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Reply #165 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 5:12pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 4:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 3:36pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 3:16pm:

so Einstein's theory of general relativity cant make predictions, just tells us WHY it happens. Newton's theory tells us WHAT WILL happen.

Oh dear, you did make the same mistake twice.

It's Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. Trust me.

Newton's Law predicts the behavior of a dropped object, but it doesn't explain why it happened.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+scientific+law+and+theory

lol.

Youre a very confused individual

You seem to be superimposing your religious beliefs onto basic scientific principles and onto the scientific method itself.

Is it any wonder that you are a AGW denialist?

Tell you what

Use non-relativistic physics to design a GPS system. Get back to me on how accurate it is.

You do understand that Newtonian physics is an approximation when the dilation of space-time can be assumed to be negligible?

Nothing religious here.

The problem is, you don't understand basic scientific principles.

There's Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation, and Einstein's Theory of General Relativity.

One is a law and the other is a theory. You don't even understand the difference between the two.

Newton's Law predicts the behavior of a dropped object, and Einstein's Theory explains why it happened.

You've had your arse handed to you a plate today, and now you're getting angry because I've embarrassed you.

Well, you need to toughen up, princess.

You also need to go back to school. These may help you to better understand:

"Law of Universal Gravitation": https://suite101.com/a/newtons-laws-for-kids-gravity-a41285

"Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation": http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/circles/u6l3c.cfm

"General relativity was Einstein’s theory of gravity ...": http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/einsteins-general-relativity-theory-gravit...

" ... Einstein had succeeded in explaining the Newtonian mystery of where gravity came from!"

http://ncse.com/evolution/education/definitions-fact-theory-law-scientific-work

If you're still struggling, I suggest you ask an adult in the house to help you out.

"Law ... "

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Reply #166 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 5:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

He cant delineate between an observable verifiable fact and a theoretical hypothesis used to explain or describe that fact.

Actually, that's exactly what you can't do.

That's why you're always making a fool of yourself.

It's fun to watch though.

I have two objects of identical rest mass. One has its velocity increased to 100 m/s whilst the other increased to say 200,000,000 m/s

how would you estimate the momentum of both of these objects?

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Reply #169 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:30pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Mr Greggy struggles with the FACT that the earth has been undergoing a human induced warming period over the industrial era.

Mr Greggy struggles with is sceptical of the FACT theory that suggests the earth has been undergoing a human induced warming period over the industrial era.

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Reply #170 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:30pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Mr Greggy struggles with the FACT that the earth has been undergoing a human induced warming period over the industrial era.

Mr Greggy struggles with is sceptical of the FACT theory that suggests the earth has been undergoing a human induced warming period over the industrial era.

...so your theory is that CO2 is NOT a by product of fossil fuel combustion and that it is NOT a greenhouse gas....nice theory Mr Greggy, hope your religion does well with that little bit of supreme intellect

Did you notice something in the following table Mr Greggy? Newton's THEORY on gravity, is a NON-METRIC, NON-RELATIVISTIC GRAVITATIONAL THEORY

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Reply #171 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:59pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 5:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

He cant delineate between an observable verifiable fact and a theoretical hypothesis used to explain or describe that fact.

Actually, that's exactly what you can't do.

That's why you're always making a fool of yourself.

It's fun to watch though.

I have two objects of identical rest mass. One has its velocity increased to 100 m/s whilst the other increased to say 200,000,000 m/s

how would you estimate the momentum of both of these objects?

-- he doesn't even understand a law is a theory!! A law can be disproven once and it falls just like a theory yet has been promoted to the echelon of law for it seems to have withstood multiple tests against its validity thus earning the title, 'LAW' instead of the title 'THEORY'... Shocked

He probably doesn't even know what momentum is Wink

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK! Reply #173 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 12:33am Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 11:47pm: ...Mr Greggy is more than capable of defending himself He's unarmed i tells ya
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Reply #174 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:07am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

...so your theory is that CO2 is NOT a by product of fossil fuel combustion and that it is NOT a greenhouse gas....

Incorrect (once again - perhaps English isn't your first language).

I'm not presenting any theories.

You, on the other hand, maintain that AGW (your theory) suggests that increased CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, caused by humans, is driving climate change.

Nice little theory, however, you don't have enough credible, reliable evidence to show that that's actually what's happening.

Keep trying though.

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Reply #175 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:07am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

...so your theory is that CO2 is NOT a by product of fossil fuel combustion and that it is NOT a greenhouse gas....

Incorrect (once again - perhaps English isn't your first language).

I'm not presenting any theories.

You, on the other hand, maintain that AGW (your theory) suggests that increased CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, caused by humans, is driving climate change.

Nice little theory, however, you don't have enough credible, reliable evidence to show that that's actually what's happening.

Keep trying though.

And now the black belt has bemcome white again thru sheer hardwork!

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Reply #176 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:52am

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Giovannni Lucero, a 29-year-old painter, said he was prepared for the storm. To keep his pipes from freezing, he'd left the faucet running and opened the kitchen and bathroom cabinet doors to let the warm air in his house reach the pipes. "We stocked up yesterday on groceries because you never know," Lucero said.

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Reply #179 - Jan 19^th, 2014 at 6:34pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

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St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

ahahahahaha

“Greggy” is right re Law v Theory.

He is wrong re AGW tho.

Are you saying a law is not a theory?!!!!!!!!

Yes.

A Law—Boyle’s Law, Newton’s Law of Gravitation etc simply summarises observations and makes no attempt at explanation. A theory, a hypothesis not yet falsified by experimental results does attempt to explain observations.

Creation Science, so called, is not science, it just asssumes creationism is spelled out by the Bible and attempts to find confirmation. Phht, science looks to falsify theories to get at a truth closer to reality.

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