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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #75 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:36pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:32pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:17pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:13pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:55pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:39pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Ok,

Like I was saying.. over the past 6 months in particular our year has probably been a bit cooler than usual...

Then to be told that it’s Australia’s hottest year ever?

Say what?

So I have double checked Monthly Average temperatures through the last 6 months for MY area... 3280

December -

-1.3

Novermber -

-2.1

October -

-0.7

September -

+1.7

August -

+0.6

July -

+0.6

You know a year has 12 months right?

Also its the whole continent not just a particular area.

Your area might be lucky and as you have provide be a bit below, another 5 areas relative in size could be the reverse & be a degree or 2 warmer.

Its primary school maths
example
john eats 5 apples a day, mary 1, ian 6 & lisa 3
The average apple intake is
15 divide by 4 = 3.75 apples p/day

next year
Ian remains at 6, mary to 4 john drops to 3 & lisa remains solid at 3
Average intake = 4

Its not hard , your areas John Wink

Try comprehending what I was saying smith instead of trying to be the forum smartass...

What did you say,
You said you don't believe 2013 was the warmest year because in your little part of the country 3(Oct/Nov/Dec) of the last 6 months have had below average temperatures.

for goodness sake either express yourself clearer of give up while you only look stupid instead of retarded.

Ok, where exactly did I say that I didn't believe that 2013 was one of Australia's hottest years ?

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Ok,

Like I was saying.. over the past 6 months in particular our year has probably been a bit cooler than usual...

Then to be told that it’s Australia’s hottest year ever?

Say what?

So I have double checked Monthly Average temperatures through the last 6 months for MY area... 3280

December -
-1.3
Novermber -
-2.1

October -
-0.7
September -
+1.7
August -
+0.6
July -
+0.6

Then again if your comprehension skills are as good as your maths you probably DO think you are agreeing it was the hottest with that post Cheesy

You haven't shown me anything apart from my surprise that they said it was one of Australia's hottest year...

So show me where I said that I didn't believe this was true...

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #76 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:43pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:18pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:55pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:39pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Ok,

Like I was saying.. over the past 6 months in particular our year has probably been a bit cooler than usual...

Then to be told that it’s Australia’s hottest year ever?

Say what?

So I have double checked Monthly Average temperatures through the last 6 months for MY area... 3280

December -

-1.3

Novermber -

-2.1

October -

-0.7

September -

+1.7

August -

+0.6

July -

+0.6

You know a year has 12 months right?

Also its the whole continent not just a particular area.

Your area might be lucky and as you have provide be a bit below, another 5 areas relative in size could be the reverse & be a degree or 2 warmer.

Its primary school maths
example
john eats 5 apples a day, mary 1, ian 6 & lisa 3
The average apple intake is
15 divide by 4 = 3.75 apples p/day

next year
Ian remains at 6, mary to 4 john drops to 3 & lisa remains solid at 3
Average intake = 4

Its not hard , your areas John Wink

Try comprehending what I was saying smith instead of trying to be the forum smartass...

Dsmithy is pulling apart your misunderstanding of what temperature is: heat content and the phenomena of heat engines is what the story of climate change is all about and you by showing your misunderstanding have confirmed to everyone that your spark left the fire a long long time ago!

Have a nice day now ya hear Grin

Now see smithy...

Don't follow the ramblings of DRAH and become the forum joke and outcast Wink

Smithy will do what he wants! Slander is all you've got and I- as the whole forum knows to your utter embarrassment- use that momentum against you!

You can't touch me bro cos you can't see! Stop crying and bring it on bruthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Huh

Err have you been doing acid again?

And wasn't there a thread started recently to have you removed from the forum because you're insane?

Embarrassed

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #77 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:52pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:52pm:

I don't believe anything any more. the degree of corruption and blatant lying all mixed with a stupidly high level of hysteria has made more realise that the oft-claimed maxim 'everyone is an idiot' is rather generous.

That's a sweeping generalization.

I'd agree but from the other stand point, the degree of water muddying by those opposed to paying a little more or losing monopoly markets has been criminal. Not to mention the slander leveled at those trying to warn us of our folly.
The turning of years of study & gained intelligence into some form of a "BAD"/"ELITIST" thing is frankly laughable, then again I read a report yesterday that more than a few Americans believed the earth turned 2014 years old on Wednesday.

See generalizations & unsubstantiated thought bubbles are easy.

while generally true, none of that changes the perception that where climate predictions are concerned, we are being lied to and lied to badly. BoM lies to us repeatedly telling us things that pollies and activists want to hear but some of which is transparently folly. NASA temperature recording is predictable in advance. in 2007 they reported that the year was cooler and showed a change in the direction of warming ie cooling. a few weeks later they changed their mind and said the diametrical opposite. So who do you trust? not NASA or BoM or Flannery or pretty much anyone who preaches the catastrophe that never comes.

IM calling BoM liars. In a world where the laws of thermodynamics can be happily ignored to ply yet another fanciful warming fantasy science itself has sold its soul for ideology and the research funding trough.

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #78 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:55pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:13pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:55pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:39pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Ok,

Like I was saying.. over the past 6 months in particular our year has probably been a bit cooler than usual...

Then to be told that it’s Australia’s hottest year ever?

Say what?

So I have double checked Monthly Average temperatures through the last 6 months for MY area... 3280

December -

-1.3

Novermber -

-2.1

October -

-0.7

September -

+1.7

August -

+0.6

July -

+0.6

You know a year has 12 months right?

Also its the whole continent not just a particular area.

Your area might be lucky and as you have provide be a bit below, another 5 areas relative in size could be the reverse & be a degree or 2 warmer.

Its primary school maths
example
john eats 5 apples a day, mary 1, ian 6 & lisa 3
The average apple intake is
15 divide by 4 = 3.75 apples p/day

next year
Ian remains at 6, mary to 4 john drops to 3 & lisa remains solid at 3
Average intake = 4

Its not hard , your areas John Wink

Try comprehending what I was saying smith instead of trying to be the forum smartass...

What did you say,
You said you don't believe 2013 was the warmest year because in your little part of the country 3(Oct/Nov/Dec) of the last 6 months have had below average temperatures.

for goodness sake either express yourself clearer of give up while you only look stupid instead of retarded.

normally you'd have a point but he is simply expressing the now common 'what the...?' whenever we are told more stories of imminent catastrophe which never eventuates.

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #79 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:55pm

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:43pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:18pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:55pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:39pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Ok,

Like I was saying.. over the past 6 months in particular our year has probably been a bit cooler than usual...

Then to be told that it’s Australia’s hottest year ever?

Say what?

So I have double checked Monthly Average temperatures through the last 6 months for MY area... 3280

December -

-1.3

Novermber -

-2.1

October -

-0.7

September -

+1.7

August -

+0.6

July -

+0.6

You know a year has 12 months right?

Also its the whole continent not just a particular area.

Your area might be lucky and as you have provide be a bit below, another 5 areas relative in size could be the reverse & be a degree or 2 warmer.

Its primary school maths
example
john eats 5 apples a day, mary 1, ian 6 & lisa 3
The average apple intake is
15 divide by 4 = 3.75 apples p/day

next year
Ian remains at 6, mary to 4 john drops to 3 & lisa remains solid at 3
Average intake = 4

Its not hard , your areas John Wink

Try comprehending what I was saying smith instead of trying to be the forum smartass...

Dsmithy is pulling apart your misunderstanding of what temperature is: heat content and the phenomena of heat engines is what the story of climate change is all about and you by showing your misunderstanding have confirmed to everyone that your spark left the fire a long long time ago!

Have a nice day now ya hear Grin

Now see smithy...

Don't follow the ramblings of DRAH and become the forum joke and outcast Wink

Smithy will do what he wants! Slander is all you've got and I- as the whole forum knows to your utter embarrassment- use that momentum against you!

You can't touch me bro cos you can't see! Stop crying and bring it on bruthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Huh

Err have you been doing acid again?

And wasn't there a thread started recently to have you removed from the forum because you're insane?

Embarrassed

You can't handle my heat fella Wink

ya call that a front foot do ya Embarrassed

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #80 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:56pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:55pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:43pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:18pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:55pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:39pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Ok,

Like I was saying.. over the past 6 months in particular our year has probably been a bit cooler than usual...

Then to be told that it’s Australia’s hottest year ever?

Say what?

So I have double checked Monthly Average temperatures through the last 6 months for MY area... 3280

December -

-1.3

Novermber -

-2.1

October -

-0.7

September -

+1.7

August -

+0.6

July -

+0.6

You know a year has 12 months right?

Also its the whole continent not just a particular area.

Your area might be lucky and as you have provide be a bit below, another 5 areas relative in size could be the reverse & be a degree or 2 warmer.

Its primary school maths
example
john eats 5 apples a day, mary 1, ian 6 & lisa 3
The average apple intake is
15 divide by 4 = 3.75 apples p/day

next year
Ian remains at 6, mary to 4 john drops to 3 & lisa remains solid at 3
Average intake = 4

Its not hard , your areas John Wink

Try comprehending what I was saying smith instead of trying to be the forum smartass...

Dsmithy is pulling apart your misunderstanding of what temperature is: heat content and the phenomena of heat engines is what the story of climate change is all about and you by showing your misunderstanding have confirmed to everyone that your spark left the fire a long long time ago!

Have a nice day now ya hear Grin

Now see smithy...

Don't follow the ramblings of DRAH and become the forum joke and outcast Wink

Smithy will do what he wants! Slander is all you've got and I- as the whole forum knows to your utter embarrassment- use that momentum against you!

You can't touch me bro cos you can't see! Stop crying and bring it on bruthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Huh

Err have you been doing acid again?

And wasn't there a thread started recently to have you removed from the forum because you're insane?

Embarrassed

You can't handle my heat fella Wink

ya call that a front foot do ya Embarrassed

you should be incarcerated.

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #81 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:56pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:55pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:43pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:18pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:06pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:55pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:39pm:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:31pm:

Ok,

Like I was saying.. over the past 6 months in particular our year has probably been a bit cooler than usual...

Then to be told that it’s Australia’s hottest year ever?

Say what?

So I have double checked Monthly Average temperatures through the last 6 months for MY area... 3280

December -

-1.3

Novermber -

-2.1

October -

-0.7

September -

+1.7

August -

+0.6

July -

+0.6

You know a year has 12 months right?

Also its the whole continent not just a particular area.

Your area might be lucky and as you have provide be a bit below, another 5 areas relative in size could be the reverse & be a degree or 2 warmer.

Its primary school maths
example
john eats 5 apples a day, mary 1, ian 6 & lisa 3
The average apple intake is
15 divide by 4 = 3.75 apples p/day

next year
Ian remains at 6, mary to 4 john drops to 3 & lisa remains solid at 3
Average intake = 4

Its not hard , your areas John Wink

Try comprehending what I was saying smith instead of trying to be the forum smartass...

Dsmithy is pulling apart your misunderstanding of what temperature is: heat content and the phenomena of heat engines is what the story of climate change is all about and you by showing your misunderstanding have confirmed to everyone that your spark left the fire a long long time ago!

Have a nice day now ya hear Grin

Now see smithy...

Don't follow the ramblings of DRAH and become the forum joke and outcast Wink

Smithy will do what he wants! Slander is all you've got and I- as the whole forum knows to your utter embarrassment- use that momentum against you!

You can't touch me bro cos you can't see! Stop crying and bring it on bruthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Huh

Err have you been doing acid again?

And wasn't there a thread started recently to have you removed from the forum because you're insane?

Embarrassed

You can't handle my heat fella Wink

ya call that a front foot do ya Embarrassed

you should be incarcerated.

He'd go off like a phosphorus smoke grenade with all of that acid in his veins Grin

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #82 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:52pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:52pm:

I don't believe anything any more. the degree of corruption and blatant lying all mixed with a stupidly high level of hysteria has made more realise that the oft-claimed maxim 'everyone is an idiot' is rather generous.

That's a sweeping generalization.

I'd agree but from the other stand point, the degree of water muddying by those opposed to paying a little more or losing monopoly markets has been criminal. Not to mention the slander leveled at those trying to warn us of our folly.
The turning of years of study & gained intelligence into some form of a "BAD"/"ELITIST" thing is frankly laughable, then again I read a report yesterday that more than a few Americans believed the earth turned 2014 years old on Wednesday.

See generalizations & unsubstantiated thought bubbles are easy.

while generally true, none of that changes the perception that where climate predictions are concerned, we are being lied to and lied to badly. BoM lies to us repeatedly telling us things that pollies and activists want to hear but some of which is transparently folly. NASA temperature recording is predictable in advance. in 2007 they reported that the year was cooler and showed a change in the direction of warming ie cooling. a few weeks later they changed their mind and said the diametrical opposite. So who do you trust? not NASA or BoM or Flannery or pretty much anyone who preaches the catastrophe that never comes.

IM calling BoM liars. In a world where the laws of thermodynamics can be happily ignored to ply yet another fanciful warming fantasy science itself has sold its soul for ideology and the research funding trough.

Thermodynamics preaches disintegration! Kasparov said a more organised system will lose less energy in manoeuvre than a less organised system!

Cool

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #85 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 4:56pm:

you should be incarcerated.

I'm all over you like a rash and you hate it! Keep smiling bruthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Cool

it would be generous to describe you as a rash. you are more like a disease.

Are you seriously just going to keep giving me your a__? You have no self respect Grin

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #86 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:14pm

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 1:21pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 12:59pm:

What are your qualifications, such that you can judge that they don't have the data for that level of confidence?

I'm not a gullible fool.

There's no evidence to support that assertion.

That's pretty rich coming from someone who actually believes that AGW is a scientific fact.

However, I'll play along with your little game.

If I'm as gullible as you claim, what is it that I've been led to believe?

And please, be specific.

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #87 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:14pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 1:21pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 12:59pm:

What are your qualifications, such that you can judge that they don't have the data for that level of confidence?

I'm not a gullible fool.

There's no evidence to support that assertion.

That's pretty rich coming from someone who actually believes that AGW is a scientific fact.

However, I'll play along with your little game.

If I'm as gullible as you claim, what is it that I've been led to believe?

And please, be specific.

I'll have a go.

You've been lead to believe that the human activety of burning millions of tonnes of fossil fuels releasing millions of tonnes of CO2 into our atmosphere combinded with land clearing has absolutely no effect upon our climate.

Close?

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #88 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:31pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:14pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 1:21pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 12:59pm:

What are your qualifications, such that you can judge that they don't have the data for that level of confidence?

I'm not a gullible fool.

There's no evidence to support that assertion.

That's pretty rich coming from someone who actually believes that AGW is a scientific fact.

However, I'll play along with your little game.

If I'm as gullible as you claim, what is it that I've been led to believe?

And please, be specific.

I'll have a go.

You've been lead to believe that the human activety of burning millions of tonnes of fossil fuels releasing millions of tonnes of CO2 into our atmosphere combinded with land clearing has absolutely no effect upon our climate.

Close?

Nope.

Anyone else?

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #89 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:31pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:14pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 3:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 1:21pm:

# wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 12:59pm:

What are your qualifications, such that you can judge that they don't have the data for that level of confidence?

I'm not a gullible fool.

There's no evidence to support that assertion.

That's pretty rich coming from someone who actually believes that AGW is a scientific fact.

However, I'll play along with your little game.

If I'm as gullible as you claim, what is it that I've been led to believe?

And please, be specific.

I'll have a go.

You've been lead to believe that the human activety of burning millions of tonnes of fossil fuels releasing millions of tonnes of CO2 into our atmosphere combinded with land clearing has absolutely no effect upon our climate.

Close?

Nope.

Anyone else?

You actually think you understand scientific method and it's application Cheesy

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