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Reply #135 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:23pm
 
muso wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 5:14pm:
AGW is established theory backed up by overwhelming evidence.



They just can't explain the hiatus/pause.

'Dr. Phil Jones – BBC – 13th February 2010
[Q] B – “Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming”

[A] “Yes, but only just”.'

' Prof. Shaowu Wang et al – Advances in Climate Change Research – 2010
“…The decade of 1999-2008 is still the warmest of the last 30 years, though the global temperature increment is near zero;…” '

'Met Office Blog – Dave Britton (10:48:21) – 14 October 2012
“We agree with Mr Rose that there has been only a very small amount of warming in the 21st Century. As stated in our response, this is 0.05 degrees Celsius since 1997 equivalent to 0.03 degrees Celsius per decade.”
Source: metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october-2012'

'Dr. James Hansen – NASA GISS – 15 January 2013
“The 5-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade, which we interpret as a combination of natural variability and a slowdown in the growth rate of the net climate forcing.” '

'Dr. Hans von Storch – Spiegel – 20 June 2013
“…the increase over the last 15 years was just 0.06 degrees Celsius (0.11 degrees Fahrenheit) — a value very close to zero….If things continue as they have been, in five years, at the latest, we will need to acknowledge that something is fundamentally wrong with our climate models….” '

Definitely CAGW. All this with increasing CO2. It says a lot about "committed" CO2 from the past.

'The committed warming trend values show a rate of warming averaged over the first two decades of the 21st century of about 0.1°C per decade, due mainly to the slow response of the oceans. About twice as much warming (0.2°C per decade) would be expected if emissions are within the range of the SRES scenarios. '

http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch10s10-7.html
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Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK!
Reply #136 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:26pm
 
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
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I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
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Can you present evidence to support your claim?



Doesn't work that way. 

The onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.

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Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK!
Reply #137 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:36pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:23pm:
muso wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 5:14pm:
AGW is established theory backed up by overwhelming evidence.



They just can't explain the hiatus/pause.

'Dr. Phil Jones – BBC – 13th February 2010
[Q] B – “Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming”

[A] “Yes, but only just”.'

' Prof. Shaowu Wang et al – Advances in Climate Change Research – 2010
“…The decade of 1999-2008 is still the warmest of the last 30 years, though the global temperature increment is near zero;…” '

'Met Office Blog – Dave Britton (10:48:21) – 14 October 2012
“We agree with Mr Rose that there has been only a very small amount of warming in the 21st Century. As stated in our response, this is 0.05 degrees Celsius since 1997 equivalent to 0.03 degrees Celsius per decade.”
Source: metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october-2012'

'Dr. James Hansen – NASA GISS – 15 January 2013
“The 5-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade, which we interpret as a combination of natural variability and a slowdown in the growth rate of the net climate forcing.” '

'Dr. Hans von Storch – Spiegel – 20 June 2013
“…the increase over the last 15 years was just 0.06 degrees Celsius (0.11 degrees Fahrenheit) — a value very close to zero….If things continue as they have been, in five years, at the latest, we will need to acknowledge that something is fundamentally wrong with our climate models….” '

Definitely CAGW. All this with increasing CO2. It says a lot about "committed" CO2 from the past.

'The committed warming trend values show a rate of warming averaged over the first two decades of the 21st century of about 0.1°C per decade, due mainly to the slow response of the oceans. About twice as much warming (0.2°C per decade) would be expected if emissions are within the range of the SRES scenarios. '

http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch10s10-7.html


Most of this is taken out of context. Is there a correlation between CO2 forcing and CO2 concentration? Yes - and it's as predicted.

Is the Net Forcing as predicted? No, because of the enormous net emission of Aerosols from China.

Is this net emission of aerosols likely to reduce? Yes. China is already taking some steps to reduce that by increasing acid gas scrubbing at the source(s).
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Reply #138 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:26pm:
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
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I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
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Can you present evidence to support your claim?



Doesn't work that way. 

The onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.


AGW hypothesis.
AGW hypothesis.
AGW hypothesis.

Yawn
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Don't you understand the concept of Scientific theory?
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Reply #139 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:43pm
 
muso wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:26pm:
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
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I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
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Can you present evidence to support your claim?



Doesn't work that way. 

The onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.


AGW hypothesis.
AGW hypothesis.
AGW hypothesis.

Yawn
http://www.safetymoment.net/wp-content/uploads/crestockimages/1363605-ms.jpg

Don't you understand the concept of Scientific theory?



Yes.

If only the disciples of AGW did.


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Reply #140 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 7:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:26pm:
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
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I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
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Can you present evidence to support your claim?



Doesn't work that way. 

The onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.
I'll take that as a 'no' from greggerypeccary.
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Reply #141 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 7:50pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:23pm:
muso wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 4:20pm:
It's a faith-based religion.

Why on earth would the AGW disciples be interested in peer reviewed scientific journals?



Well if your denialism is a faith-based religion, you won't listen to logical argument.



It's neither denialism nor a religion.
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Can you substantiate your assertion?
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Reply #142 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 8:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:26pm:
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
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I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
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Can you present evidence to support your claim?



Doesn't work that way. 

The onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.


Greggy is a fascist turning little compliant heads in his imagination  Shocked
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Reply #143 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 9:25pm
 
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 7:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:26pm:
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
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I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
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Can you present evidence to support your claim?



Doesn't work that way. 

The onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.
I'll take that as a 'no' from greggerypeccary.




You can play dumb all you want (and you're doing a superb job at it, by the way), however, the onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.
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Re: Global warming is real? Tell the frozen US/UK!
Reply #144 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 10:33am
 
muso wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:36pm:
Most of this is taken out of context. 



Perhaps you could give your take on those quotes you don't consider taken out of context? I notice you used 'most'.

Or is it like the alleged out of context quote from the IPCC?
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Reply #145 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 11:41am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:41pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 3:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 4:33pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 4:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 4:20pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 4:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 4:05pm:
# wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 3:32pm:
... greggerypeccary is fond of couching acceptance of the consensus hypothesis in religious terms. It seems he has something of an obsession with things religious.



Or could it be that the Catastrophic Man-Made Global Warming Cult is nothing more than a faith-based religion?


http://www.infowars.com/images/15church_climate.jpg


Have any of the congregation published in peer reviewed scientific journals

I cant seem to find the names Gore, Winfrey, Obama etc in the climate science literature.





It's a faith-based religion.

Why on earth would the AGW disciples be interested in peer reviewed scientific journals?



...and what do the peer reviewed scientific journals conclude about AGW and climate change?




And what does the Bible conclude about God?




You know what they say about people who answer a question with another question?

Now, focus on the question.

...and what do the peer reviewed scientific journals conclude about AGW and climate change?



There's not enough credible, reliable evidence to support the hypothesis.




So you are claiming that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas, and/or it is NOT a by product of fossil fuel combustion?




No, not at all.

I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.

No matter how many times you say it, AGW is not an "undeniable scientific fact"
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So in other words you are claiming that CO2 is NOT a by product of fossil fuel combustion and/or CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas and/or a change in the earths temperature does NOT influence climate.

Interesting theory you have there Mr Greggy.

I assume that that you have enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your religious proclamation?
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Reply #146 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 11:47am
 
Kiddie fiddlers just wait until you give up protecting the kids....
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Reply #147 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 12:15pm
 
They want to sacrifice yet unborn embryos, with heat sterilisation

all in the name of their neurotic political fascist ideologies and deranged sense of immorality and ethical compass bastardry
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Reply #148 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 12:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 10:58am:
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The onus is on you.
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It's up to you to provide credible, reliable, scientific evidence.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 11:22am:
... the onus is on you to provided credible, reliable, scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:26pm:
# wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:54am:
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I'm claiming that there's not enough credible, reliable scientific evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.
...
Can you present evidence to support your claim?



Doesn't work that way. 

The onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 9:25pm:
... the onus is on you to present credible, reliable scientific evidence to support your AGW hypothesis.

Repeating an assertion that you can't substantiate; an assertion that doesn't even address the question; could be seen as spamming. You do know what happens to spammers, don't you, greggerypeccary?

Remember what I said? One day will be followed by two, then four and so-on. You've served your one-day ban. Want to try for two?

Be very careful how you react.
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Reply #149 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 12:59pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 16th, 2014 at 11:47am:
Kiddie fiddlers just wait until you give up protecting the kids....
Enough already! Last warning.
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