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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #315 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 8:05pm

Right, the orginal source of that graph was a climate scientist in Reading, UK called Ed Hawkins. The graph was redrawn and misrepresents the original data.

http://www.climate-lab-book.ac.uk/2013/updated-comparison-of-simulations-and-obs...
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[UPDATE (17/03/13): David Rose has written an article in the Mail on Sunday which, by eye, seems to use the top left panel from the figure below, but without mention of its original source. In the article David Rose suggests that this figure proves that the forecasts are wrong. This is incorrect - the last decade is interesting and I have discussed these issues previously (as have many others) and I have even co-authored a published article about the most sensitive simulations being less likely. David also incorrectly suggests that the shaded ranges shown are 75% and 95% certainty. As labelled below, they are actually the 25-75% and 5-95% ranges, so 50% and 90% certainty respectively.]

[UPDATE (21/03/13): Mail on Sunday acknowledge that Climate Lab Book figure was used & redrawn and apologise for lack of credit in article update.]

I have already explained this in another post on this board, but I don't have the time to find it right now.

I'd suggest that you should be very careful when calling me a liar when you haven't checked out the source yourself.

# is dying to use these controls on you.

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #316 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

# wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 7:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

"The global temperature standstill shows that climate models are diverging from observations," says David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation."

The Global Warming Policy Foundation is yet another secretive denialist think tank.
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The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is a United Kingdom group opposing action to mitigate climate change.

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The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is a United Kingdom think tank founded by climate change denialist Nigel Lawson with the purpose of combating what the foundation describes as "extremely damaging and harmful policies" designed to mitigate climate change.

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Global Warming Policy Foundation donor funding levels revealed

Accounts show extent to which secretive thinktank is funded by anonymous donors rather than income from membership fees

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 7:07pm:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=The+global+temperature+standstill+shows+that+climate+models...

Link doesn't work.
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Twenty-year+hiatus+in+rising+temperatures+has+climate+scien...

Link doesn't work.
I know it would be unfamiliar to you, greggerypeccary, but you might try being honest.

The links work perfectly.

More lies from you.

No, greggerypeccary, ignorance from you.

Mine is a geosynchronous satellite service. That means very high latency. Very high latency prevents some links from working. I can't reliably search Google from my browser's search bar, for example.

In know lmgtfy.com is some sort of search engine redirection. All you need to do is perform whatever search you were trying to foist off on me and present your substantiations.

You can substantiate, can't you, greggerypeccary?

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Hottest year on record Reply #317 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:54pm Some are even saying 2013 was the hottest year in fifty million years, thats scary
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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Hottest year on record Reply #318 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:55pm gregory's problem is that he thinks Google links are the gospel truth. Any old denier can create a google link. Rather than that, he should directly link to relevant scientific jounal (not blog).
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Hottest year on record Reply #319 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:08pm Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:54pm: Some are even saying 2013 was the hottest year in fifty million years, ... You can substantiate that assertion, can't you, Innocent bystander?
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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Hottest year on record Reply #320 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:10pm Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:54pm: Some are even saying 2013 was the hottest year in fifty million years, thats scary This is deniers making up "facts", so in a little while they can disprove them.
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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #321 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:12pm

blessings ,

here is what the sun looks like right now ,

this star gives off much heat and energetic particles

on , but not limited to ,a photonic and neutrionic level

it is said ,

http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/

yet as you may observe , this sun has a massive

sunspot ,the size which can hold every planet in our

solar system within it .

the solar pole reversal is transitioning ( circa solar

maxima/minima ) as this behemoth

becomes earth facing ,

al gore wants to tax this through the rebates in

solar panels in which when you read the fineprint

when you claim the rebate you consent to government

ownership of the sun ... the rain and water was owned

by government when these clueless dupes rebated

their water tanks when the frenzy was on ..

giving consent ( majority rules ) as most of the

electorate voted for their 30 pieces of silver ...

clueless dupes and others do the duping

all this illusion remains forgiven

in love and light

namaste

- : ) =

ॐ

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ॐ May Much LOVE and CHRISTS LIGHT be upon and within us all.... namasté ▲ - : ) ╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Hottest year on record Reply #322 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:13pm # wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:08pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:54pm: Some are even saying 2013 was the hottest year in fifty million years, ... You can substantiate that assertion, can't you, Innocent bystander? https://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=%22hottest+ever%22&oq=%22...
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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #323 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:15pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:13pm:

# wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:08pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:54pm:

Some are even saying 2013 was the hottest year in fifty million years, ...

You can substantiate that assertion, can't you, Innocent bystander?

https://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=%22hottest+ever%22&oq=%22...

Are you and gregoryPeckory, the same person. Google links mean nothing. Directly link the page you mean FFS.

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #324 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:19pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

gregory's problem is that he thinks Google links are the gospel truth.

It might be more accurate to say that greggerypeccary thinks the gospel truth is whatever he says it is. The Gospel according to greggerypeccary has a certain ring to it, don't you agree?

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

Any old denier can create a google link.

Rather than that, he should directly link to relevant scientific jounal (not blog).

I reckon greggerypeccary deliberately conceals his sources. Every time he reveals one, it turns out to be disreputable. Of course, some of them, greggerypeccary fabricates.

A lot like longweekend58, come to think of it: # wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

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Be kind to longweekend58; he evidently isn't well. Most of us regard him as a pathological liar but, judging by the history of his posts, the concept of truth is a mystery to longweekend58. If truth is an unfamiliar concept, can one truly lie?

Truth, of course, is reality. If longweekend58 can't comprehend truth, then he's divorced from reality. Loss of contact with reality is characteristic of psychosis.

I reckon, if longweekend58's IQ was a couple of quartiles higher, he might be a sociopath. Be thankful for small mercies.

Though I see less reason to be kind to greggerypeccary.

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Re: Hottest year on record
Reply #325 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:23pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:13pm:

# wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:08pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:54pm:

Some are even saying 2013 was the hottest year in fifty million years, ...

You can substantiate that assertion, can't you, Innocent bystander?

https://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=%22hottest+ever%22&oq=%22...

I'll take that as a 'no'.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 156270 Gender:	Re: Hottest year on record Reply #326 - Jan 6^th, 2014 at 1:42pm Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 6^th, 2014 at 12:55pm: gregory's problem is that he thinks Google links are the gospel truth. Incorrect. One more lie from the Climate Church. You guys trying to set a record?
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