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The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news)
Jan 6^th, 2014 at 11:24am

Here's a NEW strategy Cory Bernardi, Longweekend, Matty, Andrei, - and all the OTHER "Christians Against Equality" could add to their arsenal

Utah man is on hunger strike to end gay marriages in his state

Trestin Meacham has already lost 25 pounds after embarking on a fast with 'no end in sight.' The man, a devout Mormon, is pledging not to eat anything until Utah stops issuing same-sex marriage licenses
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NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Friday, January 3, 2014

A Utah man is refusing to eat until his state restores a ban on same-sex marriages.

Trestin Meacham, 35, has been surviving on water and the occasional vitamin pill since Dec. 21. Although he's already lost 25 pounds, Meacham claims he won't eat until all of Utah's counties stop issuing gay marriage licenses.

"You can start a blog and you can complain on social networks until you're blue in the face and nothing will happen but actions speak louder than words and I'm taking action," Meacham told 4Utah.

One day before Meacham began his fast with "no end in sight," federal judge Robert J. Shelby ruled that Utah's ban on same-sex marriages was unconstitutional.

Officials in the conservative state have filed an emergency appeal against Shelby's decision, CNN reports, asking Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court Sonia Sotomayor to block the ruling.

In the meantime, dozens of gay and lesbian couples in the state have started tying the knot.

Meacham, as a Mormon, believes that such marriages are evidence of sin.

"I cannot stand by and do nothing while this evil takes root in my home," the man wrote on Facebook. "Some things in life are worth sacrificing one's [health]and even life if necessary."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/utah-man-vows-fast-utah-bans-gay-marria...

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Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news)
Reply #1 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:53pm

Until such time as those things not currently specified as marriage are included as marriage, there is no 'Anti Marriage Equality Lobby' here in Australia.

I prefer that we take care of our own backyard first and not be swayed by every little thing that happens overseas. I mean - fer god's sake - look at the rampant idiocy created by taking on board feminist ideas from a near-Communist half year dark country of seven million people FCS - who make Volvos!!!!!

WGAF?

'Feminists' and the ilk may like to think they are 'internationalists' and 'action persons' while sitting back over a latte` and talking the issue to death - but I prefer real action for real people - not just endless rhetoric and propaganda to persuade us that we need to give yet another handout to a whining group.

Again - my personal view on 'gay marriage' is one of absolute indifference one way or the other - and I am happy to leave it with the courts and the legislators on this occasion since it is a meaningless issue to me.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156356 Gender:	Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news) Reply #2 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 2:04pm Well, he's certainly got his priorities straight.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news) Reply #3 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 2:05pm I can't believe they allowed it in Utah of all places. Bet the constituency is overjoyed at that.
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news) Reply #4 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 2:09pm Did you see the show were John Saffron went to Salt Lake City, Utah, and tried to sell the Origin of the Species door to door? Sooooooo smacking funny…..
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Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news)
Reply #5 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 2:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Well, he's certainly got his priorities straight.

He told an interviewer he is emulating
Gandhi
, and said he is willing to sacrifice his life for the cause.

Gandhi was, after all, a well-known campaigner against human dignity, and an implacable foe of equal rights. I think. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Meacham says this is about religious freedom, not about hate, and he trots out the well-worn line that ”some of my best friends and relatives are gay.” Nevertheless, after receiving angry protests from LGBT people, he concluded:

“The homosexual movement is less tolerant than the Nazis and if [gays] had the power of the Nazis, I have no doubt they would not hesitate to march people of faith into ovens.”

( ... I've never been able to establish just who the "Homosexual Movement" is - and how one signs up ? - buzz)

I hope that his gay friends and relatives will get over Meacham’s self-inflicted death-by-starvation without too much mental anguish.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/01/05/mormon-comparing-himself...

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news) Reply #6 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 3:03pm I think Gandhi was FOR human dignity not against it. As for gays marching people into ovens, that is, as an ex and unlamented Aussie PM would say "hyperbowl".
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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90889 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news) Reply #7 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 5:01pm Gays march people into ovens? When did that start? Noe lemme alone - I'm reading up on the Indian organ swiping trade and the Indian grabbing Nepalese girls for prostitution trade.... Man - some of these guys need to be raped and burned in the streets..... not the women.... the slave traders etc...
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news) Reply #8 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 9:12pm Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 5:01pm: Gays march people into ovens? When did that start? OH, it hasn't started - YET ! "The Homosexual Movement" haven't QUITE grasped the level of power held by the NAZIS - to date
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Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news)
Reply #9 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:36pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

Until such time as those things not currently specified as marriage are included as marriage, there is no 'Anti Marriage Equality Lobby' here in Australia.

I prefer that we take care of our own backyard first and not be swayed by every little thing that happens overseas. I mean - fer god's sake - look at the rampant idiocy created by taking on board feminist ideas from a near-Communist half year dark country of seven million people FCS - who make Volvos!!!!!

WGAF?

'Feminists' and the ilk may like to think they are 'internationalists' and 'action persons' while sitting back over a latte` and talking the issue to death - but I prefer real action for real people - not just endless rhetoric and propaganda to persuade us that we need to give yet another handout to a whining group.

At a cricket match we expect to find cricket players, and spectators who are cricket fans, because it makes sense that those two groups should be there. At a political forum, like this one, it too makes sense that that there should two groups, one side vs the other in a debate over politics. There are the players and the watchers from the left and the right here. But we don't expect there to be many activists, no more than we'd expect there to be basketball players and their fans at the cricket match. Why should it be like this? Simple, the 'determinists' would argue that to be here, you need to be comfortable, and if so, you have no reason to be active.

So how about it, Grappler, are you just huff, too? I'm calling your bluff, is what I'm saying. How about some 'action' from you. I've put it to you twice before to help make some actual changes, so is this going to be strike three?

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Again - my personal view on 'gay marriage' is one of absolute indifference one way or the other - and I am happy to leave it with the courts and the legislators on this occasion since it is a meaningless issue to me.

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Reply #10 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:29pm

You mean my current burgeoning plans to start the Grappler Party to rectify the ills of Australia, my promise to march on Canberra etc with a bill of demands to be rectified (at my age and condition).. a sort of Munich Beerhall Putsch moment to draw attention to the realities of a dying country.. all means nothing?

Ask not what your country can do for you - it will just kick you in the arse and laugh at such a preposterous notion that it should do for you as you have for it.

Tell YOURSELF what you can do for your country!

What are YOU doing?

And what has this to do with whether or not there is a gay marriage anti-lobby - something that cannot exist since there is no legitimate gay marriage.

I plan neither to campaign for gay marriage or against it - it is a matter of indifference to me.

What, good sir, is the import of your imputation that I am doing nothing? I do plenty just by being here and elsewhere, and damned well on only $135 a week.

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Reply #11 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:36pm

Is anyone EXCLUDED from this 'marriage equality' drive'?
Any configurations of human coupling that are rejected by the 'marriage equality' lobby?

Or is this a case of homosexuals are sensitive only about homosexuals, not actual 'marriage equality'? (Making this yet another dishonest Newspeak swindle).

Or what?

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Reply #12 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 11:52pm

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:36pm:

Is anyone EXCLUDED from this 'marriage equality' drive'?
Any configurations of human coupling that are rejected by the 'marriage equality' lobby?

Or is this a case of homosexuals are sensitive only about homosexuals, not actual 'marriage equality'? (Making this yet another dishonest Newspeak swindle).

Or what?

Well there are only 2 configurations of human coupling that are legal under our current (Western society) laws. Heterosexual and Homosexual. What 'other' configurations could there be?

As for homosexuals being sensitive about homosexual issues....People are generally most concerned about things that affect them personally. It's only natural to worry most about what impacts on you yourself.

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Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news)
Reply #13 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 5:56am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 11:52pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:36pm:

Is anyone EXCLUDED from this 'marriage equality' drive'?
Any configurations of human coupling that are rejected by the 'marriage equality' lobby?

Or is this a case of homosexuals are sensitive only about homosexuals, not actual 'marriage equality'? (Making this yet another dishonest Newspeak swindle).

Or what?

Well there are only 2 configurations of human coupling that are legal under our current (Western society) laws. Heterosexual and Homosexual. What 'other' configurations could there be?

As for homosexuals being sensitive about homosexual issues....People are generally most concerned about things that affect them personally. It's only natural to worry most about what impacts on you yourself.

Which might explain why so many here are so worried about homosexual marriage

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: The Anti-Marriage Equality Lobby (latest news) Reply #14 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 6:13am Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:36pm: Is anyone EXCLUDED from this 'marriage equality' drive'? Let me think. Yes, you are excluded from it.
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