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Reply #241 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:53am

Oh yes indeed #. Thanks for highlighting this disgustingly deceitful exchange between greggerypeccary with the LittlePecca syndrome and Bam (and the forum is full of these cheap tricks of his). Lets see it again in close up because it's so typical

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 8:43am:

Define "many", and then explain how you came to that conclusion.

Bam wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

Why?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 8:43am:

Just as I thought.

The Climate Church is slowly crumbling.

Another fraud exposed.

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What a cheap trickster this guy is. As you rightly said #

"The fraud here is greggerypeccary. Poor sod; people are growing wise to his lies".... "The irrelevant question is calculated to distract you and waste your time. It's a form of lie ...More and more, the true nature of greggerypeccary is revealed. Soulless thug, liar; all of the above and more". [/quote]

and

"He might not be the least honest of those who post in this forum, but greggerypeccary is certainly in the running. In view of the competition, that's quite an achievement. His lies are typically sins of omission, like the evasion above, but he lies at least as consistently as the likes of longweekend58. Like longweekend58, when challenged, greggerypeccary will try to intimidate his opponents into silence. Soulless liar and thug pretty much sums up greggerypeccary"

Well yes I think we have all come to realise that about greggerypeccary with the LittlePecca syndrome. He's an utter disgrace with no self respect. Like I say he reminds me of what Eisenhower said about Senator Joseph McCarthy; "I wouldn't sleep in the same gutter with the Guy".

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Reply #242 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:54am

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

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Reply #243 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:49am:

"Global Warming theory has failed all tests, so alarmists return to the ‘97% consensus’ hoax"

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

Having lost the debate arising from the title of this topic, greggerypeccary tries to introduce one that he thinks he can fight on.

Of course, that tactic is a form of lie. It seems greggerypeccary can't help himself.

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Reply #244 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:03am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

Rubbish!!!! The more experts coming to the same conclusion the more likely it is to be true. Its called science

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Reply #245 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:03am

Be careful. Pretty soon he's going to post a clip of someone laughing, which usually means he has no idea how to respond but tries to snatch victory from defeat by playing the ridicule card. You watch he can't help himself he's going to post that clip. The little man keeps a huge file of them on his desktop ready to fire away (its his substitute for rational debate).

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Reply #246 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:05am

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

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Reply #247 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:06am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

Rubbish!!!! The more experts coming to the same conclusion the more likely it is to be true. Its called science

“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..”

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Reply #248 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:12am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

Rubbish!!!! The more experts coming to the same conclusion the more likely it is to be true. Its called science

He's trolling.

Poor liar can't even reveal the sources of what he presents as quotes. Either he made them up or they're not credible.

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Reply #249 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:13am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

Rubbish!!!! The more experts coming to the same conclusion the more likely it is to be true. Its called science

"Science does not respect consensus. There was once widespread agreement about phlogiston (a nonexistent element said to be a crucial part of combustion), eugenics, the impossibility of continental drift, the idea that genes were made of protein (not DNA) and stomach ulcers were caused by stress, and so forth—all of which proved false. Science, Richard Feyman once said, is “the belief in the ignorance of experts.” So, yes, it is the evidence that persuades me whether a theory is right or wrong, and no, I could not care less what the “consensus” says. –Matt Ridley"

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Reply #250 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:22am

Setanta wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 6:39am:

When people quote infowars/prisonplanet, they've pretty much demolished their credibility. Quite often they're the same people that think wikipedia is shonky, even though it has references to it's information. Go figure...

how many news releases do you need to see before you actually do SEE

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/editorials/stuck-on-a-ship-of-cold-fools...

Stuck on a ship of (cold) fools

YOU have to feel a touch of sympathy for the global warming scientists, journalists and other hangers-on aboard the Russian ship stuck in impenetrable ice in Antarctica, the mission they so confidently embarked on to establish solid evidence of melting ice caps resulting from climate change embarrassingly abandoned because the ice is, in fact, so impossibly thick.

The aim of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition, led by Chris Turney of the University of NSW, was to prove the East Antarctic ice sheet is melting. Its website spoke alarmingly of "an increasing body of evidence" showing "melting and collapse from ocean warming". Instead, rescue ships and a helicopter, all belching substantial carbon emissions, have had to be mobilised to pluck those aboard the icebreaker MV Akademik Schokalskiy from their plight, stuck in what appears to be, ironically, record amounts of ice for this time of year.

In that lies a hard lesson for those who persistently exaggerate the impact of global warming. We believe in man-made climate change and are no less concerned than others about it. But the cause of sensible policy is ill-served by exaggeration; there is a need for recognition of the science, which shows there are variations in how climate is changing and what the impact is, or will be.

Professor Turney's expedition was supposed to repeat scientific investigations made by Douglas Mawson a century ago and to compare then and now. Not unreasonably, it has been pointed out Mawson's ship was never icebound. Sea ice has been steadily increasing, despite the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's gloomy forecasts. Had the expedition found the slightest evidence to confirm its expectation of melting ice caps and thin ice, a major new scare about the plight of the planet would have followed. As they are transferred to sanctuary aboard the icebreaker Aurora Australis, Professor Turney and his fellow evacuees must accept the embarrassing failure of their mission shows how uncertain the science of climate change really is. They cannot reasonably do otherwise.

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Reply #251 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:23am

There is a difference between consensus based on the opinion of self-styled experts, or appeal to authority (320 ex- NASA Geriatrics can't be wrong) and a conclusion based on the bulk of evidence based on properly researched papers that can be verified.

The type of consensus we're talking about is the latter - evidence based consensus as opposed to "feeling in my bones" consensus.

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Reply #252 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:25am

True Blue... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:22am:

Setanta wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 6:39am:

When people quote infowars/prisonplanet, they've pretty much demolished their credibility. Quite often they're the same people that think wikipedia is shonky, even though it has references to it's information. Go figure...

how many news releases do you need to see before you actually do SEE

The Australian is just as bad. It used to be a serious newspaper.

The more obvious it becomes that AGW is a obvious threat, the more shrill the denialists become.

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Reply #253 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:29am

muso wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:25am:

True Blue... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:22am:

Setanta wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 6:39am:

When people quote infowars/prisonplanet, they've pretty much demolished their credibility. Quite often they're the same people that think wikipedia is shonky, even though it has references to it's information. Go figure...

how many news releases do you need to see before you actually do SEE

The Australian is just as bad. It used to be a serious newspaper.

if I get the Captain of the dam ship and drive him to your door to explain just what they were doing out there you still wouldn't believe him...

you Disciples of the Climate Church are all the same... slap you in the face with the facts and you still don't accept them..

here's yet another link that you will undoubtedly deny is true Roll Eyes

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/12/30/stuck-in-our-own-experiment-leader-tra...

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Reply #254 - Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:31am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:13am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 10:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

“Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics.”

Rubbish!!!! The more experts coming to the same conclusion the more likely it is to be true. Its called science

"Science does not respect consensus. There was once widespread agreement about phlogiston (a nonexistent element said to be a crucial part of combustion), eugenics, the impossibility of continental drift, the idea that genes were made of protein (not DNA) and stomach ulcers were caused by stress, and so forth—all of which proved false. Science, Richard Feyman once said, is “the belief in the ignorance of experts.” So, yes, it is the evidence that persuades me whether a theory is right or wrong, and no, I could not care less what the “consensus” says. –Matt Ridley"

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Matt Ridley aka Viscount Ridley is a science writer and AGW denier on the Academic Advisory Council of the denialist Warming Policy Foundation.

Looks like he denies the significance of the majority because the majority don't agree with him.

I was right about your reasons for concealing your sources, wasn't I? Your behaviour is a form of lying, isn't it? Can't help yourself, can you?

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