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Otherwise you would have presented some by now.
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You give me too much credit. Actually, no; you're lying - again.

Do I pretend to understand the science? Haven't I consistently relied on the consensus among the best qualified?

You say that you are "Absolutely certain" that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", yet you present no rational basis for that certainty. If there's no suitable evidence, then how do you explain the consensus?

My point proven: you've failed, once again, to present any credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.

Which I'm no more qualified to do than you are to interpret climate science.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

Not hard to see what's going on here.

Indeed; greggerypeccary is lying again (a question or demand can be a lie, greggerypeccary, just ask your parents). Another distraction.

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Reply #71 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 10:52am

# wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 10:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

# wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 9:01am:

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

...greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 7:57am:

...
I'm denying the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis

...
In your own words, you deny "the existence of credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis". Does any body of reputable scientists agree with you?

Given that the scientists report 95 to 100% confidence that global warming is Anthropogenic, what do you think you see that they are missing? Are you pretending to be better qualified, smarter or wiser than all those scientists? What are your qualifications, greggerypeccary?

Are you saying that the vast majority of the best qualified are collaborating in some grand conspiracy? Are you saying that every body of reputable scientists is colluding with them?

These are simple questions, greggerypeccary. Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", you can give simple, honest answers.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

# wrote on Jan 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

Surely, given your certainty that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", ...

Absolutely certain.

A fool, is certain; an ignorant fool, absolutely so, as the graffito went.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Otherwise you would have presented some by now.
...

You give me too much credit. Actually, no; you're lying - again.

Do I pretend to understand the science? Haven't I consistently relied on the consensus among the best qualified?

You say that you are "Absolutely certain" that there is no "credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis", yet you present no rational basis for that certainty. If there's no suitable evidence, then how do you explain the consensus?

My point proven: you've failed, once again, to present any credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.

Which I'm no more qualified to do than you are to interpret climate science.

Finally.

There is no credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.

Took us a while, but we got there.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK! Reply #72 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 11:37am Kids should not be buggerised for stockmarket gain!
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156186 Gender:	Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK! Reply #73 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 11:53am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 11:37am: Kids should not be buggerised. for stockmarket gain! Not sure why you needed to include the last three words of that sentence
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Reply #74 - Jan 12^th, 2014 at 12:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12^th, 2014 at 10:52am:

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There is no credible, reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
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The vast majority of the best qualified say otherwise, it seems, and they're supported by every body of reputable scientists on the planet.

You see, greggerypeccary, asking the question of one who isn't qualified to answer proves nothing except your dishonesty. Your demand for 100% certainty, however, does prove that you know even less than I. Your absolute certainty gives further evidence of your ignorance.

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:14pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 1:21pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 12:59pm:

What are your qualifications, such that you can judge that they don't have the data for that level of confidence?

I'm not a gullible fool.

There's no evidence to support that assertion.

That's pretty rich coming from someone who actually believes that AGW is a scientific fact.
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When did I ever say anything of the sort?

I accept the judgement of the vast majority of the best qualified. Judgement on which no organisation of reputable scientists disagrees. Does that mean that I believe it's " a scientific fact"? That's a product of a Conservative's binary mindset.

It will probably be difficult for you to grasp, but I don't see the world in binaries (black/white; true/false; good/evil). Mine is a world of probabilities; nuance.

You're uncomfortable with the 95-100% certainty that global warming is anthropogenic. You demand 100%.

You need the binary. I'm quite comfortable with the probability. For me, 95-100% is not an unbearable level of uncertainty, as it evidently is for you
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