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Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK!
Reply #150 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 1:01pm
 
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 7:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:23pm:
muso wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 4:20pm:
It's a faith-based religion.

Why on earth would the AGW disciples be interested in peer reviewed scientific journals?



Well if your denialism is a faith-based religion, you won't listen to logical argument.



It's neither denialism nor a religion.
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Can you substantiate your assertion?
I'll take your silence as a 'no', greggerypeccary.
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Reply #151 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 8:00am
 
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Reply #152 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm
 
Mr Greggy also believes that gravity is merely a theory.

He cant delineate between an observable verifiable fact and a theoretical hypothesis used to explain or describe that fact.

There are two main theories in Science pertaining to the observational and measurable fact that objects that have mass, are attracted to one another (ie the gravitational force or gravity) - Newtons theory of gravity and Einstein's theory of General Relativity.

Mr Greggy struggles with the FACT that the earth has been undergoing a human induced warming period over the industrial era. He tosses and turns at night at the simple notion that rising CO2 levels increase the thermal retention rates of the earths atmosphere, surface and oceans. He cannot perceive that a rising global temperature will effect the earths climate going forward.

All of this is directly due to his religious devotion to his priests and temples - his cult worship, his scripture or lack of it.

A man that cannot face the truth, because it unravels his fundamentalist cultist religion in an instant.

So Mr Greggy is left with only one alternative.

And we all know what that is don't we ladies and gentlemen!!
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Reply #153 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:45pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
Mr Greggy also believes that gravity is merely a theory.




Incorrect.

You are somewhat confused.


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Reply #154 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:48pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
He cant delineate between an observable verifiable fact and a theoretical hypothesis used to explain or describe that fact.




Actually, that's exactly what you can't do.

That's why you're always making a fool of yourself.

It's fun to watch though.
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Reply #155 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:45pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
Mr Greggy also believes that gravity is merely a theory.




Incorrect.

You are somewhat confused.




Now lets see if Mr Greggy can read my OP again and respond in an honest and mature manner.

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Mr Greggy also believes that gravity is merely a theory.

He cant delineate between an observable verifiable fact and a theoretical hypothesis used to explain or describe that fact.

There are two main theories in Science pertaining to the observational and measurable fact that objects that have mass, are attracted to one another (ie the gravitational force or gravity) - Newtons theory of gravity and Einstein's theory of General Relativity.

Mr Greggy struggles with the FACT that the earth has been undergoing a human induced warming period over the industrial era. He tosses and turns at night at the simple notion that rising CO2 levels increase the thermal retention rates of the earths atmosphere, surface and oceans. He cannot perceive that a rising global temperature will effect the earths climate going forward.

All of this is directly due to his religious devotion to his priests and temples - his cult worship, his scripture or lack of it.

A man that cannot face the truth, because it unravels his fundamentalist cultist religion in an instant.

So Mr Greggy is left with only one alternative.

And we all know what that is don't we ladies and gentlemen!!





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Reply #156 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:04pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
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There are two main theories in Science pertaining to the observational and measurable fact that objects that have mass, are attracted to one another (ie the gravitational force or gravity) - Newtons theory of gravity and Einstein's theory of General Relativity.



Close, but no cigar.

What you are referring to is in fact Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  It describes what will happen.

Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, on the other hand, tells us why it happens.

So, if you want to change the subject to gravity, it is important that you understand that Newton's Law describes the attraction between two objects, while Einstein's Theory describes why the objects attract each other.  One law, and one theory.

Your failure to grasp this simple concept explains why you struggle so much when it comes to AGW.








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Reply #157 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:04pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
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There are two main theories in Science pertaining to the observational and measurable fact that objects that have mass, are attracted to one another (ie the gravitational force or gravity) - Newtons theory of gravity and Einstein's theory of General Relativity.



Close, but no cigar.

What you are referring to is in fact Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  It describes what will happen.

Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, on the other hand, tells us why it happens.

So, if you want to change the subject to gravity, it is important that you understand that Newton's Law describes the attraction between two objects, while Einstein's Theory describes why the objects attract each other.  One law, and one theory.








lol
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Reply #158 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:07pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:04pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
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There are two main theories in Science pertaining to the observational and measurable fact that objects that have mass, are attracted to one another (ie the gravitational force or gravity) - Newtons theory of gravity and Einstein's theory of General Relativity.



Close, but no cigar.

What you are referring to is in fact Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  It describes what will happen.

Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, on the other hand, tells us why it happens.

So, if you want to change the subject to gravity, it is important that you understand that Newton's Law describes the attraction between two objects, while Einstein's Theory describes why the objects attract each other.  One law, and one theory.








lol


"lol", indeed.

Your failure to grasp this simple concept (regarding gravity) explains why you struggle so much when it comes to AGW.
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Reply #159 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:07pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:04pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
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There are two main theories in Science pertaining to the observational and measurable fact that objects that have mass, are attracted to one another (ie the gravitational force or gravity) - Newtons theory of gravity and Einstein's theory of General Relativity.



Close, but no cigar.

What you are referring to is in fact Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  It describes what will happen.

Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, on the other hand, tells us why it happens.

So, if you want to change the subject to gravity, it is important that you understand that Newton's Law describes the attraction between two objects, while Einstein's Theory describes why the objects attract each other.  One law, and one theory.








lol


"lol", indeed.

Your failure to grasp this simple concept (regarding gravity) explains why you struggle so much when it comes to AGW.


lol indeed indeed

I really cant be bothered discussing issues with people like yourself anymore

We wouldn't want to see you start repeating yourself and frothing at the mouth

(so Einstein's theory of general relativity cant make predictions, just tells us WHY it happens. Newton's theory tells us WHAT WILL happen.
lol
. Wrong on both points. In fact Einstein's general theory of relativity pertains to accelerating frames of reference, of which gravity is one of many. Did you notice how Newtonian physics breaks down as speeds increase to close the speed of light? Did you notice how even Einsteins theories breaks down at the singularity point? Perhaps we need another theory to explain what happens in singularities? I hope you understand the difference now and avoid embarrassing yourself in public with your constant dissemination of political and religious lunacy. Now apologise to everyone in this room, clean up your mess, remove the stench that you dragged in with you, and resign)
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Reply #160 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:24pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:07pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:04pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 2:43pm:
M

There are two main theories in Science pertaining to the observational and measurable fact that objects that have mass, are attracted to one another (ie the gravitational force or gravity) - Newtons theory of gravity and Einstein's theory of General Relativity.



Close, but no cigar.

What you are referring to is in fact Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  It describes what will happen.

Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, on the other hand, tells us why it happens.

So, if you want to change the subject to gravity, it is important that you understand that Newton's Law describes the attraction between two objects, while Einstein's Theory describes why the objects attract each other.  One law, and one theory.








lol


"lol", indeed.

Your failure to grasp this simple concept (regarding gravity) explains why you struggle so much when it comes to AGW.


lol indeed indeed

I really cant be bothered discussing issues with people like yourself anymore




Ah yes, we all knew that was coming.

Tip For Young Players: if you want to change the subject, make sure you know what you're talking about first.

At least now you won't make the same "two theories of gravity" mistake again, and you have me to thank for that (you're welcome).

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Reply #161 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:36pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:16pm:
so Einstein's theory of general relativity cant make predictions, just tells us WHY it happens. Newton's theory tells us WHAT WILL happen.



Oh dear, you did make the same mistake twice.

It's Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  Trust me.

Newton's Law predicts the behavior of a dropped object, but it doesn't explain why it happened.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+scientific+law+and+theory

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Reply #162 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 4:02pm
 
A law is a theory promoted 'to the echelon of "law"‘.
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Reply #163 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 4:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:36pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:16pm:
so Einstein's theory of general relativity cant make predictions, just tells us WHY it happens. Newton's theory tells us WHAT WILL happen.



Oh dear, you did make the same mistake twice.

It's Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  Trust me.

Newton's Law predicts the behavior of a dropped object, but it doesn't explain why it happened.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+scientific+law+and+theory



lol.

Youre a very confused individual

You seem to be superimposing your religious beliefs onto basic scientific principles and onto the scientific method itself.

Is it any wonder that you are a AGW denialist?


Tell you what

Use non-relativistic physics to design a GPS system. Get back to me on how accurate it is.

You do understand that Newtonian physics is an approximation when the dilation of space-time can be assumed to be negligible?
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Reply #164 - Jan 18th, 2014 at 4:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:36pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 18th, 2014 at 3:16pm:
so Einstein's theory of general relativity cant make predictions, just tells us WHY it happens. Newton's theory tells us WHAT WILL happen.



Oh dear, you did make the same mistake twice.

It's Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation.  Trust me.

Newton's [b]Law predicts the behavior of a dropped object, but it doesn't explain why it happened.
[/b]
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+scientific+law+and+theory



What are the 3 Newtonian laws of motion? When do they break down?

Why would something be called a law when it breaks down?
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